Merry Christmas from Donald Trump

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"We are not criminals." They tried to cross because the administration wouldn't let them enter and apply for asylum, as is always done. Courts will block this latest move and Trump will throw another hissy fit. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/s...tering-n939891

Honest question. Most of the people coming into the country take minimum wage jobs and live at the poverty level. They don’t pay any taxes, and soon become eligible for handouts and entitlements. At what point do you need to draw the line? They contribute in that they do low paying jobs that many people don’t want to do. But short of that are nothing but a drain to the economy.

If the number of people crossing illegally and taking those jobs decreased considerably, companies would need to pay more for those menial jobs. The problem isn’t that no one wants those jobs. It’s that they don’t want to do those jobs for that pay. Create a demand for workers and the pay will need to increase. The only way it makes sense to let people in is if they are going to contribute. Meaning. Pay taxes no matter how much or little they make. Everyone needs some skin in the game. Even then, driving down the wages, pay no taxes and getting healthcare for free. That is a bargain. For them. Both for everyone else that is footing the bill. And we aren’t all Bill Gates.

The safety issue is an entirely different animal and argument for a different day.

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Honest question. Most of the people coming into the country take minimum wage jobs and live at the poverty level. They don’t pay any taxes, and soon become eligible for handouts and entitlements. At what point do you need to draw the line? They contribute in that they do low paying jobs that many people don’t want to do. But short of that are nothing but a drain to the economy.

If the number of people crossing illegally and taking those jobs decreased considerably, companies would need to pay more for those menial jobs. The problem isn’t that no one wants those jobs. It’s that they don’t want to do those jobs for that pay. Create a demand for workers and the pay will need to increase. The only way it makes sense to let people in is if they are going to contribute. Meaning. Pay taxes no matter how much or little they make. Everyone needs some skin in the game. Even then, driving down the wages, pay no taxes and getting healthcare for free. That is a bargain. For them. Both for everyone else that is footing the bill. And we aren’t all Bill Gates.

The safety issue is an entirely different animal and argument for a different day.

If you watched 60 Minutes tonight, you saw some pretty harsh reality of the Trump view on managing immigration. This child separation thing was just disgusting and tonight we learned the government ran a secret pilot of this program some 5 months before they implemented it publically. There are still kids out there not reunited with their parents. The government actually attempted to deport a 3 year old and kept him from his parents for 73 days. The family was actually applying for asylum during all that.

As for these low wage workers....sure you can raise the wages and try to get citizens to work instead. How much more are you prepared to pay for a hotel room? How much more are you prepared to pay for your fruits and vegetables? How much for dinner at your local restaurant? Are you prepared to drop your landscaping service and do it all yourself? How much more will it cost to build a house or an apartment building or an office complex going forward?

You may not like paying for some of these subsidies. I don't. And I firmly believe that these programs rules should be strictly followed and violators tossed out of them when found. But I'm not so sure we are truly prepared to live in a country that will see some significant increases in the cost of living as all these low wage earners disappear from our labor market.

What would be the cost on our society if we had no illegal labor? Do the savings on one side balance against the increased costs on the other?

After all, isn't that the same logic our President used to justify ignoring the killing of a Washington Post journalist by the Saudis?

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The incoming Mexican government disputes White House claims that an agreement was reached to hold asylum seekers in Mexico. Why do they always lie about things that are so easily disprovedn?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...mexico-n939711

Trump just made them an offer they can’t refuse
Either deal or he will close down the border and mess with the economy
Mexico let them in- we don’t have to

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If you watched 60 Minutes tonight, you saw some pretty harsh reality of the Trump view on managing immigration. This child separation thing was just disgusting and tonight we learned the government ran a secret pilot of this program some 5 months before they implemented it publically. There are still kids out there not reunited with their parents. The government actually attempted to deport a 3 year old and kept him from his parents for 73 days. The family was actually applying for asylum during all that.

As for these low wage workers....sure you can raise the wages and try to get citizens to work instead. How much more are you prepared to pay for a hotel room? How much more are you prepared to pay for your fruits and vegetables? How much for dinner at your local restaurant? Are you prepared to drop your landscaping service and do it all yourself? How much more will it cost to build a house or an apartment building or an office complex going forward?

You may not like paying for some of these subsidies. I don't. And I firmly believe that these programs rules should be strictly followed and violators tossed out of them when found. But I'm not so sure we are truly prepared to live in a country that will see some significant increases in the cost of living as all these low wage earners disappear from our labor market.

What would be the cost on our society if we had no illegal labor? Do the savings on one side balance against the increased costs on the other?

After all, isn't that the same logic our President used to justify ignoring the killing of a Washington Post journalist by the Saudis?

Watching 60 minutes I knew some liberal would post someth8ng. I thought they would wait until Monday though. Congrats.

They knew the consequences of illegal immigration and brought thier family. They have to live with the consequences. It is on them, not us.

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If you watched 60 Minutes tonight, you saw some pretty harsh reality of the Trump view on managing immigration. This child separation thing was just disgusting and tonight we learned the government ran a secret pilot of this program some 5 months before they implemented it publically. There are still kids out there not reunited with their parents. The government actually attempted to deport a 3 year old and kept him from his parents for 73 days. The family was actually applying for asylum during all that.

As for these low wage workers....sure you can raise the wages and try to get citizens to work instead. How much more are you prepared to pay for a hotel room? How much more are you prepared to pay for your fruits and vegetables? How much for dinner at your local restaurant? Are you prepared to drop your landscaping service and do it all yourself? How much more will it cost to build a house or an apartment building or an office complex going forward?

You may not like paying for some of these subsidies. I don't. And I firmly believe that these programs rules should be strictly followed and violators tossed out of them when found. But I'm not so sure we are truly prepared to live in a country that will see some significant increases in the cost of living as all these low wage earners disappear from our labor market.

What would be the cost on our society if we had no illegal labor? Do the savings on one side balance against the increased costs on the other?

After all, isn't that the same logic our President used to justify ignoring the killing of a Washington Post journalist by the Saudis?

What did obama do to the dreamers? Sold them a dream like he did the American people. Hope and change. Has a nice ring to it, but rang hollow for 8 years. He had his chance. Dems had theirs too. They didn’t want to deal with trump.

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https://thehill.com/opinion/immigrat...imply-too-high

http://fairus.org/issue/legal-immigr...-united-states
Pick one.
Facts are facts clown boy.
92 percent take snap upon arrival, 5 years later, 70 percent still do. Funny, my immigrant grandfather never had 5 years of snap and some benefits for life.

Wow, so we spend 1.8b. What a waste. Why would we spend that type of money and get such a minimal return. 70 percent still sucking off the teet 5 years later. I would rather that go to fight opioid addiction or homelessness in the us. Stop bringing in people from sheet hole countries. I would much rather let in day laborers from Central America then these Somalians. Work much harder and less likely to be a terrorist. Bringing in more people who can’t support themselves is not the answer.

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Sorry, new rules. Stay in Mexico and apply. I wouldnt drink the water if I was you.

If Mexico agrees to that. They're now saying they didn't agree, and why would they? They get nothing out of it. Meanwhile the US is (intentionally?) processing less than 100 applications a day. There's been a huge backlog of court cases. If they want to clear the border, send 150 processors down, deny them all. Put more immigration judges in and have them deny applications also. That clears the system up quickly, looks like you're pretending to do something and sends the message that it's basically hopeless. They can't organize their ways out of a paper bag. Watch the way 60 Minutes segment on they handled the child separation mess.

As for troops at the border: his "authorizing" deadly force is illegal. Congress has to approve it. Mattis, Kelly and Nielsen are totally against it. Who is for it? Steven Miller.

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Watching 60 minutes I knew some liberal would post someth8ng. I thought they would wait until Monday though. Congrats.

They knew the consequences of illegal immigration and brought thier family. They have to live with the consequences. It is on them, not us.

Trump needs to shut down 60 minutes. Fake news.

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Wow, so we spend 1.8b. What a waste. Why would we spend that type of money and get such a minimal return. 70 percent still sucking off the teet 5 years later. I would rather that go to fight opioid addiction or homelessness in the us. Stop bringing in people from sheet hole countries. I would much rather let in day laborers from Central America then these Somalians. Work much harder and less likely to be a terrorist. Bringing in more people who can’t support themselves is not the answer.

Canada, which has taken in far more refugees than we have the last few years, has a much strict support program. They have to be off the teat in less than two years. But Canada does a better job with support programs like language classes, helping them find jobs, and free healthcare for all certainly helps.

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you wont have to
keep them out and no troops on the border BTW it doesnt cost 2 bil to have troops camp out for a few weeks
you pay them anyway and they arent using up ordinance

It was $ 220 Million just to move them there... don't be lazy ... do the math

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Watching 60 minutes I knew some liberal would post someth8ng. I thought they would wait until Monday though. Congrats.

They knew the consequences of illegal immigration and brought thier family. They have to live with the consequences. It is on them, not us.

Seeking asylum is NOT illegal. The one family they highlighted passed the initial hurdle for approval.

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My next step is to call on all Militia Americans out in the west and southern states.
We will take our country back..... MAGA.

Having untrained yahoos at the border is the last thing we need. It's a recipe for disaster. They'll probably shoot our own border agents and military Let the professionals do what they're trained to do.

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Sorry, new rules. Stay in Mexico and apply. I wouldnt drink the water if I was you.

... and if I was Mexico I would not pay for the Wall ... isn't that what the Liar-in-Chief was promoting 2 years ago?
Question: Why you not holding him accountable for lying?
Answer: It does not fit in with your bigotry and xenophobia

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Seeking asylum is NOT illegal. The one family they highlighted passed the initial hurdle for approval.

I’m talking about the ones who are illegal.

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If you watched 60 Minutes tonight, you saw some pretty harsh reality of the Trump view on managing immigration. This child separation thing was just disgusting and tonight we learned the government ran a secret pilot of this program some 5 months before they implemented it publically. There are still kids out there not reunited with their parents. The government actually attempted to deport a 3 year old and kept him from his parents for 73 days. The family was actually applying for asylum during all that.

As for these low wage workers....sure you can raise the wages and try to get citizens to work instead. How much more are you prepared to pay for a hotel room? How much more are you prepared to pay for your fruits and vegetables? How much for dinner at your local restaurant? Are you prepared to drop your landscaping service and do it all yourself? How much more will it cost to build a house or an apartment building or an office complex going forward?

You may not like paying for some of these subsidies. I don't. And I firmly believe that these programs rules should be strictly followed and violators tossed out of them when found. But I'm not so sure we are truly prepared to live in a country that will see some significant increases in the cost of living as all these low wage earners disappear from our labor market.

What would be the cost on our society if we had no illegal labor? Do the savings on one side balance against the increased costs on the other?

After all, isn't that the same logic our President used to justify ignoring the killing of a Washington Post journalist by the Saudis?

The cold hard reality is we need low wage unskilled workers. A simple solution is to create an easier system for those types of workers to come here LEGALLY for temporary stints of say 2-5 years. They have to apply in their home countries, be vetted and prove they have a job here. Once here they have to report in, pay taxes stay employed and stay out of legal trouble. If they don't, they're gone. Once their term is up they go back home and reapply if they want. If they do a few successive stints and want to apply for residency then they can do so. They've shown they can follow the law. Trump wants to only have skilled workers - a noble goal but use that for permanent applications. Meanwhile he gets work visas for maids and cooks at Mar Largo. Even he wants cheap labor