BS is BS

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I don't get the obsession with how much BS or Oakwood or FSA costs. Nobody complains about dropping $5k-$10k to take the kids on a vacation for them to sit on a beach for a week. But spending money on having them play a sport and all of a sudden every penny matters.

BS employers/employees and or parents out hard today, dropping 7, 8 or 10k per year is peanuts they say.

If you say so.

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BS employers/employees and or parents out hard today, dropping 7, 8 or 10k per year is peanuts they say.

If you say so.

Nobody said it was peanuts. It's perspective/priority. $100/wk on dinners out = $5K/yr, that's OK. Vacations are OK. Paying for soccer... ooh its a bad club trying to steal your money.

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Nobody said it was peanuts. It's perspective/priority. $100/wk on dinners out = $5K/yr, that's OK. Vacations are OK. Paying for soccer... ooh its a bad club trying to steal your money.

Said the Father drinking the Kool Aid.

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Nobody said it was peanuts. It's perspective/priority. $100/wk on dinners out = $5K/yr, that's OK. Vacations are OK. Paying for soccer... ooh its a bad club trying to steal your money.

1) In many cases they are. They'll tell you your kids is good enough to play on the team, even though most clubs only care about the top 5 starters. Your kid will see just enough playing time for you to think they're good enough to play on the team, all under what often times is mediocre at best coaching.

2) Multiply say 5K a year for a decent team plus travel * #kids you have *# years they play. It's a big nut

3) The high price tag creates an environment where many parents expect some kind of return, almost always in the form of some kind of payout (either getting into a good school with soccer and maybe even some $).

I'm sure many will claim they have no expectations, their kids loves it, we can afford it... Around here many can afford it but for many it's a stretch and it means making choices. But face it, once your kid gets through HS they'll stop playing altogether or maybe play a few years in college if they work really hard at it. They'll learn some good life lessons along the way. You want to support your kids of course. But those other things - meals together, vacations - are things your kids will remember much more than beating so and so from blahbetiblah when they were in 8th grade.

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Nobody said it was peanuts. It's perspective/priority. $100/wk on dinners out = $5K/yr, that's OK. Vacations are OK. Paying for soccer... ooh its a bad club trying to steal your money.

I love to eat who doesn't it's mandatory and relaxing , Vacations are "Family retreats" you know that, it's about retreating as a Family. BS is not about any of those in fact it's a day job that's a liability, let's look at the facts Skippy.

So in the past 5 years 75% of the Bs boys which the club claims to have helped get recruited with gathered info from the website are either

(A)Cut after their first collegiate year.
(B)playing clean up with 0-10 minutes per game.
(C)Transferred to a school due to either above.
(D) stopped playing all together After years being on a Bs honeymoon.


ND kid rostered for 4 yrs received 60 minutes upon graduation.
ND sibling for 3 years with zero playing time now has senior loyalty minutes due.
Yale kid quit! 3 rd player in 5 yrs.
Dartmouth kid 3years has 28minutes thus far.
Providence kid cut then quit!
Sacred Heart kid quit! 3 others zero playing time.
UConn kid quit! and 4 separate players also after one year.
BC kid cut!
Elon Kid 35 minutes 2 yrs thus far and will be cut!
Providence kid cut then quit/ transferred.

And on and on it goes too much to list.
Oakwood a little better with the listed recruits Westchester way worse .

It's six figures to play no matter how much you twist it.
Bs tuition ,travels , banquets etc over 8 years 100k give and take , recruited schools giving Jack to bs players

College tuition still 50-70k per yr Skippy.

GRAND TOTAL 350,000-450,000.

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I love to eat who doesn't it's mandatory and relaxing , Vacations are "Family retreats" you know that, it's about retreating as a Family. BS is not about any of those in fact it's a day job that's a liability, let's look at the facts Skippy.

So in the past 5 years 75% of the Bs boys which the club claims to have helped get recruited with gathered info from the website are either

(A)Cut after their first collegiate year.
(B)playing clean up with 0-10 minutes per game.
(C)Transferred to a school due to either above.
(D) stopped playing all together After years being on a Bs honeymoon.


ND kid rostered for 4 yrs received 60 minutes upon graduation.
ND sibling for 3 years with zero playing time now has senior loyalty minutes due.
Yale kid quit! 3 rd player in 5 yrs.
Dartmouth kid 3years has 28minutes thus far.
Providence kid cut then quit!
Sacred Heart kid quit! 3 others zero playing time.
UConn kid quit! and 4 separate players also after one year.
BC kid cut!
Elon Kid 35 minutes 2 yrs thus far and will be cut!
Providence kid cut then quit/ transferred.

And on and on it goes too much to list.
Oakwood a little better with the listed recruits Westchester way worse .

It's six figures to play no matter how much you twist it.
Bs tuition ,travels , banquets etc over 8 years 100k give and take , recruited schools giving Jack to bs players

College tuition still 50-70k per yr Skippy.

GRAND TOTAL 350,000-450,000.

WOW. That is a lot of effort to make your point. Perhaps if you spent that much time on your homework back at school, you might be in a career where $3000 fee is a non issue.

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DJ is a POS

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WOW. That is a lot of effort to make your point. Perhaps if you spent that much time on your homework back at school, you might be in a career where $3000 fee is a non issue.

I had downtime and im now watching Bull riding after that Jets loss, so what's up Skippy is 3k suppose to be peanuts if I were a Doctor?

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WOW. That is a lot of effort to make your point. Perhaps if you spent that much time on your homework back at school, you might be in a career where $3000 fee is a non issue.

Id like to know when a $3000 fee is a non issue.

I don't care what you do for a living but paying $3000 won't make your kid play any better now you may think that and you sound pretty deep into the Ponzi.

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Id like to know when a $3000 fee is a non issue.

I don't care what you do for a living but paying $3000 won't make your kid play any better now you may think that and you sound pretty deep into the Ponzi.

$3000 is on the low end, then add all the tournament travel and often times uniforms that fall apart/have to be replaced every two years. Really it's closer to $5k. For some families that isn't an issue. For us? Yes it's an issue when you take into account other children, other activities, etc. We don't treat it lightly and try to make sure we're getting our monies worth with the right coaching. Some families jump onto the hamster wheel when their kids are young and don't know how to get off later. Sometimes I think it's good to take a step back and re-evaluate.

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I love to eat who doesn't it's mandatory and relaxing , Vacations are "Family retreats" you know that, it's about retreating as a Family. BS is not about any of those in fact it's a day job that's a liability, let's look at the facts Skippy.

So in the past 5 years 75% of the Bs boys which the club claims to have helped get recruited with gathered info from the website are either

(A)Cut after their first collegiate year.
(B)playing clean up with 0-10 minutes per game.
(C)Transferred to a school due to either above.
(D) stopped playing all together After years being on a Bs honeymoon.


ND kid rostered for 4 yrs received 60 minutes upon graduation.
ND sibling for 3 years with zero playing time now has senior loyalty minutes due.
Yale kid quit! 3 rd player in 5 yrs.
Dartmouth kid 3years has 28minutes thus far.
Providence kid cut then quit!
Sacred Heart kid quit! 3 others zero playing time.
UConn kid quit! and 4 separate players also after one year.
BC kid cut!
Elon Kid 35 minutes 2 yrs thus far and will be cut!
Providence kid cut then quit/ transferred.

And on and on it goes too much to list.
Oakwood a little better with the listed recruits Westchester way worse .

It's six figures to play no matter how much you twist it.
Bs tuition ,travels , banquets etc over 8 years 100k give and take , recruited schools giving Jack to bs players

College tuition still 50-70k per yr Skippy.

GRAND TOTAL 350,000-450,000.

MA poster has thread tracking boys commitments over time. I don't know where he finds the time but it's great stuff. BS figures are worse than average vs those threads - usually about 1/3 not playing after a year, another 1/3 playing a decent amount and may or may not make, last 1/3 getting good pt and a decent number of them play all four years. DA players definitely aren't immune. I made my kid read it over carefully so he would fully understand how important it is that you're choosing the school for the school and not just soccer. When it comes to the soccer part finding the right fit matters - over-shoot vs your ability you will probably suffer the same fate as the BS players.

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I took the time and looked into this after reading that posting and see some of the rosters of the big name soccer schools Stanford,UCLA, Fordham, Providence , Uconn , Creighton , GT , ND and VIirgina looking at the Ct kids and their playing minutes

So @ Fordham there's three ct kids kinda doing ok, @ Stanford one ct kid zero minutes with two seasons in , @ Providence All Oak kids kicking butt, @ @ GT one ct kid kicking butt another one zero minutes, @ ND two ct kids kicking butt, another zero minutes@ Virginia two kids one a Jr with slight to zero action , @ Uconn three ct kids doing well, Ct kids rumored at Creighton and UCLa but none rostered.

OP may have been long winded but you have to ask why spend 65k + a year to be a cheerleader 600 miles from home, truth to matter is that a coach will give Zilch to players they don't really need .
There's many Maddoff clients out there that beg for their kids to be rostered on these teams and will pay the full tuition just to show friends and town locals, unfortunately the stats don't lie it's in plain site.

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The number count on the rosters is just ridiculous, does a parent go watch a kid play in Cali, Nebraska or Virgina for cinco minuto! no bueno idiato, padres estupido y sus hijos.

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I took the time and looked into this after reading that posting and see some of the rosters of the big name soccer schools Stanford,UCLA, Fordham, Providence , Uconn , Creighton , GT , ND and VIirgina looking at the Ct kids and their playing minutes

So @ Fordham there's three ct kids kinda doing ok, @ Stanford one ct kid zero minutes with two seasons in , @ Providence All Oak kids kicking butt, @ @ GT one ct kid kicking butt another one zero minutes, @ ND two ct kids kicking butt, another zero minutes@ Virginia two kids one a Jr with slight to zero action , @ Uconn three ct kids doing well, Ct kids rumored at Creighton and UCLa but none rostered.

OP may have been long winded but you have to ask why spend 65k + a year to be a cheerleader 600 miles from home, truth to matter is that a coach will give Zilch to players they don't really need .
There's many Maddoff clients out there that beg for their kids to be rostered on these teams and will pay the full tuition just to show friends and town locals, unfortunately the stats don't lie it's in plain site.

The kids who are getting very little playing time were NOT recruited from the coach of the school watching their DA games believe that, I can only guess they smoked some HS kids at the college camp of the school.

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The number count on the rosters is just ridiculous, does a parent go watch a kid play in Cali, Nebraska or Virgina for cinco minuto! no bueno idiato, padres estupido y sus hijos.

Whatever Carlos said I agree.