Surf- For Profit - Finances

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I understand that Surf is for profit, but I’m appalled and surprised by the extra costs for everything. For example, $380 per player for the Empire Cup. Other clubs I’ve been at divide the fees evenly by the players attending, but Surf is charging each player $380 across the 21 teams going amounting to almost $100,000. This covers the meals but not transportation or hotel for the players. Then you have the Surf Cup where they are charging $550 per player going across all the teams. When asked Stacy Reeves says, “these are the fees. I’ve been doing this a long time.” Anyone have insight on these high fees? Or are we just set to pay a premium to play at Surf?

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-For example, $380 per player for the Empire Cup.

On top of the team cost? You sure?

[Guest]

I understand that Surf is for profit, but I’m appalled and surprised by the extra costs for everything. For example, $380 per player for the Empire Cup. Other clubs I’ve been at divide the fees evenly by the players attending, but Surf is charging each player $380 across the 21 teams going amounting to almost $100,000. This covers the meals but not transportation or hotel for the players. Then you have the Surf Cup where they are charging $550 per player going across all the teams. When asked Stacy Reeves says, “these are the fees. I’ve been doing this a long time.” Anyone have insight on these high fees? Or are we just set to pay a premium to play at Surf?

It "the other club" Gunners and now you regret trusting Eddie's lies that everything is brighter at Surf? Rory might be a dick but Adam is no better.

[Guest]

I understand that Surf is for profit, but I’m appalled and surprised by the extra costs for everything. For example, $380 per player for the Empire Cup. Other clubs I’ve been at divide the fees evenly by the players attending, but Surf is charging each player $380 across the 21 teams going amounting to almost $100,000. This covers the meals but not transportation or hotel for the players. Then you have the Surf Cup where they are charging $550 per player going across all the teams. When asked Stacy Reeves says, “these are the fees. I’ve been doing this a long time.” Anyone have insight on these high fees? Or are we just set to pay a premium to play at Surf?

What exactly are you complaining about? Are you new to travel soccer? Every team does it this way, you pay to play in tournaments. What team has free tourneys?

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$380 per player for the empire cup.

w... T.... F....

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What is the empire cup? And why is it $380 for a select tournament no one has ever heard of and doesn’t matter?

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What is the empire cup? And why is it $380 for a select tournament no one has ever heard of and doesn’t matter?

Just because you are ignorant it doesn’t mean it’s a bad tournament. It’s a good tournament here in Eastern Washington. People crying about tournament fees can vote with their wallets and not go. Stop crying like little b*tches.

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I understand that Surf is for profit, but I’m appalled and surprised by the extra costs for everything. For example, $380 per player for the Empire Cup. Other clubs I’ve been at divide the fees evenly by the players attending, but Surf is charging each player $380 across the 21 teams going amounting to almost $100,000. This covers the meals but not transportation or hotel for the players. Then you have the Surf Cup where they are charging $550 per player going across all the teams. When asked Stacy Reeves says, “these are the fees. I’ve been doing this a long time.” Anyone have insight on these high fees? Or are we just set to pay a premium to play at Surf?

How many players on your roster?

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I understand that Surf is for profit, but I’m appalled and surprised by the extra costs for everything. For example, $380 per player for the Empire Cup. Other clubs I’ve been at divide the fees evenly by the players attending, but Surf is charging each player $380 across the 21 teams going amounting to almost $100,000. This covers the meals but not transportation or hotel for the players. Then you have the Surf Cup where they are charging $550 per player going across all the teams. When asked Stacy Reeves says, “these are the fees. I’ve been doing this a long time.” Anyone have insight on these high fees? Or are we just set to pay a premium to play at Surf?

Your team treasurer ahould be able to give you a budget.

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Local tournaments like crossfire challenge and rush cup are included in team fees. Travel tournaments are extra, not hard to understand. Every club does this, it’s not a profit or non profit thing. If it’s too much for you just don’t go it’s not a big deal. Also It looks like Surf will organize 2 team dinners so it’s less of a hassle for parents.

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Local tournaments like crossfire challenge and rush cup are included in team fees. Travel tournaments are extra, not hard to understand. Every club does this, it’s not a profit or non profit thing. If it’s too much for you just don’t go it’s not a big deal. Also It looks like Surf will organize 2 team dinners so it’s less of a hassle for parents.

This is not how it works. Charging a roster of ~10+ kids $550 each to attend Surf when the entry fee is $1200 - $1500 doesn’t make any sense. Most clubs split the entry fee evenly per player and then parents are responsible for travel and lodging. Even including the coaches travel and accommodations, they’re still over collecting ~$2500+ per team.

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This is not how it works. Charging a roster of ~10+ kids $550 each to attend Surf when the entry fee is $1200 - $1500 doesn’t make any sense. Most clubs split the entry fee evenly per player and then parents are responsible for travel and lodging. Even including the coaches travel and accommodations, they’re still over collecting ~$2500+ per team.

This. Besides team fee never seen a "per player" fee bolted on top. We've been to regionals a few times and they don't even do that.

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This isn’t surprising considering XF is charging families 6k for one tournament and hotel in Europe and people are lined up to pay I suspect we will be seeing very high tournament fees from here on out. There is no shortage of rich parents of the eastside who don’t give a f. Honestly a lot of these parents like it because it limits competition for their kids spot. By the time you figure auction, privates, travel I’d guess well north of 20k a year is the new going rate.

These coaches don’t have other ways to make real money at msft or google…. They are just working there hustle the best they can figure.

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This. Besides team fee never seen a "per player" fee bolted on top. We've been to regionals a few times and they don't even do that.

See this all the time, what club doesn’t do that? Some clubs might be better at hiding fees spread out over 12 months but you are still paying for it.

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Just because you are ignorant it doesn’t mean it’s a bad tournament. It’s a good tournament here in Eastern Washington. People crying about tournament fees can vote with their wallets and not go. Stop crying like little b*tches.

What makes it a good tournament for anyone other than the organizers? Last year over 60% of the teams were WE Surf teams. Pay the club just to play their A/B/C/D teams in a single bracket or if you're lucky 1 other team from a different regional Surf club. Even their own players, coaches and parents were bitching about being forced to play in divisions made up solely of their own club.