Do you have a Coach or a Poach?

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Article from Soccer Wire

And the poacher?

Easy to spot. Think Bernie Madoff, not John Wooden. The poacher’s goal, Graham notes, is a short-term plan to get rich.

Practices are rote. The same practice session for the U-10 team at 5 p.m. is used again for the U-17 team at 6:30 p.m. Or worse, the first practice is cut short to leave for another team across town.

Development? That takes time. The poacher is far better at identifying talent – usually on other teams – than developing his own players. Team chemistry and player relationships are sacrificed in what is mistakenly taken as a competitive environment.

Watch a poacher’s practice and you’ll see that players aren’t encouraged to battle to make each other sharper. They are told to beat the player to earn that player’s spot on the field. There’s a starting 11, and then there’s subs. And if you’re a sub, the poacher is actively searching for your replacement.

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"Unfortunately, there are many people in the youth soccer world who “steal a living.” They act as coaches or club directors but do nothing that is truly in the best interest of the children and families they serve. In the end, their only interest is in themselves, and most of the families that have crossed their path are in worse situations because of it. We call these people “con artist coaches.”Doing private training without putting any thought into it so gullible parents hope their kid can get on their team."

"As you can imagine, con artist coaches are always scheming. So if a coach approaches us about a gofundme not directly related to the team, it is a major red flag.

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Allegations of poaching should be sent directly to the WYSA Executive Director, must be in writing and include specific details related to the complaint including names, dates, club affiliations, plus all related documentation which substantiates the claim. (Examples of such documentation would include copies of emails, text messages, social media communications and/or written statements from a parent/guardian.)

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Article from Soccer Wire

And the poacher?

Easy to spot. Think Bernie Madoff, not John Wooden. The poacher’s goal, Graham notes, is a short-term plan to get rich.

Practices are rote. The same practice session for the U-10 team at 5 p.m. is used again for the U-17 team at 6:30 p.m. Or worse, the first practice is cut short to leave for another team across town.

Development? That takes time. The poacher is far better at identifying talent – usually on other teams – than developing his own players. Team chemistry and player relationships are sacrificed in what is mistakenly taken as a competitive environment.

Watch a poacher’s practice and you’ll see that players aren’t encouraged to battle to make each other sharper. They are told to beat the player to earn that player’s spot on the field. There’s a starting 11, and then there’s subs. And if you’re a sub, the poacher is actively searching for your replacement.

soccerwire.com article from 2015.
https://www.soccerwire.com/resources...he-difference/

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"Unfortunately, there are many people in the youth soccer world who “steal a living.” They act as coaches or club directors but do nothing that is truly in the best interest of the children and families they serve. In the end, their only interest is in themselves, and most of the families that have crossed their path are in worse situations because of it. We call these people “con artist coaches.”Doing private training without putting any thought into it so gullible parents hope their kid can get on their team."

"As you can imagine, con artist coaches are always scheming. So if a coach approaches us about a gofundme not directly related to the team, it is a major red flag.

Article from medium.com from 2016, which appears to be a crowd-sourced, "anyone can publish" platform.
https://medium.com/@Switchingthefiel...h-dc23830dea97

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Allegations of poaching should be sent directly to the WYSA Executive Director, must be in writing and include specific details related to the complaint including names, dates, club affiliations, plus all related documentation which substantiates the claim. (Examples of such documentation would include copies of emails, text messages, social media communications and/or written statements from a parent/guardian.)

From WYSA, the Wisconsin Youth Soccer Association.
https://cdn1.sportngin.com/attachmen...y_APPROVED.pdf

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Why are associations prohibit players from changing clubs when neither clubs nor association are covering any tuition costs? Whoever is covering the costs should decide where to spend the money, otherwise it surely looks like an anticompetitive behavior from the association.

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The most amount of whine about “poaching” is coming from the clubs with the highest training coats in the area who never invest any money in the development and have a bunch of directors with six figure salaries. I guess they are too sad their cash cows are running away.

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Article from Soccer Wire

And the poacher?

Easy to spot. Think Bernie Madoff, not John Wooden. The poacher’s goal, Graham notes, is a short-term plan to get rich.

Practices are rote. The same practice session for the U-10 team at 5 p.m. is used again for the U-17 team at 6:30 p.m. Or worse, the first practice is cut short to leave for another team across town.

Development? That takes time. The poacher is far better at identifying talent – usually on other teams – than developing his own players. Team chemistry and player relationships are sacrificed in what is mistakenly taken as a competitive environment.

Watch a poacher’s practice and you’ll see that players aren’t encouraged to battle to make each other sharper. They are told to beat the player to earn that player’s spot on the field. There’s a starting 11, and then there’s subs. And if you’re a sub, the poacher is actively searching for your replacement.

Who knows a coach who's a poach who's actually rich?

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The biggest clubs in our area have a business plan that requires poaching from the lesser teams. They have rigged the system to only benefit and enrich themselves. Soon it will all end, other clubs are starting to wake up.

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The biggest clubs in our area have a business plan that requires poaching from the lesser teams. They have rigged the system to only benefit and enrich themselves. Soon it will all end, other clubs are starting to wake up.

Poaching from other teams is how it works everywhere, from Div II England to Regionalliga Nord in Germany to PNW. Nothing to wake up to. It is the landscape. The best players will always leave if they can get on a better team with more talented players.

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Poaching from other teams is how it works everywhere, from Div II England to Regionalliga Nord in Germany to PNW. Nothing to wake up to. It is the landscape. The best players will always leave if they can get on a better team with more talented players.

Those places are in an open competitive system. We are in a closed system essentially run by the biggest poachers. Not quite the same.

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Those places are in an open competitive system. We are in a closed system essentially run by the biggest poachers. Not quite the same.

What are you smoking? You think all England academies play against each other in an “open” system?

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We are in a closed system essentially run by the biggest poachers. .

Huh? According to who

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Poaching from other teams is how it works everywhere, from Div II England to Regionalliga Nord in Germany to PNW. Nothing to wake up to. It is the landscape. The best players will always leave if they can get on a better team with more talented players.

The whole IDEA dingus is...AND WE ARE TALKING YOUTH NOT ADULTS is that this predators POACH they dont COACH so eventually the poached (SINCE THEY AINT COACHED )become moribund and are replaced with the next set of victims that got coached from elsewhere until they too become moribund and the cycle of the developmental saboteur continues.