Why do parents dump money into this?

[Guest]

Studies show that a child's athletic potential is determined by the following weighted factors:

35% Genetic Predisposition (Cannot Be Coached)
25% Internal Drive (Cannot Be Coached)
20% Environment (Cannot Be Coached)
15% Coaching
5% Luck (Cannot be Coached)

Ultimately the biggest impact your coach is going to have on your kid, is whether or not they choose to continue playing that sport at all, and the potential for raising the ceiling of the player by the coach is relatively small, compared to factors which are less controllable.

But people still believe that if they shower coaches (especially private training coaches) with money that they can "buy" a higher athletic ceiling for their kid.

Parents who chase labels ("A" vs "B", RCL-1 vs ECNL-RL, etc) are ultimately going to get their kid promoted to the point where they no longer feel competent, the level of challenge is wrong for that kid, and the sport is no longer enjoyable in its own right... at which point the kid quits the sport.

[Guest]

Huh? Are you trying to say that coaches don’t matter? Well, awful coaches can destroy internal drive and are the biggest environmental influence. So coaches can affect up to 60% in that equation.

Most parents want their kids to play at the highest level possible b/c the top teams get best coaches and practice/game competition.

[Guest]

At some point, the kids will start advocating for themselves and wanting more competition and a more challenging environment. And then at some point they will quit because they need more time for all those AP classes and diversified set of extracurriculars that will get them into a good college.

[Guest]

Huh? Are you trying to say that coaches don’t matter? Well, awful coaches can destroy internal drive and are the biggest environmental influence. So coaches can affect up to 60% in that equation.

Most parents want their kids to play at the highest level possible b/c the top teams get best coaches and practice/game competition.

No rather that if you kid already has the internal motivation, then the coach can only destroy the internal motivation like you mention, but internal motivation isn't something that can be coached. So perhaps coaching can lower the floor more than it can raise the ceiling.

Yet there are so many suckers that think they can "buy" a higher ceiling for their kid if they just spend more money on private training, and then when it doesn't work they blame the coaching.

[Guest]

Studies show that a child's athletic potential is determined by the following weighted factors:

35% Genetic Predisposition (Cannot Be Coached)
25% Internal Drive (Cannot Be Coached)
20% Environment (Cannot Be Coached)
15% Coaching
5% Luck (Cannot be Coached)

Ultimately the biggest impact your coach is going to have on your kid, is whether or not they choose to continue playing that sport at all, and the potential for raising the ceiling of the player by the coach is relatively small, compared to factors which are less controllable.

But people still believe that if they shower coaches (especially private training coaches) with money that they can "buy" a higher athletic ceiling for their kid.

Parents who chase labels ("A" vs "B", RCL-1 vs ECNL-RL, etc) are ultimately going to get their kid promoted to the point where they no longer feel competent, the level of challenge is wrong for that kid, and the sport is no longer enjoyable in its own right... at which point the kid quits the sport.

You forgot to mention politics 85%. Like the goalie being the zipfizz's daughter and her coach works for her daddy.

[Guest]

only at XF.

[Guest]

No rather that if you kid already has the internal motivation, then the coach can only destroy the internal motivation like you mention, but internal motivation isn't something that can be coached. So perhaps coaching can lower the floor more than it can raise the ceiling.

Yet there are so many suckers that think they can "buy" a higher ceiling for their kid if they just spend more money on private training, and then when it doesn't work they blame the coaching.

Yes, we all know the delusional soccer families who think they can just throw money and training at their kid and expect outcomes beyond the kid's potential. But that doesn't mean hard work is a bad thing. It's necessary but not sufficient.

As mentioned above, it's also the case that being exposed to better competition is necessary to grow. That is what you find with chasing the different leagues, especially as you have more knowledge of the general level of competition in the leagues, while you won't know if your kid is a good fit with the coach until after already being on the team.

[Guest]

Studies show that a child's athletic potential is determined by the following weighted factors:

35% Genetic Predisposition (Cannot Be Coached)
25% Internal Drive (Cannot Be Coached)
20% Environment (Cannot Be Coached)
15% Coaching
5% Luck (Cannot be Coached)

Ultimately the biggest impact your coach is going to have on your kid, is whether or not they choose to continue playing that sport at all, and the potential for raising the ceiling of the player by the coach is relatively small, compared to factors which are less controllable.

But people still believe that if they shower coaches (especially private training coaches) with money that they can "buy" a higher athletic ceiling for their kid.

Parents who chase labels ("A" vs "B", RCL-1 vs ECNL-RL, etc) are ultimately going to get their kid promoted to the point where they no longer feel competent, the level of challenge is wrong for that kid, and the sport is no longer enjoyable in its own right... at which point the kid quits the sport.

Dude, it says “Coaching” not “Coach”. Environment and internal drive are both influenced by the club and coach selection, as good coach will put players in a great competitive training environment.

[Guest]

Have you considered a simpler explanation, these parents can simply afford all these?

[Guest]

Dude, it says “Coaching” not “Coach”. Environment and internal drive are both influenced by the club and coach selection, as good coach will put players in a great competitive training environment.

Yes sir

[Guest]

Studies show that a child's athletic potential is determined by the following weighted factors:

35% Genetic Predisposition (Cannot Be Coached)
25% Internal Drive (Cannot Be Coached)
20% Environment (Cannot Be Coached)
15% Coaching
5% Luck (Cannot be Coached)

Ultimately the biggest impact your coach is going to have on your kid, is whether or not they choose to continue playing that sport at all, and the potential for raising the ceiling of the player by the coach is relatively small, compared to factors which are less controllable.

But people still believe that if they shower coaches (especially private training coaches) with money that they can "buy" a higher athletic ceiling for their kid.

Parents who chase labels ("A" vs "B", RCL-1 vs ECNL-RL, etc) are ultimately going to get their kid promoted to the point where they no longer feel competent, the level of challenge is wrong for that kid, and the sport is no longer enjoyable in its own right... at which point the kid quits the sport.

"Studies show" ... Was unable to source this and without a source, have to assume the weighted factors were picked out of thin air, therefore the premise of the post is based on made-up data.

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Parents who chase labels ("A" vs "B", RCL-1 vs ECNL-RL, etc) are ultimately going to get their kid promoted to the point where they no longer feel competent

They are? Really spreading that peanut butter there.