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    Poacjing Players and Recruiting Violations

    We have to do something to protect coaches and clubs. It cannot be okay for our players to be taken – and very easily, I might add.

    We have to give our clubs some protection and take a stand.

    U.S. Soccer and States and Leagues must adopt rules and policies, and clubs should have internal rules and standards too. Clubs who make it their policy to recruit and tamper should not have continued access to our players whenever they want them and with no reward given to the club they are taken from – especially after years of development.

    I hope we can all be on board with finding a solution. I literally cannot be most effective as a youth coach when a huge part of my limited time with the players is spent building off the weeks, months, season before in order to grow players and teams. And when it’s reset and restarted from zero every start to the fall season, it’s nearly impossible.

    Tampering and recruiting can be in multiple forms: (Many, MANY other examples exist)
    1. Parents from those other clubs constantly call the parents from our players to do the recruiting for that club. Even though a parent may not be wanting these calls, they are continually hounded.
    1. ECNL, DA, State regulated clubs breaking the rules by allowing the players from other clubs to train with them outside of the window allowed for this without a release.
    1. Parents are guilty of accepting these calls and invitations for training, but the responsibility should be on the club to follow rules and if they don’t, there should be ACTUAL sanctions placed. It is unfathomable that clubs are not protected with State rules and policies governing these rampant recruiting and tampering behaviors.
    1. To have players play in competitive games with two separate clubs in any given session is an absolute travesty. And clubs seeking this out and parents allowing this to happen must stop.

    Youth Soccer is a big business and necessitates the need to start with an even playing field. The rules need to be set to protect all clubs that are truly putting the player first by caring about the player’s development; only to have players whisked away with a recruiting offer to another club is disastrous and against the good of the game and against what parents should be in charge of deciding – wins over development.

    #2
    "An Open Letter from USWNT Legend Tiffeny Milbrett – Calling All Youth Soccer Clubs in the USA
    "https://www.soccerparenting.com/tiffeny-milbrett-stop-youth-soccer-recruiting/

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      #3
      Thanks for your understanding in my need to reach out and request rule changes and policy formation that will go against recruiting and tampering with players from other clubs in season.

      I have been in the youth soccer club system now for 9 years as a full time coach. I am absolutely dismayed and angered about the utter lack of policies and rules to regulate what is absolutely rampant and wrong in youth soccer regarding clubs tampering with and recruiting players from other clubs during a competitive season. I have witnessed and been on the losing end of other clubs recruiting and taking my players.

      There is no denying the fact that youth soccer is an extremely competitive market. And in other competitive markets around the world there are major rules and policies in place against recruiting and tampering and penalties levied to those that break the rules. Please read to further your knowledge of how seriously the topic of tampering and recruiting is taken in the world of youth soccer. This is where the USA needs to get to as well, in my opinion. Manchester City Recruiting Story Link HERE

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        #4
        Originally posted by Guest View Post
        We have to do something to protect coaches and clubs. It cannot be okay for our players to be taken – and very easily, I might add.

        We have to give our clubs some protection and take a stand.

        U.S. Soccer and States and Leagues must adopt rules and policies, and clubs should have internal rules and standards too. Clubs who make it their policy to recruit and tamper should not have continued access to our players whenever they want them and with no reward given to the club they are taken from – especially after years of development.

        I hope we can all be on board with finding a solution. I literally cannot be most effective as a youth coach when a huge part of my limited time with the players is spent building off the weeks, months, season before in order to grow players and teams. And when it’s reset and restarted from zero every start to the fall season, it’s nearly impossible.

        Tampering and recruiting can be in multiple forms: (Many, MANY other examples exist)
        1. Parents from those other clubs constantly call the parents from our players to do the recruiting for that club. Even though a parent may not be wanting these calls, they are continually hounded.
        1. ECNL, DA, State regulated clubs breaking the rules by allowing the players from other clubs to train with them outside of the window allowed for this without a release.
        1. Parents are guilty of accepting these calls and invitations for training, but the responsibility should be on the club to follow rules and if they don’t, there should be ACTUAL sanctions placed. It is unfathomable that clubs are not protected with State rules and policies governing these rampant recruiting and tampering behaviors.
        1. To have players play in competitive games with two separate clubs in any given session is an absolute travesty. And clubs seeking this out and parents allowing this to happen must stop.

        Youth Soccer is a big business and necessitates the need to start with an even playing field. The rules need to be set to protect all clubs that are truly putting the player first by caring about the player’s development; only to have players whisked away with a recruiting offer to another club is disastrous and against the good of the game and against what parents should be in charge of deciding – wins over development.
        so you’re saying that guest playing should be off the table? I don’t think I agree with that and I think that players can guest play with other teams from outside their states or cities and still remain committed to their teams. It’s just good for exposure and they can be good for social reasons.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Guest View Post
          Thanks for your understanding in my need to reach out and request rule changes and policy formation that will go against recruiting and tampering with players from other clubs in season.

          I have been in the youth soccer club system now for 9 years as a full time coach. I am absolutely dismayed and angered about the utter lack of policies and rules to regulate what is absolutely rampant and wrong in youth soccer regarding clubs tampering with and recruiting players from other clubs during a competitive season. I have witnessed and been on the losing end of other clubs recruiting and taking my players.

          There is no denying the fact that youth soccer is an extremely competitive market. And in other competitive markets around the world there are major rules and policies in place against recruiting and tampering and penalties levied to those that break the rules. Please read to further your knowledge of how seriously the topic of tampering and recruiting is taken in the world of youth soccer. This is where the USA needs to get to as well, in my opinion. Manchester City Recruiting Story Link HERE
          Screw you!! All the power is in the clubs hands and once players get a little bit of power (such as shopping around clubs) you want to take that away! I’m so sick of coaches and clubs that don’t realize the power they have—you guys can and do make the soccer experience horrible for a player. There are a multitude of ways that coaches and clubs kill the love a player has for this sport. Maybe stop some of the little things like having your top teams selected before tryouts! You know things like that that are common throughout the clubs and kill a players competitive spirit. If you are looking for sympathy you came to the wrong place

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            #6
            Maybe you suck as a coach, work harder and players won't leave

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              #7
              Originally posted by Guest View Post

              Screw you!! All the power is in the clubs hands and once players get a little bit of power (such as shopping around clubs) you want to take that away! I’m so sick of coaches and clubs that don’t realize the power they have—you guys can and do make the soccer experience horrible for a player. There are a multitude of ways that coaches and clubs kill the love a player has for this sport. Maybe stop some of the little things like having your top teams selected before tryouts! You know things like that that are common throughout the clubs and kill a players competitive spirit. If you are looking for sympathy you came to the wrong place
              If your club or you coach like **** don’t blame the kids who leave your club for what they think is better pastures. If they’re wrong then educate them, if they still don’t believe you then let them leave. Youth soccer coaches and clubs do not get exclusive rights to the decisions of young players.

              its quite disappointing that there is a coach out there who thinks his youth soccer players are his property and are not allowed to leave. What are you trying to hide, if you can actually coach and your club doesn’t suck then why are you worried? If you’ve had this problem over and over again, look inward instead of trying to trap kids and force them to play with you and eventually quit the sport by playing for a **** coach.

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                #8
                you don't own the players, if they want to leave they will

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                  #9
                  Whether you like it or not, youth soccer in the US is a pay to play system and families are the customer. They are paying for a service and should be able to go where they please. Coaches add and drop players mid season all the time, coaches switch clubs mid season, clubs make inaccurate promises during tryout season. Flexibility to move teams and clubs is essentially a consumer protection. Should Target stop “recruiting” Walmart customers? Should Ford stop marketing to GM owners? Soccer is a business. Period. Until that changes, a player should be able to play wherever they want as long as they are in good financial standing with the current club.

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                    #10
                    You dumb azz this isnt about parents switching its about coaches going out and actively poaching players without the parents making the first move.

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                      #11
                      Sorry your kid got left behind on the B team at a rec club.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Guest View Post
                        You dumb azz this isnt about parents switching its about coaches going out and actively poaching players without the parents making the first move.
                        You should tell everyone who you are so the youth soccer world knows who to avoid lol, youth soccer coach who behaves like an internet troll, no wonder you have trouble retaining players

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                          #13
                          I’d totally sign my kid up for a coach that legit typed out the characters “azz” on a Thursday morning. That alone tells me what I need to know. No surprise your players are fleeing.

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