HS Gets Props--Oregon Girls in D1 NCAA playoffs

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Love it! no mention of da 'club' or da 'league' just the good ole bedrock HS from where they came.

https://www.oregonlive.com/highschoo...ournament.html


This is America.

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Love it! no mention of da 'club' or da 'league' just the good ole bedrock HS from where they came.

https://www.oregonlive.com/highschoo...ournament.html


This is America.

To the Oregonian, prep sports are the pinnacle of youth achievement, and club sports don't exist. Which is probably a good thing.

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To the Oregonian, prep sports are the pinnacle of youth achievement, and club sports don't exist. Which is probably a good thing.

It’s a great thing! DA tried to kill HS soccer to pad their own pockets. Glad they went away.

Kids should have the experience of playing for their schools and in front of their peers. Very few give a crap about what a club does, but the community loves to support their schools.

Good luck ladies

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It’s a great thing! DA tried to kill HS soccer to pad their own pockets. Glad they went away.

Kids should have the experience of playing for their schools and in front of their peers. Very few give a crap about what a club does, but the community loves to support their schools.

Good luck ladies

In Oregon, high school stars in 6A are more indicative of future college stars than club star. All the club players play high school where they go against each other and against the best younger and older players for that high school. There are players that look good in club because they play in a weak league or weak age group or both. Some of those big frog, small pond players don’t do so well in high school when they are faced with better competition. The ones that are a star at both tend to have the most success at college. If a junior or senior club star is being shut down in high school play, you know they aren’t the real deal as far as college ball goes. Other states might be different but in Oregon, high school play is actually the most accurate play to link to college. Example: ECNL star was also a star in high school, breaking the all time Oregon goal record.

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Love it! no mention of da 'club' or da 'league' just the good ole bedrock HS from where they came.

https://www.oregonlive.com/highschoo...ournament.html


This is America.

I was wondering where they played club, not high school. High school soccer is not the path to playing in college.

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In Oregon, high school stars in 6A are more indicative of future college stars than club star. All the club players play high school where they go against each other and against the best younger and older players for that high school. There are players that look good in club because they play in a weak league or weak age group or both. Some of those big frog, small pond players don’t do so well in high school when they are faced with better competition. The ones that are a star at both tend to have the most success at college. If a junior or senior club star is being shut down in high school play, you know they aren’t the real deal as far as college ball goes. Other states might be different but in Oregon, high school play is actually the most accurate play to link to college. Example: ECNL star was also a star in high school, breaking the all time Oregon goal record.

Hilarious you idiots don’t even refer to the club or team anymore.

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I was wondering where they played club, not high school. High school soccer is not the path to playing in college.

Dear Genius,

High School is literally the only path to College (hs grades are required to get in no way around that, unless you go the Varsity Blues route ha.ha.), this is the USA ---not Europe where HS the best HS aged kids don't go to school and instead play with the youth junior 'club' team, that same 'club' has a pro team at the top of their organizational structure. Sorry you are so clueless. Must be a CU parent who still thinks the name of the league is more important than name on the back of the shirt & GPA. Figures.

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Several things:

1) Level of play at premier level club teams is above and beyond level of play in HS. Exceptions are teams like Jesuit girls that are--you guessed it--stacked with premier level club players. Simple math--there are 55 6A high schools in Oregon, and there are only about a dozen teams max, at each age group, that can be legit called premier. Even if one assumes that varsity teams are evenly distributed across the grades (they aren't; often by policy--since college can only recruit upperclassmen, many coaches limit varsity to juniors and seniors), there aren't enough high level club players to staff all the varsity squads. And that's just looking at 6A, add 5A and 4A into the mix and it gets worse.

2) Many HS programs have a "rec mentality". Not necessarily a bad thing; the primary purpose of high school is academics and not athletics, and many schools and districts value the sportsmanship benefits of sports above trophy-chasing. And some of this is necessary due to attendance boundaries; if the available talent pool means that a HS team is never going to contend for state championship, focus on something else. OHSA also tends to view competitive soccer clubs as anti-intellectual and toxic, and in many ways they aren't wrong.

3) Many HS coaches are dinosaurs. Not all, but I can think of a few that view soccer as track with a ball, or worse, as akin to field hockey (i.e. "midfielders pass to the forwards, and only the forwards have any business taking shots on goal"). Plus, OHSA rules that limit skills training (but permit fitness) at certain times of the year, and take the view that soccer is (ordinarily) a fall sport and should not be played during winter or spring (in non-Covid years at least), limit HS as a development platform.

4) That said.... it's free, or close to it (a couple hundred bucks vs several thousand for club), and HS sports have a built-in constituency. The paper cares because people care. Nobody but participants, friends, family, and the occasional scout give a flying rip about club soccer.

College coaches, generally, care both about a player's club and HS career. They know that many players are "trapped" on bad HS teams. On the other hand, at least for boys, colleges are getting the players that the pros pass over (unlike with hoops or American football, where kids cannot be signed/drafted directly out of high school).

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Several things:

1) Level of play at premier level club teams is above and beyond level of play in HS. Exceptions are teams like Jesuit girls that are--you guessed it--stacked with premier level club players. Simple math--there are 55 6A high schools in Oregon, and there are only about a dozen teams max, at each age group, that can be legit called premier. Even if one assumes that varsity teams are evenly distributed across the grades (they aren't; often by policy--since college can only recruit upperclassmen, many coaches limit varsity to juniors and seniors), there aren't enough high level club players to staff all the varsity squads. And that's just looking at 6A, add 5A and 4A into the mix and it gets worse.

2) Many HS programs have a "rec mentality". Not necessarily a bad thing; the primary purpose of high school is academics and not athletics, and many schools and districts value the sportsmanship benefits of sports above trophy-chasing. And some of this is necessary due to attendance boundaries; if the available talent pool means that a HS team is never going to contend for state championship, focus on something else. OHSA also tends to view competitive soccer clubs as anti-intellectual and toxic, and in many ways they aren't wrong.

3) Many HS coaches are dinosaurs. Not all, but I can think of a few that view soccer as track with a ball, or worse, as akin to field hockey (i.e. "midfielders pass to the forwards, and only the forwards have any business taking shots on goal"). Plus, OHSA rules that limit skills training (but permit fitness) at certain times of the year, and take the view that soccer is (ordinarily) a fall sport and should not be played during winter or spring (in non-Covid years at least), limit HS as a development platform.

4) That said.... it's free, or close to it (a couple hundred bucks vs several thousand for club), and HS sports have a built-in constituency. The paper cares because people care. Nobody but participants, friends, family, and the occasional scout give a flying rip about club soccer.

College coaches, generally, care both about a player's club and HS career. They know that many players are "trapped" on bad HS teams. On the other hand, at least for boys, colleges are getting the players that the pros pass over (unlike with hoops or American football, where kids cannot be signed/drafted directly out of high school).

The HS to college pathway is the only proven route & irrefutable process that has stood the test of time.

Opine all you want with your version offered, loved the fact you put a # before your opinions.

$$ (signs) instead of numbers would of really helped $ell your colorful stories.

Jus sayin

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The HS to college pathway is the only proven route & irrefutable process that has stood the test of time.

Opine all you want with your version offered, loved the fact you put a # before your opinions.

$$ (signs) instead of numbers would of really helped $ell your colorful stories.

Jus sayin

Read the last part.

Colleges care about both. Some players play for a crap HS, but a good club. Others the other way around. College coaches are smart enough to know this.

And I'll agree with you that certain club coaches who insist that you MUST play for Travel League X in order to be recruited, are lying through their teeth. OTOH, being on the A team at a well-regarded club (which does NOT have to be in Travel League X) is a major feather in the cap of a potential recruit.

Ultimately, colleges recruit players. They don't recruit teams.

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Read the last part.

Colleges care about both. Some players play for a crap HS, but a good club. Others the other way around. College coaches are smart enough to know this.

And I'll agree with you that certain club coaches who insist that you MUST play for Travel League X in order to be recruited, are lying through their teeth. OTOH, being on the A team at a well-regarded club (which does NOT have to be in Travel League X) is a major feather in the cap of a potential recruit.Ultimately, colleges recruit players. They don't recruit teams.

All colleges try to recruit the top female hs soccer athletes available--- 1st and foremost, that's why you hear all the stories about the USA World Cup champs and how they rocked playing 3 sports in HS. Club soccer isn't giving much attention as it pales in comparison to traditional HS sports. Much like the male HS Football stud who played 3 sports om HS and also dominated the 7 v 7 passing league in his free time, nobody cared about the passing league.

Women's soccer besties in the states have always been some of our countries top female athletes which is 180 degrees different than the american boys/men soccer players. Nearly all of the best usa hs aged male athletes get pulled in the direction of the money sports (Football Baseball & Basketball) for obvious reasons.

There is no women's american football platform currently available to pull the soccer girls away for pursuit of money and prestige. Maybe Rapinoe should start a female only American football league so she can get paid. Americans love their Football.

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I was wondering where they played club, not high school. High school soccer is not the path to playing in college.

4 of the 7 played for FC Portland ECNL

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Today’s article about the boys mentioned the academy clubs they played in. Maybe the Oregonian doesn’t see any value in the mishmash of “best” clubs and leagues in Oregon.

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Today’s article about the boys mentioned the academy clubs they played in. Maybe the Oregonian doesn’t see any value in the mishmash of “best” clubs and leagues in Oregon.

Development Academy Timbers is tied to the MLS.

Local clubs have female bound college players in robust numbers due to Title IX legislation and funding.

Value is earned my friend, handouts are handouts.

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Read the last part.

Colleges care about both. Some players play for a crap HS, but a good club. Others the other way around. College coaches are smart enough to know this.

And I'll agree with you that certain club coaches who insist that you MUST play for Travel League X in order to be recruited, are lying through their teeth. OTOH, being on the A team at a well-regarded club (which does NOT have to be in Travel League X) is a major feather in the cap of a potential recruit.

Ultimately, colleges recruit players. They don't recruit teams.

College coaches know that true stars will shine in club and high school, no matter if the club team or high school team aren’t the best. Oregon’s best have always been the stars of high school. Always. In fact, true stars have carried their entire high school teams. The ones who do well in club but don’t stand out in high school, have never panned out in college. If you can’t dominate in high school play, college ball will be a rude awakening. A great player is not “trapped” anywhere and will rise above wherever they are.