u19 forfeits

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anyone know why girls pacific fc and westside 01s are showing forfeits for the rest of their season?

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anyone know why girls pacific fc and westside 01s are showing forfeits for the rest of their season?

My guess is the teams fell apart. Neither were winning, and it's hard enough to put together a roster when you are limited to HS seniors born in the fall and December. Girls get busy with high school activities, college prep, and the usual other distractions that cause players to fall away from the game, and poof, you don't have enough to field a team. In the case of the Westside team, there's also an 02 team in the same bracket that is doing far better in the standings.

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My guess is the teams fell apart. Neither were winning, and it's hard enough to put together a roster when you are limited to HS seniors born in the fall and December. Girls get busy with high school activities, college prep, and the usual other distractions that cause players to fall away from the game, and poof, you don't have enough to field a team. In the case of the Westside team, there's also an 02 team in the same bracket that is doing far better in the standings.

Seriously - can we just go back to school year for hs age? Especially on the girls' side. Heck a Freshman/Sophomore division and a Junior/Senior division would make so much more sense than what we have now; for state cup maybe you have to go pure calendar year, but man this is sub-optimal now.

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Seriously - can we just go back to school year for hs age? Especially on the girls' side. Heck a Freshman/Sophomore division and a Junior/Senior division would make so much more sense than what we have now; for state cup maybe you have to go pure calendar year, but man this is sub-optimal now.

The people at US Soccer couldn't find their own ass with a map.

They have hurt youth soccer across the country by listening to highly paid consultants that show up in Puma track suits and say dumb things in bad British accents. They type of a report at the hotel bar and invoice USSF $400,000 for such great advice like birth year.

They say it hurts the US playing internationally to be on school year.

Well, guess what. 99.9999997% of the kids that play soccer in the US are never going to play internationally so going birth year is effing stupid.

Seriously one of the dumbest changes ever.

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My guess is the teams fell apart. Neither were winning, and it's hard enough to put together a roster when you are limited to HS seniors born in the fall and December. Girls get busy with high school activities, college prep, and the usual other distractions that cause players to fall away from the game, and poof, you don't have enough to field a team. In the case of the Westside team, there's also an 02 team in the same bracket that is doing far better in the standings.

Given the number of clubs and the size/population of the various regions served by various clubs, it's really dumb for any club to try to put together separate 01 and 02 premier teams. Unless you have 50 quality players showing up at tryouts, that is. Westside's 01's haven't been premier quality since - what - u11? - so putting an 01 team in premier was puzzling from the start. Pacific has always been a bubble premier/division 1 team and were just in over their heads. Probably would have had more fun and stayed together if they had gone into Division 1 where they belong.

Overall I agree with the other commenter. This is just one of many ways the outrageously stupid birth year switch has caused more harm than good. That being said, clubs need to recognize what they have for talent and numbers and form teams appropriately, remembering that injuries happen and during senior year especially players sometimes quit.

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The people at US Soccer couldn't find their own ass with a map.

They have hurt youth soccer across the country by listening to highly paid consultants that show up in Puma track suits and say dumb things in bad British accents. They type of a report at the hotel bar and invoice USSF $400,000 for such great advice like birth year.

They say it hurts the US playing internationally to be on school year.

Well, guess what. 99.9999997% of the kids that play soccer in the US are never going to play internationally so going birth year is effing stupid.

Seriously one of the dumbest changes ever.

Change to birth year created a cluster for 11th and 12th grade players - 11th is now the biggest recruiting year for girls as well. Soccer participation numbers have fallen more than 15% since change to birth year and keep dropping.

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Change to birth year created a cluster for 11th and 12th grade players - 11th is now the biggest recruiting year for girls as well. Soccer participation numbers have fallen more than 15% since change to birth year and keep dropping.

The birth year change created the problem of having 1.5 teams aging up to the u18/19 age. This caused clubs to either have to cut average of 10 A team players to make one u18/19 team (Thorns) or add a few b team players and try to make 2 u18/19 teams (ecnl). Both approaches have problems but the problem is inherent in a birth year system.

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The birth year change created the problem of having 1.5 teams aging up to the u18/19 age. This caused clubs to either have to cut average of 10 A team players to make one u18/19 team (Thorns) or add a few b team players and try to make 2 u18/19 teams (ecnl). Both approaches have problems but the problem is inherent in a birth year system.

This is a symptom of the American School-Year (Grade) calendar being shelved for the worldwide football birth year model.

Sports in the states are tied almost exclusively to School notably (HS & college) some states outside of Oregon still have elementary/middle & jr hs sports teams.

The birth year grouping is appropriate for countries that love soccer above all else have no other competing sports that approach the devotion for soccer.

Trying to fit a square peg (USA Male Soccer) into a round hole (World Football) is never going to be successful whilst Men's USA soccer (MLS) hovers as the number#4 or #5 sport in it's own country.

As it relates to women or girls soccer in the states. It makes no difference in terms of their quality for them beactual birth year or academic birth year club/odp setup. The fact remains nobody watches the sport professionally in the USA and they make no real money playing it professionally. Socially clubs girls like to stay and play with friends/classmates so they would be better served and if follows the ideology of loving to play HS recreational soccer.

It's a no brainer to switch back for the girls. Nothing changes.

WIth the guys changing it back to the academic school year calendar would bring more players into the sport. Fielding teams national teams that resemble the 2002, 2006 & 2010 national team.