SCA and OYSA

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Good option

SCA should simply register with US Club and be done with it. They'll take anyone (and have no non-profit requirement), and if it pisses off the local USYSA affiliate, so much the better. That will get them into most tourneys and many of the local leagues.

This is a good option for SCA.

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This is a good option for SCA.

That doesn't really solve much. They can register with US youth soccer, but still no local league to play in, as there isn't a US club soccer league in the area.

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That doesn't really solve much. They can register with US youth soccer, but still no local league to play in, as there isn't a US club soccer league in the area.

Will be next year.

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Will be next year.

That is good there will be league next year. Excited to see who plays in it. Oregon has been down this road before, its how we got here.

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Will they ban the for profit Portland Timbers from involvement in their leagues?

Hopefully.

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That doesn't really solve much. They can register with US youth soccer, but still no local league to play in, as there isn't a US club soccer league in the area.

I'm sure the usual suspects can be persuaded to form one. Some of the "Nike clubs" have been trying to move their B teams out of OYSA for quite a while now, but don't seem to be able to seal the deal.

Backing away from the whole SCA kerfuffle, there's been a longstanding feud in the local soccer community between those who wish to focus on development of "elite" players (even if pro-quality players are black swans) and those who favor a more community-based model that includes ample support for recreational and "select" (non-premier competitive) soccer. The original OPL split was over such matters IIRC, with the move to small-sided games being a major catalyst (though avoidance of travel to Medford or Bend may have been an issue as well). (Ironically, it was the "elite" coaches who were opposed to such a move, viewing it as a sop to lower-quality players, a viewpoint that has not survived the test of time). And US Club itself was founded because some club coaches accused USYSA of having a "rec" mentality, and not focusing on the needs of the elite-level player. (Whether such claims are accurate is another matter).

Nowadays, the DA (on the boys side) has claimed much of the mantle for elite development, particularly at U15 and above where it is mainly pro academies and a few nationally-known blue chip clubs that operate DA teams. Some nonprofit clubs are going back to focusing on the levels below (including college-track but not pro-track) soccer. OTOH, since the DA remains difficult to get into, there remains a lucrative business for private training, one that has not been encumbered by non-profit status or community focus. Which is fine--except there is the question of what happens when such entities start running clubs. And now that it appears the green light has been given for US clubs to claim training compensation, at least as far as international prospects go, expect the competition for elite-potential players (those with the speed, size, reflexes, or stamina that are necessary for a pro career, even if not yet trained to that level) to get fiercer.

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I'm sure the usual suspects can be persuaded to form one. Some of the "Nike clubs" have been trying to move their B teams out of OYSA for quite a while now, but don't seem to be able to seal the deal.

Backing away from the whole SCA kerfuffle, there's been a longstanding feud in the local soccer community between those who wish to focus on development of "elite" players (even if pro-quality players are black swans) and those who favor a more community-based model that includes ample support for recreational and "select" (non-premier competitive) soccer. The original OPL split was over such matters IIRC, with the move to small-sided games being a major catalyst (though avoidance of travel to Medford or Bend may have been an issue as well). (Ironically, it was the "elite" coaches who were opposed to such a move, viewing it as a sop to lower-quality players, a viewpoint that has not survived the test of time). And US Club itself was founded because some club coaches accused USYSA of having a "rec" mentality, and not focusing on the needs of the elite-level player. (Whether such claims are accurate is another matter).

Nowadays, the DA (on the boys side) has claimed much of the mantle for elite development, particularly at U15 and above where it is mainly pro academies and a few nationally-known blue chip clubs that operate DA teams. Some nonprofit clubs are going back to focusing on the levels below (including college-track but not pro-track) soccer. OTOH, since the DA remains difficult to get into, there remains a lucrative business for private training, one that has not been encumbered by non-profit status or community focus. Which is fine--except there is the question of what happens when such entities start running clubs. And now that it appears the green light has been given for US clubs to claim training compensation, at least as far as international prospects go, expect the competition for elite-potential players (those with the speed, size, reflexes, or stamina that are necessary for a pro career, even if not yet trained to that level) to get fiercer.

US club sounds about right for b level or below teams. Looking at the US club regional teams and nations. OYSA does have the presidents club route if you qualify to as a club to get in.

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US Club
4H rec league
OYSA

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JS is starting to figure out Oregon youth soccer politics. There's always a faction looking to split with OYSA. Now he just needs to take a page from MJ's playbook and get a local sports reporter to write an outrage piece on how the mean troglodytes at OYSA are retarding soccer innovation by keeping his club out of fall league, blah blah blah. Either the newshounds at one of the local networks will fall over themselves to cover this, or they won't give a shiz. Fifty-fifty, though MJ may have already burned through the monthly quota of youth soccer coverage.

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Will SCA still be registering teams with US Club under FC Huracan, or was that all just an elaborate ploy to deceive OYSA? Who is FC(IFC) Huracan anyways? They don’t even have an Oregon business license.

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Problem

US Club
4H rec league
OYSA

The problem with US Club has been the playoff structure.

Most coaches under the OPL wanted to go back to USYS the play offs

Boys Girls
DA ECNL (US League)
USYS DA
US Club USYS
US NPL US NPL (US Club

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Will SCA still be registering teams with US Club under FC Huracan, or was that all just an elaborate ploy to deceive OYSA? Who is FC(IFC) Huracan anyways? They don’t even have an Oregon business license.

You are dumber than dumb.

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SCA is beginning to bleed players. We had two players at my sons practice Thursday night

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Will SCA still be registering teams with US Club under FC Huracan, or was that all just an elaborate ploy to deceive OYSA? Who is FC(IFC) Huracan anyways? They don’t even have an Oregon business license.

Appears to be an attempt to deceive OYSA. Love how on the website all the SCA coaches were named as new hires to FC Huracan!! Didn’t those coaches already cash in paychecks as SCA coaches? Are there any real FC Huracan teams through IFC being adversely impacted by this SCA nonsense?

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SCA is in need of a tourniquet. They are beginning to bleed