SCA and OYSA

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Yes the were hooked up with OYSA member IFC Club.

GPS was not a member, that is the point.

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GPS is owned by Brit’s.

They recruit in Britain with the promise of coming to America and making a living as a soccer coach. Community coaches in Europe don’t get paid a living wage.

Come live in America, work a few hours a week and make a living while ignorant parents treat you like a God.

That’s how these two guys ended up in the States. GPS realized The Oregon GPS Emperor wasn’t wearing any clothes so they sent these two to clean things up. But one got caught with visa issues and could get back to fix things so they hung on with The Emperor.

Both guys got a following and enough to start a club to make their own way.

Maybe they are good guys and good coaches. But they came to coach camps for the Brits and then got associated with the Emperor.

Maybe they have a badge, maybe they don’t.

Maybe they recruit, maybe they don’t.

Maybe they are honest and caring, maybe they aren’t.

Words are words, actions are actions.

The actions of those who came before weren’t good, and these guys were involved to a certain degree. Maybe they realized GPS was a scam and want to do things the right way.

Time will tell.

Being a soccer coach in the UK is like being a basketball or baseball coach here. Any dad can do a halfway-decent job, and there are plenty of volunteers who are experts at the game. Thus--outside the professional academies (which have high standards for who they hire), you can't make a living at it. And the whole edifice of high school sports (which provides another avenue for non-professional-grade coaches to make at least decent money for their time) doesn't really exist.

That's true of many soccer cultures--if everyone knows and teaches the game, you have to be really special to sell that knowledge. Great for the fans and the players, but not so much if you want to become a coach.

One sign that the US will have arrived as a soccer culture, is when foreign-born coaches no longer see the US as an opportunity--because quality coaches are a dime a dozen. This will be bad for coaches, of course, but good for players.

That said, there are plenty of American-born coaches in the various clubs who are just as good as the fellows with accents.

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Being a soccer coach in the UK is like being a basketball or baseball coach here. Any dad can do a halfway-decent job, and there are plenty of volunteers who are experts at the game. Thus--outside the professional academies (which have high standards for who they hire), you can't make a living at it. And the whole edifice of high school sports (which provides another avenue for non-professional-grade coaches to make at least decent money for their time) doesn't really exist.

That's true of many soccer cultures--if everyone knows and teaches the game, you have to be really special to sell that knowledge. Great for the fans and the players, but not so much if you want to become a coach.

One sign that the US will have arrived as a soccer culture, is when foreign-born coaches no longer see the US as an opportunity--because quality coaches are a dime a dozen. This will be bad for coaches, of course, but good for players.

That said, there are plenty of American-born coaches in the various clubs who are just as good as the fellows with accents.

I agree with this, although I have heard these guys speak and quite clearly state because they have an accent it doesn’t mean they know better. They have plenty of young US staff working for them also going by their tryouts. There is great US staff and there is some not so great. Same with Europeans or anywhere else. Give them some time let’s see what they do

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Zero interest in reaching out to them what so eve; loyal to the neighborhood clubs (despite all their warts); was happy to ignore SCA though, until the offending texts started to make their way around parent circle.

Other than that, seem like nice enough folks, but hope our directors aren't slacking off in dealing with them.

Seems like someone is upset that little Suzy doesn't have any interested suitors. The problem here seems to be the parents on your sidelines, not SCA.

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Seems like someone is upset that little Suzy doesn't have any interested suitors. The problem here seems to be the parents on your sidelines, not SCA.

How many sca kids are former god kids? Is that where sca recruited? Thanks

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How many sca kids are former god kids? Is that where sca recruited? Thanks

Not sure. I saw the 2007 roster. They are stacked with small kids who can run and dribble. They stole United and Eastside's 2 best 2008's, couple of kids from WT 2007 DA, and a defender from FC DA team.

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Not sure. I saw the 2007 roster. They are stacked with small kids who can run and dribble. They stole United and Eastside's 2 best 2008's, couple of kids from WT 2007 DA, and a defender from FC DA team.

Yes, they have some former gps players. Plus 3 girls (including an 08) and an 09B on their 07B roster.

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How many sca kids are former god kids? Is that where sca recruited? Thanks

Does "God" mean "GPS" in the above? Whatta typo...

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Yes, they have some former gps players. Plus 3 girls (including an 08) and an 09B on their 07B roster.

They tried playing a bunch of 07 girls on their 06 team and insisted they play in the Premier Division. The record the last two years was an utter disaster. Not sure they won a game in 2 years. I know, I know winning doesn't = development but it's hard to develop when you don't cross midfield.

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GPS was not a member, that is the point.

They became a member once they joined HSC/IFC are you this stupid in real life?

Or is this just your Forum brain?

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That isn't slander. It is literally a link to these SCA coaches profile when they were GPS. It may be damaging, but it isn't false.

Look I wish youth soccer wasn't this way, but GPS v1 showed that it can be downright nasty when dealing with these for profits. Talk to clubs in other states where GPS came in - it was like a locust. Non-profits tried to continue as they always had but families got pulled in by the Bayern/English connection and the fancy marketing materials or got reminded of everything their old club ever did wrong.

GPS failed here, but it did damage along the way. SCA appear to be another flavor of the same ice cream.

The clubs who don't respond end up like the Clackamas Power Rays; highly likable, but don't last. Want my club to be likable and last.

Ahh I always liked the Power Rays - miss them!

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Very true

Being a soccer coach in the UK is like being a basketball or baseball coach here. Any dad can do a halfway-decent job, and there are plenty of volunteers who are experts at the game. Thus--outside the professional academies (which have high standards for who they hire), you can't make a living at it. And the whole edifice of high school sports (which provides another avenue for non-professional-grade coaches to make at least decent money for their time) doesn't really exist.

That's true of many soccer cultures--if everyone knows and teaches the game, you have to be really special to sell that knowledge. Great for the fans and the players, but not so much if you want to become a coach.

One sign that the US will have arrived as a soccer culture, is when foreign-born coaches no longer see the US as an opportunity--because quality coaches are a dime a dozen. This will be bad for coaches, of course, but good for players.

That said, there are plenty of American-born coaches in the various clubs who are just as good as the fellows with accents.

This is very true. There are many British coaches who are absolutely no better or far worse than the coaches here, but get a pass by being British. Many of these young British coaches list they have been professional players in the past, but they try to play on local outdoor teams and can’t make any of the top or 2nd tier men’s teams. They can basically strike a soccer ball, but have no other skills. Now I am not saying you have to be a great player to be a great coach, but if you list you played pro and can’t even play men’s league in Portland there is something fishy. These were not past their prime coaches either, these were coaches in their mid 20’s with extensive “professional playing” backgrounds who couldn’t make some of the local high school teams if they tried.

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Zero interest in reaching out to them what so eve; loyal to the neighborhood clubs (despite all their warts); was happy to ignore SCA though, until the offending texts started to make their way around parent circle.

Other than that, seem like nice enough folks, but hope our directors aren't slacking off in dealing with them.

Zero interest because you’re probably another couch potato eating tubby trash talking parent who is trying to live the life you never had through your kid. Keep to your keyboard you warrior. You’re doing your kids proud.

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Zero interest because you’re probably another couch potato eating tubby trash talking parent who is trying to live the life you never had through your kid. Keep to your keyboard you warrior. You’re doing your kids proud.

Turns out these SCA folks aren't so cheerful deep down.

Have a good evening GPS.

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Turns out these SCA folks aren't so cheerful deep down.

Have a good evening GPS.

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