SCA and OYSA

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No. They are a non profit full member of OYSA already.

ADF is a nonprofit corporation registered with OYSA, with a very tight relationship to a for-profit private training business, which the nonprofit entity and its members (parent) shovel piles of cash at.

The usual suspects here (which, lets be honest, might be full of it) are alleging that SCA is a similar sort of arrangement--a for-profit business which is trying to create or associate with a registered non-profit to satisfy OYSA requirements--and the OYSA is denying their application on the grounds that they aren't really a non-profit.

Neither, kids, is ADF, if you are going to judge a club's application based on their business arrangements.

Other than a grandfather clause, why would TS's venture be told no, but JC's venture be allowed? Is there a meaningful difference in how the two operations function?

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What a thread this is. Are you suggesting that the state of Oregon requires a unique approach to youth development ? Kids are kids. The process is the same at clubs in the US doing it well and all over the world. Complete lack of knowledge on this subject quite clearly.The bigger question is are you happy with the current soccer climate in terms of youth development ? If the answer is yes then that’s great and you should go with that. If not perhaps educate yourself on the why.

Oregon had an organic competitive club model that created top MLS draft picks year after year, even exports abroad, not to mention college All americans.

This was prior to the business model club expansion efforts of the past decade. Oregon needs less of this and a return to normalcy where the top club teams can be formed and given proper coaching. Right now there is nothing special in the area. It's all vanilla and clubs hold on to players for of all things,payroll. That's it. We are not evolving and making things better. No suggestion needed you are not unique, just another turd on the growing pile. Kids that do well in the states in all of our sports, they don't have a specialized club methodology, they have desire, talent, ambition, competitiveness and work on THEIR OWN to get better. They play at high levels and continue to climb. We have no high level in Oregon anymore, no Chance.

In summary Oregon has allowed too many 'clubs' and way too many choices. This obvious Dilution creates apathy, more mediocre teams and produces well below sub par teams at all the alphabet soup start-up clubs. Adding more 'clubs' only makes it worse, not any better.

The bigger question is where is that Thanos guy and the finger snap? Easy solution, right.

You have done nothing in Oregon in the Past and your future in Oregon will be a result of your sales pitch to those cruising the old Mall 205 down the street from SDA fields.
This Homeless shopping cart contingent will listen and rally around your world class methods..Improving their bottle redemptions for sure. You are making a difference!

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ADF is a nonprofit corporation registered with OYSA, with a very tight relationship to a for-profit private training business, which the nonprofit entity and its members (parent) shovel piles of cash at.

The usual suspects here (which, lets be honest, might be full of it) are alleging that SCA is a similar sort of arrangement--a for-profit business which is trying to create or associate with a registered non-profit to satisfy OYSA requirements--and the OYSA is denying their application on the grounds that they aren't really a non-profit.

Neither, kids, is ADF, if you are going to judge a club's application based on their business arrangements.

Other than a grandfather clause, why would TS's venture be told no, but JC's venture be allowed? Is there a meaningful difference in how the two operations function?

There is meaningful similarity.

Both need suckers and dollars.

To execute the Con.

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Oregon had an organic competitive club model that created top MLS draft picks year after year, even exports abroad, not to mention college All americans.

This was prior to the business model club expansion efforts of the past decade. Oregon needs less of this and a return to normalcy where the top club teams can be formed and given proper coaching. Right now there is nothing special in the area. It's all vanilla and clubs hold on to players for of all things,payroll. That's it. We are not evolving and making things better. No suggestion needed you are not unique, just another turd on the growing pile. Kids that do well in the states in all of our sports, they don't have a specialized club methodology, they have desire, talent, ambition, competitiveness and work on THEIR OWN to get better. They play at high levels and continue to climb. We have no high level in Oregon anymore, no Chance.

In summary Oregon has allowed too many 'clubs' and way too many choices. This obvious Dilution creates apathy, more mediocre teams and produces well below sub par teams at all the alphabet soup start-up clubs. Adding more 'clubs' only makes it worse, not any better.

The bigger question is where is that Thanos guy and the finger snap? Easy solution, right.

You have done nothing in Oregon in the Past and your future in Oregon will be a result of your sales pitch to those cruising the old Mall 205 down the street from SDA fields.
This Homeless shopping cart contingent will listen and rally around your world class methods..Improving their bottle redemptions for sure. You are making a difference!

Thanos - classic! Have a name of a new futsal team.

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ADF is a nonprofit corporation registered with OYSA, with a very tight relationship to a for-profit private training business, which the nonprofit entity and its members (parent) shovel piles of cash at.

The usual suspects here (which, lets be honest, might be full of it) are alleging that SCA is a similar sort of arrangement--a for-profit business which is trying to create or associate with a registered non-profit to satisfy OYSA requirements--and the OYSA is denying their application on the grounds that they aren't really a non-profit.

Neither, kids, is ADF, if you are going to judge a club's application based on their business arrangements.

Other than a grandfather clause, why would TS's venture be told no, but JC's venture be allowed? Is there a meaningful difference in how the two operations function?

Don't know on substance, but OYSA has changed - they aren't desperate for new clubs any more, know to hold on to the ones they have they have to see something out of OYSA, so that means enforcing standards that have been on the books for a long time, even if in new contexts.

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Oregon had an organic competitive club model that created top MLS draft picks year after year, even exports abroad, not to mention college All americans.

This was prior to the business model club expansion efforts of the past decade. Oregon needs less of this and a return to normalcy where the top club teams can be formed and given proper coaching. Right now there is nothing special in the area. It's all vanilla and clubs hold on to players for of all things,payroll. That's it. We are not evolving and making things better. No suggestion needed you are not unique, just another turd on the growing pile. Kids that do well in the states in all of our sports, they don't have a specialized club methodology, they have desire, talent, ambition, competitiveness and work on THEIR OWN to get better. They play at high levels and continue to climb. We have no high level in Oregon anymore, no Chance.

In summary Oregon has allowed too many 'clubs' and way too many choices. This obvious Dilution creates apathy, more mediocre teams and produces well below sub par teams at all the alphabet soup start-up clubs. Adding more 'clubs' only makes it worse, not any better.

The bigger question is where is that Thanos guy and the finger snap? Easy solution, right.

You have done nothing in Oregon in the Past and your future in Oregon will be a result of your sales pitch to those cruising the old Mall 205 down the street from SDA fields.
This Homeless shopping cart contingent will listen and rally around your world class methods..Improving their bottle redemptions for sure. You are making a difference!

Now this sounds like a first-rate Cony rant. :)

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Best post ever

Oregon had an organic competitive club model that created top MLS draft picks year after year, even exports abroad, not to mention college All americans.

This was prior to the business model club expansion efforts of the past decade. Oregon needs less of this and a return to normalcy where the top club teams can be formed and given proper coaching. Right now there is nothing special in the area. It's all vanilla and clubs hold on to players for of all things,payroll. That's it. We are not evolving and making things better. No suggestion needed you are not unique, just another turd on the growing pile. Kids that do well in the states in all of our sports, they don't have a specialized club methodology, they have desire, talent, ambition, competitiveness and work on THEIR OWN to get better. They play at high levels and continue to climb. We have no high level in Oregon anymore, no Chance.

In summary Oregon has allowed too many 'clubs' and way too many choices. This obvious Dilution creates apathy, more mediocre teams and produces well below sub par teams at all the alphabet soup start-up clubs. Adding more 'clubs' only makes it worse, not any better.

The bigger question is where is that Thanos guy and the finger snap? Easy solution, right.

You have done nothing in Oregon in the Past and your future in Oregon will be a result of your sales pitch to those cruising the old Mall 205 down the street from SDA fields.
This Homeless shopping cart contingent will listen and rally around your world class methods..Improving their bottle redemptions for sure. You are making a difference!

This post is very very accurate

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This post is very very accurate

Really good points. But unfortunately soccer has evolved in the US and around the world and you have to adjust and go with it and be forward thinking.

If you don't think soccer requires a method in youth development I'm afraid you really are in the minority. Please do some research on the most successful modern academies in the world and ask yourself what your program looks like and then look to implement change. If people do this it will have a real positive impact on the soccer landscape.

Everyone needs to raise the bar not be sceptical about change. Change is positive if done in the correct fashion. And I'm talking about people that are already doing great things also.

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Really good points. But unfortunately soccer has evolved in the US and around the world and you have to adjust and go with it and be forward thinking. If you don't think soccer requires a method in youth development I'm afraid you really are in the minority. Please do some research on the most successful modern academies in the world and ask yourself what your program looks like and then look to implement change. If people do this it will have a real positive impact on the soccer landscape. Everyone needs to raise the bar not be sceptical about change. Change is positive if done in the correct fashion. And I'm talking about people that are already doing great things also.

The concept of a 'methodology' and or 'sport science' has already intersected all sports in our nation over the last 15 years and it's not just in Soccer. These buzz words are not he foundation of team training and coaching , it can be a great new spice to use from cupboard and yes it can be useful to a certain extent.

Nobody is fighting it, please don't get it twisted.

The 'methodology' slogan locally pretends to be some type of panacea or magic bullet designed to cure all that ails are broken state. From my perch it's sadly the latest 'hook' to get the masses of interested parents & players to hopefully buy in and pay to play.

Why do I say that?

Body of work in Oregon. With no evidence of great Oregon club teams from pee wees to college age or any professional players produced, it's merely an idea that has no proof of life or substance in Oregon to speak of at the moment.

What you fail to realize or take into consideration it the best clubs/youth academies in the world pick from thousands of elite kids. who are literally dying to join their pro club and they only select the best of the best for said academy. When those kids don't evolve in their methodology or structure after a few years, guess what they bring in better kids to replace them.

World class Clubs don't take in pay to play participants who can't stand being on b and c teams and promise them a better outcome based on their foriegn methodology designed for the most elite players in other countries.

Putting lipstick on a pig and paying top dollar for it is a foolish trap that American parents fork over cash for a 'chance'.

Go do something here that is worthwhile and cherished or special, guess what people will value your results and your methods will speak for themselves.

Right now it's just more static on the overcrowded airwaves in the 'business' of selling Soccer to the stupid Yanks..

In the end were talking about the nature of competitive Sports and that ain't changing, with a 'chance' slogan.

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The concept of a 'methodology' and or 'sport science' has already intersected all sports in our nation over the last 15 years and it's not just in Soccer. These buzz words are not he foundation of team training and coaching , it can be a great new spice to use from cupboard and yes it can be useful to a certain extent.

Nobody is fighting it, please don't get it twisted.

The 'methodology' slogan locally pretends to be some type of panacea or magic bullet designed to cure all that ails are broken state. From my perch it's sadly the latest 'hook' to get the masses of interested parents & players to hopefully buy in and pay to play.

Why do I say that?

Body of work in Oregon. With no evidence of great Oregon club teams from pee wees to college age or any professional players produced, it's merely an idea that has no proof of life or substance in Oregon to speak of at the moment.

What you fail to realize or take into consideration it the best clubs/youth academies in the world pick from thousands of elite kids. who are literally dying to join their pro club and they only select the best of the best for said academy. When those kids don't evolve in their methodology or structure after a few years, guess what they bring in better kids to replace them.

World class Clubs don't take in pay to play participants who can't stand being on b and c teams and promise them a better outcome based on their foriegn methodology designed for the most elite players in other countries.

Putting lipstick on a pig and paying top dollar for it is a foolish trap that American parents fork over cash for a 'chance'.

Go do something here that is worthwhile and cherished or special, guess what people will value your results and your methods will speak for themselves.

Right now it's just more static on the overcrowded airwaves in the 'business' of selling Soccer to the stupid Yanks..

In the end were talking about the nature of competitive Sports and that ain't changing, with a 'chance' slogan.

I think you need to look at the big picture. What I am saying is if club A,B,C and D all strive to improve the environment for player development in any given state then the local pro academies get the best possible players and on and on it goes right up to national team level.

If your not striving for the above your selling out. Again if your happy with what you have then good for you.


The ignorant insults towards this group are just that. Enjoy the sunshine !

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I think you need to look at the big picture. What I am saying is if club A,B,C and D all strive to improve the environment for player development in any given state then the local pro academies get the best possible players and on and on it goes right up to national team level. If your not striving for the above your selling out. Again if your happy with what you have then good for you. The ignorant insults towards this group are just that. Enjoy the sunshine !

They only appeal to the ignorant which is by design.

Without real quality players and proven coaching, how can any of this work?
Your selling the best practices of Walmart and pretending it's Gucci linen at the register checkout..

Keep the sunshine flowing out your ...

or instead do like real leaders and get it done on the field.

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So this went out today through email and social media.

I think the OP is correct. No league for SCA to play in. The parents that followed these guys will soon learn.

https://home.stage.sportsaffinity.co...20190508/1.pdf

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So this went out today through email and social media.

I think the OP is correct. No league for SCA to play in. The parents that followed these guys will soon learn.

https://home.stage.sportsaffinity.co...20190508/1.pdf

Bridge city also not on that list.

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Bridge city also not on that list.

Neither is Oregon United.

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So this went out today through email and social media.

I think the OP is correct. No league for SCA to play in. The parents that followed these guys will soon learn.

https://home.stage.sportsaffinity.co...20190508/1.pdf

WA Timbers also not listed... guessing this is not a complete list of OYSA clubs