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    #91
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    They can’t join the league because of their status. Moving forward, Amy club the is “for profit” cannot play in OYSA

    Yes heard this as well. Not sure there is any legal grounds for this however. Same thing happened to Florida as was overturned on legal grounds. Too many grey area's with OYSA being partnered with 'for profits' themselves. Be interesting to see this plays out.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Yes heard this as well. Not sure there is any legal grounds for this however. Same thing happened to Florida as was overturned on legal grounds. Too many grey area's with OYSA being partnered with 'for profits' themselves. Be interesting to see this plays out.
      In terms of legal grounds, I believe it is in OYSA's bylaws.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        In terms of legal grounds, I believe it is in OYSA's bylaws.
        For sure it is and they are entitled to do so. I think it's the threatening of clubs non profit status that is not entirely legal. That was the issue in Florida.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          For sure it is and they are entitled to do so. I think it's the threatening of clubs non profit status that is not entirely legal. That was the issue in Florida.
          Huh?

          OYSA is perfectly legally entitled to require that its member clubs be non-profits; this is a long-settled matter.

          OYSA should not be in the business of determining whether a club is nonprofit or not. If it is registered as such by the state, OYSA should not question the state's determination of such.

          That said, I'm not sure what you mean by "threatening a club's nonprofit status". Denying a registered non-profit on the grounds that the coaches makes too much money or have a conflicting business on the side (such as personal training services)? Challenging a club's nonprofit registration with the Secretary of State's office? Has OYSA done either of these, or are they simply following their longstanding policy that for-profit entities may not register clubs? (A policy that has nothing to do with MJ, RH, or any other local soccer bum trying to make a living off of youth soccer).

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            #95
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Huh?

            OYSA is perfectly legally entitled to require that its member clubs be non-profits; this is a long-settled matter.

            OYSA should not be in the business of determining whether a club is nonprofit or not. If it is registered as such by the state, OYSA should not question the state's determination of such.

            That said, I'm not sure what you mean by "threatening a club's nonprofit status". Denying a registered non-profit on the grounds that the coaches makes too much money or have a conflicting business on the side (such as personal training services)? Challenging a club's nonprofit registration with the Secretary of State's office? Has OYSA done either of these, or are they simply following their longstanding policy that for-profit entities may not register clubs? (A policy that has nothing to do with MJ, RH, or any other local soccer bum trying to make a living off of youth soccer).
            I think what the OP was saying is that a non-profit entity could lose their status if they have a “for profit” entity within their club.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I think what the OP was saying is that a non-profit entity could lose their status if they have a “for profit” entity within their club.
              Non profit organizations are designed designed to carry out charitable, educational or civic goals not associated with making a profit.

              This does not mean people work for free. It just means that the overall objective is not designed to make a profit. People who work at non profit still get paid.

              With that in mind, below is a list of the top 10 highest paid CEOs at nonprofits for the most recent complete fiscal year: 2016.

              Anthony R. Tersigni – President/CEO, Ascension Health Alliance
              $13,559,831 in salary. $67,855 in additional “other” pay.
              Patrick Fry – President & CEO, Sutter Health
              $13,161,450 in salary. $279,177 in additional “other” pay.
              Gary Kaplan – Chairman, CEO, Virginia Mason Medical Center
              $11,562,939 in salary. $154,309 in additional “other” pay.
              Laura L. Czelada – CEO, President, Delta Dental Plan of Michigan Inc
              $9,213,107 in salary. $2,693,718 in additional “other” pay.
              Lloyd H. Dean – President/CEO, Dignity Health
              $8,712,814 in salary. $1,547,801 in additional “other” pay.
              Bernard Tyson – Chairman & CEO, Kaiser Foundation Health Plan Inc
              $8,529,498 in salary. $1,509,737 in additional “other” pay.
              Richard Breon – President/CEO, Spectrum Health System
              $7,945,374 in salary. $1,522,626 in additional “other” pay.
              M. Austin – President & CEO, The Aerospace Corporation
              $7,941,497 in salary. $1,824,683 in additional “other” pay.
              David L. Bernd – Director/CEO, Sentara Healthcare
              $7,825,434 in salary. $81,327 in additional “other” pay.
              Kenneth A. Samet – CEO and President, Medstar Health Inc
              $7,675,042 in salary. $76,815 in additional “other” pay.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Non profit organizations are designed designed to carry out charitable, educational or civic goals not associated with making a profit.

                This does not mean people work for free. It just means that the overall objective is not designed to make a profit. People who work at non profit still get paid.

                With that in mind, below is a list of the top 10 highest paid CEOs at nonprofits for the most recent complete fiscal year: 2016.

                Anthony R. Tersigni – President/CEO, Ascension Health Alliance
                $13,559,831 in salary. $67,855 in additional “other” pay.
                Patrick Fry – President & CEO, Sutter Health
                $13,161,450 in salary. $279,177 in additional “other” pay.
                Gary Kaplan – Chairman, CEO, Virginia Mason Medical Center
                $11,562,939 in salary. $154,309 in additional “other” pay.
                Laura L. Czelada – CEO, President, Delta Dental Plan of Michigan Inc
                $9,213,107 in salary. $2,693,718 in additional “other” pay.
                Lloyd H. Dean – President/CEO, Dignity Health
                $8,712,814 in salary. $1,547,801 in additional “other” pay.
                Bernard Tyson – Chairman & CEO, Kaiser Foundation Health Plan Inc
                $8,529,498 in salary. $1,509,737 in additional “other” pay.
                Richard Breon – President/CEO, Spectrum Health System
                $7,945,374 in salary. $1,522,626 in additional “other” pay.
                M. Austin – President & CEO, The Aerospace Corporation
                $7,941,497 in salary. $1,824,683 in additional “other” pay.
                David L. Bernd – Director/CEO, Sentara Healthcare
                $7,825,434 in salary. $81,327 in additional “other” pay.
                Kenneth A. Samet – CEO and President, Medstar Health Inc
                $7,675,042 in salary. $76,815 in additional “other” pay.
                Man Im in the wrong line of work.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Non profit organizations are designed designed to carry out charitable, educational or civic goals not associated with making a profit.

                  This does not mean people work for free. It just means that the overall objective is not designed to make a profit. People who work at non profit still get paid.

                  With that in mind, below is a list of the top 10 highest paid CEOs at nonprofits for the most recent complete fiscal year: 2016.

                  Anthony R. Tersigni – President/CEO, Ascension Health Alliance
                  $13,559,831 in salary. $67,855 in additional “other” pay.
                  Patrick Fry – President & CEO, Sutter Health
                  $13,161,450 in salary. $279,177 in additional “other” pay.
                  Gary Kaplan – Chairman, CEO, Virginia Mason Medical Center
                  $11,562,939 in salary. $154,309 in additional “other” pay.
                  Laura L. Czelada – CEO, President, Delta Dental Plan of Michigan Inc
                  $9,213,107 in salary. $2,693,718 in additional “other” pay.
                  Lloyd H. Dean – President/CEO, Dignity Health
                  $8,712,814 in salary. $1,547,801 in additional “other” pay.
                  Bernard Tyson – Chairman & CEO, Kaiser Foundation Health Plan Inc
                  $8,529,498 in salary. $1,509,737 in additional “other” pay.
                  Richard Breon – President/CEO, Spectrum Health System
                  $7,945,374 in salary. $1,522,626 in additional “other” pay.
                  M. Austin – President & CEO, The Aerospace Corporation
                  $7,941,497 in salary. $1,824,683 in additional “other” pay.
                  David L. Bernd – Director/CEO, Sentara Healthcare
                  $7,825,434 in salary. $81,327 in additional “other” pay.
                  Kenneth A. Samet – CEO and President, Medstar Health Inc
                  $7,675,042 in salary. $76,815 in additional “other” pay.
                  I don't think anyone is denying a non profits right to pay employees etc .... I think the challenge is the complicated mess it can make when not done properly to the detriment of the non profit.

                  https://www.probonopartner.org/wp-co...Unabridged.pdf

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    I don't think anyone is denying a non profits right to pay employees etc .... I think the challenge is the complicated mess it can make when not done properly to the detriment of the non profit.

                    https://www.probonopartner.org/wp-co...Unabridged.pdf
                    Some people mix non profit with volunteer work.

                    Credit Unions are non profit, but there are plenty of paid employees at a Credit Union.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Some people mix non profit with volunteer work.

                      Credit Unions are non profit, but there are plenty of paid employees at a Credit Union.
                      Nobody disagrees with that.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Non profit organizations are designed designed to carry out charitable, educational or civic goals not associated with making a profit.

                        This does not mean people work for free. It just means that the overall objective is not designed to make a profit. People who work at non profit still get paid.

                        With that in mind, below is a list of the top 10 highest paid CEOs at nonprofits for the most recent complete fiscal year: 2016.

                        Anthony R. Tersigni – President/CEO, Ascension Health Alliance
                        $13,559,831 in salary. $67,855 in additional “other” pay.
                        Patrick Fry – President & CEO, Sutter Health
                        $13,161,450 in salary. $279,177 in additional “other” pay.
                        Gary Kaplan – Chairman, CEO, Virginia Mason Medical Center
                        $11,562,939 in salary. $154,309 in additional “other” pay.
                        Laura L. Czelada – CEO, President, Delta Dental Plan of Michigan Inc
                        $9,213,107 in salary. $2,693,718 in additional “other” pay.
                        Lloyd H. Dean – President/CEO, Dignity Health
                        $8,712,814 in salary. $1,547,801 in additional “other” pay.
                        Bernard Tyson – Chairman & CEO, Kaiser Foundation Health Plan Inc
                        $8,529,498 in salary. $1,509,737 in additional “other” pay.
                        Richard Breon – President/CEO, Spectrum Health System
                        $7,945,374 in salary. $1,522,626 in additional “other” pay.
                        M. Austin – President & CEO, The Aerospace Corporation
                        $7,941,497 in salary. $1,824,683 in additional “other” pay.
                        David L. Bernd – Director/CEO, Sentara Healthcare
                        $7,825,434 in salary. $81,327 in additional “other” pay.
                        Kenneth A. Samet – CEO and President, Medstar Health Inc
                        $7,675,042 in salary. $76,815 in additional “other” pay.
                        I guess you can be “non profit” when all the profit goes to management

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                          Bottom line-

                          If you sent your kids to the 17 player tryouts you wasted your time tonight. While these guys might have good intentions they are lost and don’t understand that the market is saturated and that they will not survive. They will not have a place in OYSA

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Bottom line-

                            If you sent your kids to the 17 player tryouts you wasted your time tonight. While these guys might have good intentions they are lost and don’t understand that the market is saturated and that they will not survive. They will not have a place in OYSA

                            17 players? Did you have a bang on the head?

                            What I saw in the flesh was 40+ girls/boys at a very professional set up. Hugely impressive. Please if your insisting on making comments on this forum at least try to remain truthful for your own dignity state. The market is littered in the 'same old' false promises and non development environments. These guys may not be for you and that's absolutely fine but lets at least keep it real.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              17 players? Did you have a bang on the head?

                              What I saw in the flesh was 40+ girls/boys at a very professional set up. Hugely impressive. Please if your insisting on making comments on this forum at least try to remain truthful for your own dignity state. The market is littered in the 'same old' false promises and non development environments. These guys may not be for you and that's absolutely fine but lets at least keep it real.
                              So how many? Boys' and girls' age groups?

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                So how many? Boys' and girls' age groups?
                                2012-2008's tonight and some tomorrow. Just please keep it real. Nothing worse then a liar. Lacks class and TBH is a bit embarrassing.


                                Let's not forget these guys survive and prosper in the most saturated soccer market in the world in London, England through good practice so I'm not sure the Oregon market is too intimidating.

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