Now maybe the Timbers will care of the academy

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“With an investment in MLS academies totaling hundreds of millions of dollars over the past decade, the league announced that its clubs will begin to assert training compensation claims as per FIFA regulations and seek FIFA-administered solidarity payments.

Participation in these two systems allows MLS clubs to continue to invest in elite training for domestic players and provide them opportunities for soccer development free of charge.

READ: Training compensation & solidarity payment FAQs
During the coming weeks, every MLS academy player and his parents or guardians will receive notice of this policy and have the opportunity to join informational sessions conducted by MLS club academies.

Additionally, each player and his parents or guardians will be required to sign an acknowledgement that if the player signs a contract to play professionally for a non-MLS club outside the U.S. or Canada, his MLS club academy will have the right to claim training compensation from that professional club (not from the player or his family) in accordance with the FIFA regulations.

Training Compensation

Consistent with the FIFA Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players, MLS clubs will assert training compensation claims for any MLS academy product who signs his first professional contract with a non-MLS club outside the USA and Canada.

FIFA regulations only dictate that professional clubs pay training compensation when a player signs his first professional contract in a country other than the one in which he was trained. Since FIFA regulations don't mandate domestic payments, MLS clubs will not seek training compensation for players who sign their first professional contract with non-MLS teams in the U.S. or Canada.

Solidarity Payments

MLS clubs will seek solidarity payments when players developed in MLS club academies are transferred, for a fee, between two clubs belonging to different international federations.”

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MLS announced today it will implement solidarity payments. Players developed in MLS academies who sign overseas will cause the team, and perhaps (unclear) youth clubs as well, to receive a solidarity payment, and conversely MLS will pay them to overseas academies when foreign talent is signed.

http://www.espn.com/soccer/major-lea...llow-fifa-rule

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Before we get to excited - at this point this only addresses international signings, not domestic ones.

However, it does provide an incentive for MLS academies to invest.

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Before we get to excited - at this point this only addresses international signings, not domestic ones.

However, it does provide an incentive for MLS academies to invest.

Agreed, but baby steps are still steps. We know it’s all about the money to the mls

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Smells

HOW ABOUT THE PLAYERS DEVELOPED AT NON MLS Academies that get taken to mls academies like the timbers. Are the timbers going to give them funds?

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HOW ABOUT THE PLAYERS DEVELOPED AT NON MLS Academies that get taken to mls academies like the timbers. Are the timbers going to give them funds?

Once you sign with a mls academy you are part of the program regardless of how long you played for a non mls academy.

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Once you sign with a mls academy you are part of the program regardless of how long you played for a non mls academy.

Youth academies will retain the rights to claim training comp if their prospects are signed by overseas club, or solidarity payments if their players are signed by MLS and then sold overseas. (For example, Westside has a claim at FIFA against the Dutch club who signed Rubio Rubin).

However, this policy doesn't apply within the US--MLS academies won't owe US youth clubs anything for players who sign contracts. According to MLS, the FIFA policy only covers international transfers and signings, domestic moves are regulated by the country's federation. And US Soccer, currently, has no policy on domestic signings.

MLS participating probably will make it easier for US youth clubs to get paid...

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Youth academies will retain the rights to claim training comp if their prospects are signed by overseas club, or solidarity payments if their players are signed by MLS and then sold overseas. (For example, Westside has a claim at FIFA against the Dutch club who signed Rubio Rubin).

However, this policy doesn't apply within the US--MLS academies won't owe US youth clubs anything for players who sign contracts. According to MLS, the FIFA policy only covers international transfers and signings, domestic moves are regulated by the country's federation. And US Soccer, currently, has no policy on domestic signings.

MLS participating probably will make it easier for US youth clubs to get paid...

What? Why on Earth does Westside have any claim against that club? What on Earth for? Westside charged that player to play for them. Westside is pay to play. Well, for their lower level teams that is. However, even if Ruben was on a fully subsidized scholarship, Westside is not entitled to squat. They used the kid for wins, and were perfectly aware of what they were getting. Ruben was special and his success is attributed to his talent and hard work. Westside got exactly what it paid for and is not owed anymore. And shame on anyone for even thinking so.

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If there's unven enforcement with regard to youth clubs, players considering Timbers academy will have some decisions to make. If you think you can earn a Timbers contract, or will be valued so highly that the fees won't deter potential overseas suitors, then sign that document.

But if you think you probably won't be signed by Timbers (or don't want to sign for Timbers), and want to try your luck in Europe, then you definitely don't want a training compensation fee hanging around your neck. Smaller teams in Europe will certainly be deterred by having to pay those fees, and they won't take a chance on you. In that case, you're better off at a club left outside this policy.

This could all get very weird.

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What? Why on Earth does Westside have any claim against that club? What on Earth for? Westside charged that player to play for them. Westside is pay to play. Well, for their lower level teams that is. However, even if Ruben was on a fully subsidized scholarship, Westside is not entitled to squat. They used the kid for wins, and were perfectly aware of what they were getting. Ruben was special and his success is attributed to his talent and hard work. Westside got exactly what it paid for and is not owed anymore. And shame on anyone for even thinking so.

Pretty remarkable that you could get so many things wrong in so few words.

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If there's unven enforcement with regard to youth clubs, players considering Timbers academy will have some decisions to make. If you think you can earn a Timbers contract, or will be valued so highly that the fees won't deter potential overseas suitors, then sign that document.

But if you think you probably won't be signed by Timbers (or don't want to sign for Timbers), and want to try your luck in Europe, then you definitely don't want a training compensation fee hanging around your neck. Smaller teams in Europe will certainly be deterred by having to pay those fees, and they won't take a chance on you. In that case, you're better off at a club left outside this policy.

This could all get very weird.

On the opposite side will MLS clubs now be passing on young Caribbean and South American players as well as end of career European players because they do not want to pay solidarity? Could this open more spots in MLS for domestic players?

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If there's unven enforcement with regard to youth clubs, players considering Timbers academy will have some decisions to make. If you think you can earn a Timbers contract, or will be valued so highly that the fees won't deter potential overseas suitors, then sign that document.

But if you think you probably won't be signed by Timbers (or don't want to sign for Timbers), and want to try your luck in Europe, then you definitely don't want a training compensation fee hanging around your neck. Smaller teams in Europe will certainly be deterred by having to pay those fees, and they won't take a chance on you. In that case, you're better off at a club left outside this policy.

This could all get very weird.

Good point. The announcement comes across as so incredibly self-serving for MLS - we will pay international fees (which comes up less often) so we can benefit from international market, but won't do diddly squat in the US.

Maybe it comes back to bite them.

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On the opposite side will MLS clubs now be passing on young Caribbean and South American players as well as end of career European players because they do not want to pay solidarity? Could this open more spots in MLS for domestic players?

Generally, solidarity payments are a drop in the bucket for player transfers. Training compensation (which is incurred when a player signs a new contract) only applies up to age 23.

So if MLS were to sign a Premier Leaguer at the end of his career on a free transfer, no money would be owed to any prior team. If they buy a player from a European club, then solidarity payments would be owed regardless of the player's age, and would be based on the transfer fee.

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What? Why on Earth does Westside have any claim against that club? What on Earth for? Westside charged that player to play for them. Westside is pay to play. Well, for their lower level teams that is. However, even if Ruben was on a fully subsidized scholarship, Westside is not entitled to squat. They used the kid for wins, and were perfectly aware of what they were getting. Ruben was special and his success is attributed to his talent and hard work. Westside got exactly what it paid for and is not owed anymore. And shame on anyone for even thinking so.

Per FIFA rules, Westside is entitled to training compensation. FIFA makes no exemption for pay-to-pay clubs.

Whether that is right or fair, is another question--I tend to think that TC should only apply if training is subsidized--but FIFA makes no such distinction.

And Cony has long been a professional thorn in the side of the soccer establishment. :)

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No money for Westside

Per FIFA rules, Westside is entitled to training compensation. FIFA makes no exemption for pay-to-pay clubs.

Whether that is right or fair, is another question--I tend to think that TC should only apply if training is subsidized--but FIFA makes no such distinction.

And Cony has long been a professional thorn in the side of the soccer establishment. :)

The rule is only for MLS academy teams not for Westside. NO money for you Westside.