Crossfire Premier leaving GDA, All in ECNL

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All the top SoCal girls left DA and are in ECNL now.

Wrong. You don’t know Southern California soccer well if you don’t know about Legends and So Cal Blues. Both in DA among the many other clubs down there that have players much better than here.

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Wrong. You don’t know Southern California soccer well if you don’t know about Legends and So Cal Blues. Both in DA among the many other clubs down there that have players much better than here.

Top two clubs in South Cal are Beach FC and Legends FC, non ECNL club.

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Wrong. You don’t know Southern California soccer well if you don’t know about Legends and So Cal Blues. Both in DA among the many other clubs down there that have players much better than here.

SoCal clubs still have teams in DA but gutted quality due to player defections. SoCal Blues have all best players in ECNL.

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Top two clubs in South Cal are Beach FC and Legends FC, non ECNL club.

Funny, Legends was the other name being thrown around as on their way out of DA, and why do you think OM left Beach? Could it be because they are also leaving DA?

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SoCal clubs still have teams in DA but gutted quality due to player defections. SoCal Blues have all best players in ECNL.

The girls DA will always have a place if they have the playing time guarantee. Everyone needs an option. Competition is good.

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SoCal clubs still have teams in DA but gutted quality due to player defections. SoCal Blues have all best players in ECNL.

This is 100% not true.

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The girls DA will always have a place if they have the playing time guarantee. Everyone needs an option. Competition is good.

I think this is the best feature of the Thorns. Every kid should get the chance to start. Other clubs should adopt this.

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This is 100% not true.

Maybe not, but it's 99.9% true.

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SoCal clubs still have teams in DA but gutted quality due to player defections. SoCal Blues have all best players in ECNL.

Huge pressure for SoCal clubs to go all in with ECNL. Girls not happy about missing high school sports.

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Huge pressure for SoCal clubs to go all in with ECNL. Girls not happy about missing high school sports.

This is true and it's important to remember that Southern California is not like Oregon in that players down there have a myriad of choices for high level soccer. If a club doesn't deliver what its members want, those members have so many equally good options. So the clubs down there are pressured to deliver a product that the majority of players want and parents support. As opposed to Oregon where Thorns GDA is the only game in town (the only game for hundreds of miles if the game is GDA), and can set and break whatever confusing, weird, and arbitrary rules they want.

The irony is that by having two ECNL clubs, one GDA club, and some higher level OYSA teams like Vancouver 02's, CFC 01's, and GPS 03's, the groundwork is in place for Oregon to provide this same level of pressure on clubs, albeit on a smaller scale. Parents DO have the ability to find another high level soccer experience if they aren't happy with things at the current club.

The problem in Oregon is that instead of we consumers seeing this competition as a positive way to hold everyone's feet to the fire and get a better product, we allow our own insecurities to compel us to tear down the other products in rabid and irrational defense of the path our own kid is on. All because we are deep down afraid that we made the wrong decision. Man we are messed up.

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This is true and it's important to remember that Southern California is not like Oregon in that players down there have a myriad of choices for high level soccer. If a club doesn't deliver what its members want, those members have so many equally good options. So the clubs down there are pressured to deliver a product that the majority of players want and parents support. As opposed to Oregon where Thorns GDA is the only game in town (the only game for hundreds of miles if the game is GDA), and can set and break whatever confusing, weird, and arbitrary rules they want.

The irony is that by having two ECNL clubs, one GDA club, and some higher level OYSA teams like Vancouver 02's, CFC 01's, and GPS 03's, the groundwork is in place for Oregon to provide this same level of pressure on clubs, albeit on a smaller scale. Parents DO have the ability to find another high level soccer experience if they aren't happy with things at the current club.

The problem in Oregon is that instead of we consumers seeing this competition as a positive way to hold everyone's feet to the fire and get a better product, we allow our own insecurities to compel us to tear down the other products in rabid and irrational defense of the path our own kid is on. All because we are deep down afraid that we made the wrong decision. Man we are messed up.

I don't think that it is bad in Oregon. It is diluted as heck but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Most clubs would like to bring in more top players and compete well out of state but that really isn't happening these days. I do think that we are still producing good soccer players at a lot of different venues and I don't think it is more or less than in the past. Just a different configuration.

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Top two clubs in South Cal are Beach FC and Legends FC, non ECNL club.

They are good clubs,but far from the top in South Cal

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They are good clubs,but far from the top in South Cal

Wow. How dumb can you be?

Every single year it was legends vs so cal blues in the national title.

Every single year.

Legends C teams are better than Oregon’s best

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Huge pressure for SoCal clubs to go all in with ECNL. Girls not happy about missing high school sports.

US Soccer will figure this out. Give them 5-7 years.

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This is true and it's important to remember that Southern California is not like Oregon in that players down there have a myriad of choices for high level soccer. If a club doesn't deliver what its members want, those members have so many equally good options. So the clubs down there are pressured to deliver a product that the majority of players want and parents support. As opposed to Oregon where Thorns GDA is the only game in town (the only game for hundreds of miles if the game is GDA), and can set and break whatever confusing, weird, and arbitrary rules they want.

The irony is that by having two ECNL clubs, one GDA club, and some higher level OYSA teams like Vancouver 02's, CFC 01's, and GPS 03's, the groundwork is in place for Oregon to provide this same level of pressure on clubs, albeit on a smaller scale. Parents DO have the ability to find another high level soccer experience if they aren't happy with things at the current club.

The problem in Oregon is that instead of we consumers seeing this competition as a positive way to hold everyone's feet to the fire and get a better product, we allow our own insecurities to compel us to tear down the other products in rabid and irrational defense of the path our own kid is on. All because we are deep down afraid that we made the wrong decision. Man we are messed up.

Yes we are messed up. Competition is good and helps all the girls in Oregon.