Timbers Academy elite?

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Interesting post on the 05 page. Curious to see if any real answers are provided....

Since there are a few TA honks in this forum, apparently--tell us what is different about the Timbers Academy? Other than the teams they play:

* Where do you train? Prov Park? King St. in Beaverton? Other fields?
* Do you train with the older TA teams? With the Timbers' adult teams--even the first team?
* How many hours a week in training? Is this the same schedule at U14 that it is for U15, U17, or U19?
* How many coaches at training? Just one? Multiple? Do players ever stand around, waiting their turn to complete drills?
* What technology or equipment (beyond the standard balls, cones, pop-up goals, and other stuff that anyone can buy at Dick's or Tursi's) is used to assist with training?
* Does the coaching staff measure and record things--footspeed, shot accuracy, pass accuracy, etc, or does the coach depend on his "eyeballs" when evaluating players?
* Does everyone do the same drills? Is instruction customized for particular players--"you need to work on this", "you need to work on that"?
* How much is "fitness" (strength, agility, endurance, and other activities without the ball) part of the curriculum? Do players (particularly at older age groups; U14s may not benefit so much) have access to the weight room, etc?
* Are players given "homework"--stuff to work on outside of training? Is it checked if they accomplish these tasks, and are their consequences if they don't (other than the nebulous threat of "if you don't keep up, you might get cut some day")?
* What sort of feedback do players get? Video review? Written evaluations? Verbal "attaboys" or "need some work"?
* How is futsal part of the curriculum? Team views on cross-training (basketball or other sports that don't involve kicking a ball).

Likewise for the other clubs: How does your team's training sessions compare to the above quesitons?

I'd love to hear the answer to those. For most local clubs (WashT is the only one I've heard that seems to do better), the standard seems to be a single coach (maybe one assistant), in some local park, with no tech whatsoever, doing monolithic drills, with nobody recording anything.

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Interesting post on the 05 page. Curious to see if any real answers are provided....

Since there are a few TA honks in this forum, apparently--tell us what is different about the Timbers Academy? Other than the teams they play:

* Where do you train? Prov Park? King St. in Beaverton? Other fields?
* Do you train with the older TA teams? With the Timbers' adult teams--even the first team?
* How many hours a week in training? Is this the same schedule at U14 that it is for U15, U17, or U19?
* How many coaches at training? Just one? Multiple? Do players ever stand around, waiting their turn to complete drills?
* What technology or equipment (beyond the standard balls, cones, pop-up goals, and other stuff that anyone can buy at Dick's or Tursi's) is used to assist with training?
* Does the coaching staff measure and record things--footspeed, shot accuracy, pass accuracy, etc, or does the coach depend on his "eyeballs" when evaluating players?
* Does everyone do the same drills? Is instruction customized for particular players--"you need to work on this", "you need to work on that"?
* How much is "fitness" (strength, agility, endurance, and other activities without the ball) part of the curriculum? Do players (particularly at older age groups; U14s may not benefit so much) have access to the weight room, etc?
* Are players given "homework"--stuff to work on outside of training? Is it checked if they accomplish these tasks, and are their consequences if they don't (other than the nebulous threat of "if you don't keep up, you might get cut some day")?
* What sort of feedback do players get? Video review? Written evaluations? Verbal "attaboys" or "need some work"?
* How is futsal part of the curriculum? Team views on cross-training (basketball or other sports that don't involve kicking a ball).

Likewise for the other clubs: How does your team's training sessions compare to the above quesitons?

I'd love to hear the answer to those. For most local clubs (WashT is the only one I've heard that seems to do better), the standard seems to be a single coach (maybe one assistant), in some local park, with no tech whatsoever, doing monolithic drills, with nobody recording anything.

My son was with W T F C until he made the TA last year. I thought they did an outstanding job in preparing my son. A few things that stand out-

Personal performance plan (called something else I think).
Two evaluations each year that was video recorded.
Strength and conditioning training
Movement training.
Mandatory Journal entries after each practice and games.
Turned in report cards.
Four day a week practice having 1/2 to a full field all the time.

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My son was with W T F C until he made the TA last year. I thought they did an outstanding job in preparing my son. A few things that stand out-

Personal performance plan (called something else I think).
Two evaluations each year that was video recorded.
Strength and conditioning training
Movement training.
Mandatory Journal entries after each practice and games.
Turned in report cards.
Four day a week practice having 1/2 to a full field all the time.

You can take the mandatory journal after each practice and shove that in the overkill folder.

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Some answere for Westside's DA. Speaking only for the 05 team here.

* Where do you train? Prov Park? King St. in Beaverton? Other fields?

Various fields around Beaverton. MVCP, THPRD, PCC, Powerlines, Conestoga.

* Do you train with the older TA teams? With the Timbers' adult teams--even the first team?

Sometimes scrimmage against 04s, as well as 04 CU girls team. Sometimes also train with 07 DA also coached by Steven Evans. (If training against older kids is beneficial, so is training down, even if the benefit then is to the younger kids).

* How many hours a week in training? Is this the same schedule at U14 that it is for U15, U17, or U19?

Generally 3 practices a week during summer; may move to more during fall.

* How many coaches at training? Just one? Multiple? Do players ever stand around, waiting their turn to complete drills?

Sometimes just one, sometimes another will show. Evans is the team's primary coach, not just a guy with a license who delegates to assistants. Yes, waiting around is a problem sometimes, but he does keep the boys busy as much as possible.

* What technology or equipment (beyond the standard balls, cones, pop-up goals, and other stuff that anyone can buy at Dick's or Tursi's) is used to assist with training?

Not much.

* Does the coaching staff measure and record things--footspeed, shot accuracy, pass accuracy, etc, or does the coach depend on his "eyeballs" when evaluating players?

Seems to be mainly eyeballs, but it's hard to be sure.

* Does everyone do the same drills? Is instruction customized for particular players--"you need to work on this", "you need to work on that"?

Generally, the same drills.

* How much is "fitness" (strength, agility, endurance, and other activities without the ball) part of the curriculum? Do players (particularly at older age groups; U14s may not benefit so much) have access to the weight room, etc?

Westside loves its fitness training; this is generally at separate sessions (zoo training, beach training), with focus both on endurance and agility. No weight training at this age, the club has no facility for that.

* Are players given "homework"--stuff to work on outside of training? Is it checked if they accomplish these tasks, and are their consequences if they don't (other than the nebulous threat of "if you don't keep up, you might get cut some day")?

Yes, not sure, not sure.

* What sort of feedback do players get? Video review? Written evaluations? Verbal "attaboys" or "need some work"?

Depends on the coach. John Bain, for instance, does do written evals; other coaches don't. Supposedly we will be getting more video this season as part of the DA program, but that will come from the game videos taken as part of the DA.

* How is futsal part of the curriculum? Team views on cross-training (basketball or other sports that don't involve kicking a ball).

WT is very heavily into futsal; not into cross-training with other sports. Club does permit (and is mostly neutral towards) participation in other sports.

Overall, SE appears to be a good coach. He's in many ways the opposite personality-wise of Cony, and also lacks Cony's vast experience (being someone just out of college and a career with T2), but the boys seem to like him, and he has communicated to parents his "plan" for the season. He also doesn't tolerate nonsense at practices and ensures a professional environment.

Next club to respond???

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Some answere for Westside's DA. Speaking only for the 05 team here.

* Where do you train? Prov Park? King St. in Beaverton? Other fields?

Various fields around Beaverton. MVCP, THPRD, PCC, Powerlines, Conestoga.

* Do you train with the older TA teams? With the Timbers' adult teams--even the first team?

Sometimes scrimmage against 04s, as well as 04 CU girls team. Sometimes also train with 07 DA also coached by Steven Evans. (If training against older kids is beneficial, so is training down, even if the benefit then is to the younger kids).

* How many hours a week in training? Is this the same schedule at U14 that it is for U15, U17, or U19?

Generally 3 practices a week during summer; may move to more during fall.

* How many coaches at training? Just one? Multiple? Do players ever stand around, waiting their turn to complete drills?

Sometimes just one, sometimes another will show. Evans is the team's primary coach, not just a guy with a license who delegates to assistants. Yes, waiting around is a problem sometimes, but he does keep the boys busy as much as possible.

* What technology or equipment (beyond the standard balls, cones, pop-up goals, and other stuff that anyone can buy at Dick's or Tursi's) is used to assist with training?

Not much.

* Does the coaching staff measure and record things--footspeed, shot accuracy, pass accuracy, etc, or does the coach depend on his "eyeballs" when evaluating players?

Seems to be mainly eyeballs, but it's hard to be sure.

* Does everyone do the same drills? Is instruction customized for particular players--"you need to work on this", "you need to work on that"?

Generally, the same drills.

* How much is "fitness" (strength, agility, endurance, and other activities without the ball) part of the curriculum? Do players (particularly at older age groups; U14s may not benefit so much) have access to the weight room, etc?

Westside loves its fitness training; this is generally at separate sessions (zoo training, beach training), with focus both on endurance and agility. No weight training at this age, the club has no facility for that.

* Are players given "homework"--stuff to work on outside of training? Is it checked if they accomplish these tasks, and are their consequences if they don't (other than the nebulous threat of "if you don't keep up, you might get cut some day")?

Yes, not sure, not sure.

* What sort of feedback do players get? Video review? Written evaluations? Verbal "attaboys" or "need some work"?

Depends on the coach. John Bain, for instance, does do written evals; other coaches don't. Supposedly we will be getting more video this season as part of the DA program, but that will come from the game videos taken as part of the DA.

* How is futsal part of the curriculum? Team views on cross-training (basketball or other sports that don't involve kicking a ball).

WT is very heavily into futsal; not into cross-training with other sports. Club does permit (and is mostly neutral towards) participation in other sports.

Overall, SE appears to be a good coach. He's in many ways the opposite personality-wise of Cony, and also lacks Cony's vast experience (being someone just out of college and a career with T2), but the boys seem to like him, and he has communicated to parents his "plan" for the season. He also doesn't tolerate nonsense at practices and ensures a professional environment.

Next club to respond???

Timbers Academy?? Nothing??

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Some answere for Westside's DA. Speaking only for the 05 team here.

* Where do you train? Prov Park? King St. in Beaverton? Other fields?

Various fields around Beaverton. MVCP, THPRD, PCC, Powerlines, Conestoga.

* Do you train with the older TA teams? With the Timbers' adult teams--even the first team?

Sometimes scrimmage against 04s, as well as 04 CU girls team. Sometimes also train with 07 DA also coached by Steven Evans. (If training against older kids is beneficial, so is training down, even if the benefit then is to the younger kids).

* How many hours a week in training? Is this the same schedule at U14 that it is for U15, U17, or U19?

Generally 3 practices a week during summer; may move to more during fall.

* How many coaches at training? Just one? Multiple? Do players ever stand around, waiting their turn to complete drills?

Sometimes just one, sometimes another will show. Evans is the team's primary coach, not just a guy with a license who delegates to assistants. Yes, waiting around is a problem sometimes, but he does keep the boys busy as much as possible.

* What technology or equipment (beyond the standard balls, cones, pop-up goals, and other stuff that anyone can buy at Dick's or Tursi's) is used to assist with training?

Not much.

* Does the coaching staff measure and record things--footspeed, shot accuracy, pass accuracy, etc, or does the coach depend on his "eyeballs" when evaluating players?

Seems to be mainly eyeballs, but it's hard to be sure.

* Does everyone do the same drills? Is instruction customized for particular players--"you need to work on this", "you need to work on that"?

Generally, the same drills.

* How much is "fitness" (strength, agility, endurance, and other activities without the ball) part of the curriculum? Do players (particularly at older age groups; U14s may not benefit so much) have access to the weight room, etc?

Westside loves its fitness training; this is generally at separate sessions (zoo training, beach training), with focus both on endurance and agility. No weight training at this age, the club has no facility for that.

* Are players given "homework"--stuff to work on outside of training? Is it checked if they accomplish these tasks, and are their consequences if they don't (other than the nebulous threat of "if you don't keep up, you might get cut some day")?

Yes, not sure, not sure.

* What sort of feedback do players get? Video review? Written evaluations? Verbal "attaboys" or "need some work"?

Depends on the coach. John Bain, for instance, does do written evals; other coaches don't. Supposedly we will be getting more video this season as part of the DA program, but that will come from the game videos taken as part of the DA.

* How is futsal part of the curriculum? Team views on cross-training (basketball or other sports that don't involve kicking a ball).

WT is very heavily into futsal; not into cross-training with other sports. Club does permit (and is mostly neutral towards) participation in other sports.

Overall, SE appears to be a good coach. He's in many ways the opposite personality-wise of Cony, and also lacks Cony's vast experience (being someone just out of college and a career with T2), but the boys seem to like him, and he has communicated to parents his "plan" for the season. He also doesn't tolerate nonsense at practices and ensures a professional environment.

Next club to respond???

such a good robot !!!

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such a good robot !!!

What does this even mean? Instead of making dumb (Although in your narrow, stupid little mind, I am sure you think they are witty) remarks, why don't you answer the question dumass? We already know the answers, and your very silence reaffirms the initial point. TA is not superior in any way. Please do not say "how cheap" it is either. That very point is contradictory to what you have been preaching on this site about "how important it is to put your DS in the right environment." So, to summarize, the benefits of TA would be....a patch, daddy Starbucks footing the bill for your welfare recipient, I mean scholarship awarded, er...I mean uber elite athletic child; and of course, good old Brazillian coaching....from the porta potties....at half time. Got it.