Which local teams are nationally relevant?

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Shame on you for even whispering that this is “starting to turn in to the 01 thread”. NOTHING will ever approach that mark again. The 01 thread was a greatness beyond compare.

In the trenches for years, that thread will never be touched. Epic would be an understatement.

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Definitely none in Oregon.

Not great quality in general.

CU 03g

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CU 03g

Just ask em, they are the #3 team in the 'Nation' of US club soccer.

Not sure what 'Nation' it is, but it's what they claim.

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Just ask em, they are the #3 team in the 'Nation' of US club soccer.

Not sure what 'Nation' it is, but it's what they claim.

No silly. 03 means 2003 birth year.

They are decent but not great team.

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Here comes a rant from a GPS dad. I find it sad that so many threads become attacks on GPS and others. Not sad for GPS or those being attacked, sad for the way their minds work and kids they influence. It is ironic that last year before GPS had achieved National League and USYS National Championships, people said that rankings don't matter. I personally don't care if your coach or parents go into a game with rankings points in mind. We've had experiences like that and it didn't work for us. I am certain that qualifying for the National Championships will go on my kid's resume. I am just as certain she will not have her team rankings on that same resume, regardless of the debate over which rankings site is best.

I read about facts on talking soccer. The fact is that the GPS girls have won when it counts to get where they are. They have developed into a better/deeper team than when they were ranked much higher. I am perfectly happy with the feedback and looks that my daughter has received. It is great that she and her teammates have already qualified to do the same thing again next year. It is all good with us. It makes me wonder why others can't say the same and be secure with their own kid or team. My daughter spends a lot of time traveling and working out, probably as much as any kid around. That time would be wasted if I spent it teaching her to focus on other people's flaws. My goal is for her to win in life. You might have your own definition of what that means, I have mine. Here are another couple of facts. The girls know who the best players are. The college coaches know who the best players are. What are you trying to achieve by arguing about it here?

To negatively attack others only appeals to the lowest common denominator. If you think it will bring girls to your club, it will, but not the highest quality individuals. In fact, much the opposite. If you think that attacking others will make you feel better about your coaching or your parenting decisions, it may. But it will also expose the fact that you are lacking self-esteem or character.

Why am I spending my time posting here? There are a couple reasons. I hope that if parents from GPS are reading this, they will understand how good they have it and ignore the noise. If someone that has been negative about GPS or others reads it, I hope they find a way to focus on being positive. After all, the true measure of this won't be known until these kids finish their careers. If they aren't well-adjusted, their careers may be over sooner than they should have been.

This is way too long. Summarize please.

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Ranking source is youthsoccerrankings.us, which seems to be comprehensive, covers the entire country (unlike LPR, which is higher quality but limited scope), and isn't based mainly on participation in the sponsor's own tournament offerings (cough gotsoccer cough).

A "nationally relevant" team is any team ranked in the top 100 for their age group. A low standard, I know, but we gotta grade on the curve.

08B:
Seattle United Copa (8)
Crossfire Premier A (24)
WFPC Black (45)
Westside Timbers Copa Red (79)
(Note: Eastside Red might rank but doesn't appear to have participated in enough events to be included. Also note that OYSA, at least, doesn't publish scores for this age group, so that might affect things).

07B:
No Oregon or Washington teams were in the top 100.

06B::
3RCS Black (15)
Seattle Celtic Green (59)
Crossfire Premier DA (95)
CWS Navy (97)
(Note: DA for this age group last year did not publish match results).

05B:
WPFC (15)
PacNW (71)

04B:
Crossfire Premier (30)
Crossfire Yakima (46)

03B:
Seattle United Copa (6)
PacNW Maroon( 44)
Washington Rush (63)
NWU (78)

02B:
Central WA SA Sounders Navy Cuevas (35)
Eastside Timbers Red (62)
South Tacoma United Chelsea (82)

01B:
Seattle Sounders Academy (5, and DA champions)
WFPC Black (30)
Westside Timbers Copa Red (47)
United SC Aguilitas (91)

00B:
FC Portland Navy (12)
WPFC Black (15)
Seattle United Copa (17)
Eastside FC Red (64)

99B:
Crossfire Preimer (12)
Seattle United Copa (21)
WFPC Black (41)
Wenatchee Valley United (45)
Seattle Sounders Academy (84) (not sure I buy this--Sounders no doubt have rougher competition in the USSDA league than the RPL teams above them in these rankings. Timbers Academy doesn't even show up, but I'm certain they are likewise better than local club teams)

08G:
WFPC Black (21)
Crossfire Premier A (24)

07G:
Seattle United Cpa (31)
Crossfire Premier A (32)
WFPC Black (40)

06G:
Eastside FC Reign pre-academy (42)
WPFC Black A (78)
Seattle United Copa (88)

05G:
Crossfire United (48)
Crossfire Premier ECNL (77)
(none of the local GDA teams showed up at this age group, so this comparison isn't possible)

04G:
PacNW ECNL (47)
Reign Academy (57)
Crossfire United (70; for some reason CU has two entries).
Crossfire Premier (82)
WPFC ECNL (93)

03G:
Crossfire United(3)
PacNW ECNL (57)
Reign Academy (54)
WPFC ECNL (63)
Crossfire Premier ECNL (89)
(GPS is at #133--which sounds too low for a team going to USYS nationals)

02G:
Crossfire United (32)
PacNW Maroon A (55)
PacNW ECNL (72)
Spokane SC Rave (84)
Crossfire Premier ECNL (96)
(FC Portland ECNL barely misses the cut, coming in at 103).

01G:
WFPC ECNL (12)
Crossfire Premier DA (28)
PacNW Maroon (42)
Crossfire United (58)
Spokane Shadow Sounders Rave (63)
Eastside FC Reign (99)
(Thorns do poorly at this age group, coming in at 228)

00G:
Greater Seattle Surf A (25)
ISC Gunners A (56)
Washington Rush (76)

99G:
Crossfire Premier (6)
Eastaide FC Reign (14)
PacNW SC Maroon A (22)
PacNW ECNL (55)
Thorns Academy (84)
Rogue Valley Timbers Red (100)

Moral of the story: Quality of Oregon clubs seems to be inversely proportional to distance from THPRD. But we knew that already. :)

How long did it take you to type that up and follow up question: why?

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Here comes a rant from a GPS dad. I find it sad that so many threads become attacks on GPS and others. Not sad for GPS or those being attacked, sad for the way their minds work and kids they influence. It is ironic that last year before GPS had achieved National League and USYS National Championships, people said that rankings don't matter. I personally don't care if your coach or parents go into a game with rankings points in mind. We've had experiences like that and it didn't work for us. I am certain that qualifying for the National Championships will go on my kid's resume. I am just as certain she will not have her team rankings on that same resume, regardless of the debate over which rankings site is best.

I read about facts on talking soccer. The fact is that the GPS girls have won when it counts to get where they are. They have developed into a better/deeper team than when they were ranked much higher. I am perfectly happy with the feedback and looks that my daughter has received. It is great that she and her teammates have already qualified to do the same thing again next year. It is all good with us. It makes me wonder why others can't say the same and be secure with their own kid or team. My daughter spends a lot of time traveling and working out, probably as much as any kid around. That time would be wasted if I spent it teaching her to focus on other people's flaws. My goal is for her to win in life. You might have your own definition of what that means, I have mine. Here are another couple of facts. The girls know who the best players are. The college coaches know who the best players are. What are you trying to achieve by arguing about it here?

To negatively attack others only appeals to the lowest common denominator. If you think it will bring girls to your club, it will, but not the highest quality individuals. In fact, much the opposite. If you think that attacking others will make you feel better about your coaching or your parenting decisions, it may. But it will also expose the fact that you are lacking self-esteem or character.

Why am I spending my time posting here? There are a couple reasons. I hope that if parents from GPS are reading this, they will understand how good they have it and ignore the noise. If someone that has been negative about GPS or others reads it, I hope they find a way to focus on being positive. After all, the true measure of this won't be known until these kids finish their careers. If they aren't well-adjusted, their careers may be over sooner than they should have been.

In summary
Without any Oregon club presence in top flight youth platform US DA, no local club can measure how they stack up with the best.

All they can do is say we won or competed in the last cake walk we entered.

For this, we are proud and grateful to spend disposable income on travel.

Now let us be, OK

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In summary
Without any Oregon club presence in top flight youth platform US DA, no local club can measure how they stack up with the best.

All they can do is say we won or competed in the last cake walk we entered.

For this, we are proud and grateful to spend disposable income on travel.

Now let us be, OK

Looks like the Timbers noise machine is out this morning!

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Looks like the Timbers noise machine is out this morning!

Sounds that ring true

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Sounds that ring true

Timbers all "one path/ring to rule them all"

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Sounds that ring true

Timbers all "one path/ring to rule them all"

http://31.media.tumblr.com/86ee19a46...aq7yo6_500.gif

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It isn’t the arrogance of the parents, but the arrogance and lies from your coach that bothers people.

100% agree, although the parents are a little arrogant but that's just the nature of social media. All I ask is that you please stop with the false narrative that this team has existed since all these girls played rec soccer together and that MJ gets a bad rap. That's false, and he has the reputation that he's earned. For example, many GPS defenders complain about some of your players switching clubs and getting recruited away, and yet I have personally watched MJ recruit players on the sidelines during state cup and at summer community events (including my own DD) while peddling his FutPro device. He recruits players, he runs up scores, and he burns bridges wherever he goes. Those are facts. He may be a good coach, but he's not a person that has a good reputation.

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The girls DA is an unattractive product imo. No high school and not the highest level of competition. Plus now dumped on Westside.

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The girls DA is an unattractive product imo. No high school and not the highest level of competition. Plus now dumped on Westside.

Its funny because ive heard both sides. The DA side would say they do travel and play other DA clubs and big tournaments (A friends daughter was out a few months ago in north carolina playing with the DA). And the reason they stayed part of it was because they really liked the coach, the daughter didn't miss HS soccer (which for any serious soccer player, HS soccer is just screwing around) and the fact it was 2K (i think thats the current price) and no other fees. So it turned out to be cheaper than doing a normal club (1500+ travel, coach travel fees, tournament fees, uniforms, ect). Yes it bums them out that they don't get to see all their kids games, but that part is the same as with the ECNL. In the end DA is a much cheaper version of ECNL. Thats probably the quickest easiest way to explain it to someone.

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The girls DA is an unattractive product imo. No high school and not the highest level of competition. Plus now dumped on Westside.

The cost has went up an lot. $2,950 + $125 + $1,200 for showcases means its pushing four thousand three hundred dollars ($4,300.00) per year.

It's not a bad option if that is all you have.

The most intriguing thing is the playing time guarantee. If your kid struggles to get starts at their local club team this might be an attractive option to look at.