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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSounds more like they were repeating the words of the most distinguished coach in the WCC from the SF bay area, Jerry has said this many times to Oregon families who bring their kids for visits: 'Oregon clubs don't belong in any type of National League, not enough talent in Oregon to compete on a National platform (USYS/US Club)' Which cannot be argued.
He has built rosters for the last 3 decades with players from some of the best players from some of the best clubs in the United States, he didn't start a USYS chant or ODP chant or FWRL chant or CYSA chant or US Club Soccer league chant in the office.
College Coaches instead talk about hotbed areas across the country that produce the top prospects, they mention great club coaches that produce talent year in and year out they also mention prodigious clubs that supply the top programs players they talk in concrete examples not an acronym of a club league. Oregon clubs are never mentioned by any D1 coach, many coaches don't even know where Oregon is on a Map let alone consider our local talent as prospects.
It is, what it is.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSounds more like they were repeating the words of the most distinguished coach in the WCC from the SF bay area, Jerry has said this many times to Oregon families who bring their kids for visits: 'Oregon clubs don't belong in any type of National League, not enough talent in Oregon to compete on a National platform (USYS/US Club)' Which cannot be argued.
He has built rosters for the last 3 decades with players from some of the best players from some of the best clubs in the United States, he didn't start a USYS chant or ODP chant or FWRL chant or CYSA chant or US Club Soccer league chant in the office.
College Coaches instead talk about hotbed areas across the country that produce the top prospects, they mention great club coaches that produce talent year in and year out they also mention prodigious clubs that supply the top programs players they talk in concrete examples not an acronym of a club league. Oregon clubs are never mentioned by any D1 coach, many coaches don't even know where Oregon is on a Map let alone consider our local talent as prospects.
It is, what it is.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThanks for the laugh. FCP and CU are the ONLY clubs putting dozens of girls into college soccer anymore. Thornz Asylum = ZERO. Timbers Alliance = essentially ZERO. GPS Oregon = ZERO.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThanks for the laugh. FCP and CU are the ONLY clubs putting dozens of girls into college soccer anymore. Thornz Asylum = ZERO. Timbers Alliance = essentially ZERO. GPS Oregon = ZERO.
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Logic can be tricky, especially for those with a bias
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYour confirmation bias is showing again. Only ECNL parents could possibly post what I posted. Wrong. I'm a TA parent.
Your M.O. is called:
Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position, while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position. It is a kind of fallacy of selective attention, the most common example of which is the confirmation bias. Cherry picking may be committed intentionally or unintentionally. This fallacy is a major problem in public debate.
The term is based on the perceived process of harvesting fruit, such as cherries. The picker would be expected to only select the ripest and healthiest fruits. An observer who only sees the selected fruit may thus wrongly conclude that most, or even all, of the tree's fruit is in a likewise good condition. This can also give a false impression of the quality of the fruit (since it is only a sample and is not a representative sample). (Use of ECNL league)
Cherry picking has a negative connotation as it directly suppresses evidence that could lead to a more complete picture.A concept sometimes confused with cherry picking is the idea of gathering only the fruit that is easy to harvest, while ignoring other fruit that is higher up on the tree and thus more difficult to obtain (see low-hanging fruit).
Cherry picking can be found in many logical fallacies. For example, the "fallacy of anecdotal evidence" tends to overlook large amounts of data in favor of that known personally, "selective use of evidence" rejects material unfavorable to an argument, while a false dichotomy picks only two options when more are available. Cherry picking can refer to the selection of data or data sets so a study or survey will give desired, predictable results which may be misleading or even completely contrary to reality.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTimbers Alliance the two clubs I am familiar with put a combined 18 Girls into college soccer this year. Some very good schools.
Crickets....
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf you consider Clark College as a "very good school". List the names of all these Alliance girls going to "very good schools" if they really exist.
Crickets....
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou keep wanting to use small sample 'league' as the the basis your entire premise. Which is actually evidence of a confirmation bias, which is actually ironic given your penchant to throw it at others, it's truy funny stuff..
Your M.O. is called:
Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position, while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position. It is a kind of fallacy of selective attention, the most common example of which is the confirmation bias. Cherry picking may be committed intentionally or unintentionally. This fallacy is a major problem in public debate.
The term is based on the perceived process of harvesting fruit, such as cherries. The picker would be expected to only select the ripest and healthiest fruits. An observer who only sees the selected fruit may thus wrongly conclude that most, or even all, of the tree's fruit is in a likewise good condition. This can also give a false impression of the quality of the fruit (since it is only a sample and is not a representative sample). (Use of ECNL league)
Cherry picking has a negative connotation as it directly suppresses evidence that could lead to a more complete picture.A concept sometimes confused with cherry picking is the idea of gathering only the fruit that is easy to harvest, while ignoring other fruit that is higher up on the tree and thus more difficult to obtain (see low-hanging fruit).
Cherry picking can be found in many logical fallacies. For example, the "fallacy of anecdotal evidence" tends to overlook large amounts of data in favor of that known personally, "selective use of evidence" rejects material unfavorable to an argument, while a false dichotomy picks only two options when more are available. Cherry picking can refer to the selection of data or data sets so a study or survey will give desired, predictable results which may be misleading or even completely contrary to reality.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIn just over a year's time the DA will have it's first season under it's belt with direct linkage to US Soccer's Nat teams coaching staff and scouts. College coaches will swarm to their showcases and national team camps as always. They (DA) will continue to grow and get stronger for decades and will maintain the US Soccer Development Academy platform as the top shelf for girls/youth soccer development and competition. Local clubs may or may not be part of a Timbers Alliance in the future but the DA will always be here and funded for the best talent. All the best.
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