1st world considerations

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You are the only dinosaur or caveman in the current youth offerings.

Present a comparison going way back so us younger ones can comprehend what you mean by "stone age."

We get that you don't like the Timbers or Thorns. What have these programs personally done to you?

^^ kook-aid drinking lemming caveman ^^

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You are the only dinosaur or caveman in the current youth offerings.

Present a comparison going way back so us younger ones can comprehend what you mean by "stone age."

We get that you don't like the Timbers or Thorns. What have these programs personally done to you?

Charge excessive fees to local non-profits to fund it, as a start.

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At least you got the message. That's all that matters.

No. You don't have a message that matters. When you verbally attack people with negative name labels then you lose credibility.

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You are the only dinosaur or caveman in the current youth offerings.

Present a comparison going way back so us younger ones can comprehend what you mean by "stone age."

We get that you don't like the Timbers or Thorns. What have these programs personally done to you?

1) Ruined ODP in Oregon.

2) Siphoned the best players off the OYSA teams then put those players on a super team right back in the OYSA league to play against their old teams.

3) Lied about this process and said that 100% of the TA teams fully supported it (they don't).

4) Charge $900 for state cup with a two game guarantee.

Give me a few minutes I can think of more.

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^^ kook-aid drinking lemming caveman ^^

When people cannot offer legitimate conversation then they become weak and resort to name calling.

In your case it appears that you have no legitimate explanation and examples to support your stance so you have nothing left but name calling.

It's much like a fist fight. When one person runs out of words, the person becomes weak and resorts to physical attack. We counseled fifth and sixth graders about the strength in conversation to work through issues. Maybe you should consider sharing your specific issues. Time for you to grow up.

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1) Ruined ODP in Oregon.

2) Siphoned the best players off the OYSA teams then put those players on a super team right back in the OYSA league to play against their old teams.

3) Lied about this process and said that 100% of the TA teams fully supported it (they don't).

4) Charge $900 for state cup with a two game guarantee.

Give me a few minutes I can think of more.

1) How is ODP "ruined"?
2) But y'all keep telling us Thorns Academy (which is what I assume you are talking about) is terrible, just terrible--now they are a behemoth crushing OYSA?
3) When did they say that, and which TA teams are on record as objecting?
4) I'll grant you this, but hardly the destruction of youth soccer.

If the DA is "siphoning off top talent" from local clubs, then what about ECNL? When it's ECNL doing it, not only do y'all boast about it, but y'all loudly proclaim the OYSA clubs to be "rec", and imply that if a girl is still doing OYSA it's because she isn't any good. Granted, ECNL doesn't play in OYSA competitions, but still--you don't seem to mind it when it's FC or CU stripmining other clubs of their top talent. It's only when the shoe is on the other foot do you scream bloody murder.

In short: You want your club on the top of the local pyramid, and don't want the Timbers to knock you off your perch. That's all this is about, and we know it.

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1) ruined odp in oregon.

2) siphoned the best players off the oysa teams then put those players on a super team right back in the oysa league to play against their old teams.

3) lied about this process and said that 100% of the ta teams fully supported it (they don't).

4) charge $900 for state cup with a two game guarantee.

Give me a few minutes i can think of more.

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1) Ruined ODP in Oregon.

2) Siphoned the best players off the OYSA teams then put those players on a super team right back in the OYSA league to play against their old teams.

3) Lied about this process and said that 100% of the TA teams fully supported it (they don't).

4) Charge $900 for state cup with a two game guarantee.

Give me a few minutes I can think of more.

How was ODP ruined? ODP has always been an issue even when Conways were in charge.

Who and how were "best players" "siphoned' away from their teams? Players choose to tryout for clubs or academies. Players leave teams and clubs every single year.

Are you claiming that players are forced to play on teams they don't want to be on?

Who are you to determine who can or can't play in OYSA leagues?

What do you mean by TA teams support? What proof of lies, support and how you are personally privy to information and communication? Do you have letters, emails?

Charge $900 for 2 games. This can happen in state cup and it happens at tournaments. It is a frustrating and expensive reality, but it is the reality.

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1) How is ODP "ruined"?
2) But y'all keep telling us Thorns Academy (which is what I assume you are talking about) is terrible, just terrible--now they are a behemoth crushing OYSA?
3) When did they say that, and which TA teams are on record as objecting?
4) I'll grant you this, but hardly the destruction of youth soccer.

If the DA is "siphoning off top talent" from local clubs, then what about ECNL? When it's ECNL doing it, not only do y'all boast about it, but y'all loudly proclaim the OYSA clubs to be "rec", and imply that if a girl is still doing OYSA it's because she isn't any good. Granted, ECNL doesn't play in OYSA competitions, but still--you don't seem to mind it when it's FC or CU stripmining other clubs of their top talent. It's only when the shoe is on the other foot do you scream bloody murder.

In short: You want your club on the top of the local pyramid, and don't want the Timbers to knock you off your perch. That's all this is about, and we know it.

Yeah Baby! So true.

I support all options for players and am sick of trash talk. The reality is that tryouts are around the corner and thus an uptick in use of rhetorical devices and B.S.

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What do you mean by TA teams support? What proof of lies, support and how you are personally privy to information and communication? Do you have letters, emails?

Charge $900 for 2 games. This can happen in state cup and it happens at tournaments. It is a frustrating and expensive reality, but it is the reality.

On the first 1, it was in the Thorns marketing materials; some clubs complained and it has sense been corrected.

However, it should have never been said in the first place.

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Charge excessive fees to local non-profits to fund it, as a start.

Fees go up every year no matter what you sign up for in sports.

Are you with a club that doesn't raise its fees? Has your team signed up for tournaments that never raise their fees?

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On the first 1, it was in the Thorns marketing materials; some clubs complained and it has sense been corrected.

However, it should have never been said in the first place.

Correct what? Confused. Corrected about playing in OYSA league?
What original verbage in marketing materials should not have been said?

Thanks.

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On the first 1, it was in the Thorns marketing materials; some clubs complained and it has sense been corrected.

However, it should have never been said in the first place.

This doesn't make sense. The Thorns Academy doesn't have anything to do with clubs.

If you are one person reading marketing materials then what does this have to do with clubs? Are you saying that clubs didn't want Thorns Academy teams in OYSA?

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Correct what? Confused. Corrected about playing in OYSA league?
What original verbage in marketing materials should not have been said?

Thanks.

There was Thorns marketing materials that indicated all OYSA clubs supported sending their top players to the Thorns Academy.

It was a false statement.

Some clubs complained to OYSA who addressed it with the Thorns.

The Thorns' pulled it down.

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No. You don't have a message that matters. When you verbally attack people with negative name labels then you lose credibility.

Not part of this sting, but I read it. wasn't able to read any verbal attacks from the poster just a narrative about their life experience and the snowflake generation of children whose parents want them to buy a dress that can't be outclassed, even it's cheaper in price..

Credibility on a forum like this is a stretch, stretching the narrative presented whereby you conjure up verbal attacks in the written prose, is a metaphysical impossibility. Are you hearing voices, by chance.