Time to step up ECNL

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Everyone knows most ECNL kids still pay for privates.. heck half of them are still training with MJ Tate. At GDA the program should provide enough development and in the right way that the private sessions should no longer be necessary.

Players 7-23 on GDA rosters will want privates to try to get better for more playing time. Players 7-23 don't benefit from little playing time and zero soccer outside of GDA trainings, including privates not allowed, needed or not.

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The best soccer players might not all care about HS soccer but many of them are also stars in other sports. Giving up HS & all other soccer, all other sports & missing lots of school isn't worth it for many of the best. Don't forget, the true best can do whatever they want (Ecnl or Local club) and will still get the same recruitment. The best don't need to give up everything to play GDA.

No (6A) Oregonian Girl that was all-state in (6A) Soccer has ever been All-State in Basketball, Softball or Track in the last decade. The best girl's in soccer were playing year round soccer and couldn't compete for the HS in the winter and spring sports.

The Basketball coaches wish club soccer would be abolished as the girls opt to play local club soccer over HS B ball.

Sell crazy somewhere else. Simply false.

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The best soccer players might not all care about HS soccer but many of them are also stars in other sports. Giving up HS & all other soccer, all other sports & missing lots of school isn't worth it for many of the best. Don't forget, the true best can do whatever they want (Ecnl or Local club) and will still get the same recruitment. The best don't need to give up everything to play GDA.

Absolutely true.

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No (6A) Oregonian Girl that was all-state in (6A) Soccer has ever been All-State in Basketball, Softball or Track in the last decade. The best girl's in soccer were playing year round soccer and couldn't compete for the HS in the winter and spring sports.

The Basketball coaches wish club soccer would be abolished as the girls opt to play local club soccer over HS B ball.

Sell crazy somewhere else. Simply false.

Salem superstar (5A soccer player of the year as a freshman) was a varsity player on state finalists Silverton, and was listed as a top freshman to watch by Oregon Live. She's also a darn good track athlete. But thorns academy will put an end to all that.

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Absolutely true.

With no evidence to support it's absolutely true in your imagination.

List the All-Stars at the 6A level in Basketball & Softball that are also All-State in Soccer.

The best of the best girls in Soccer don't play the other sports in HS, they don't have the time or interest. It is what it, is.

All-league HS girls soccer players aren't what the GDA is after, those girls will continue to play whatever they want when they want. Which is the way it should be.

The top 1% of girls is what the GDA is after that's enough to fill the squads they field.

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Thorns has been a poor program to date. Many kids won't have anything to do with them for that reason. Then you take high school sports off the table. That removes a large number of top players. Next the required four trainings a week and traveling 15 times a year which requires missing school and vacations. Lack of homework time will take away serious students. Not much left after all those filters.

Get your facts straight. Thorns will be training 3x week. 24 games over ten months. Twice or Three times to Seattle. Four times to CA by plane, and playing double headers. One by plane to Utah. All the rest home games.

ECNL parents, please calm down and stop spreading misinformation.

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The best soccer players might not all care about HS soccer but many of them are also stars in other sports. Giving up HS & all other soccer, all other sports & missing lots of school isn't worth it for many of the best. Don't forget, the true best can do whatever they want (Ecnl or Local club) and will still get the same recruitment. The best don't need to give up everything to play GDA.

The true superstars don't need GDA but some may want it. Certainly not all due to the huge sacrifices. How many decades ago since the last Oregon raised girl made the USWNT or even went pro to a NWSL team? Guarantee you, if your dd is the next Mal Pugh, she can play HS soccer, basketball, etc and she'll be just fine. If your dd isn't top elite level, no amount of GDA or Ecnl is going to get her past the CA top players, even if she plays 24/7/365. She can stay dedicated at her local club and end up at Portland State or UO or wherever she would've if she'd played GDA/ECNL. Play hard but enjoy life. The USWNT isn't in any of our girls future. Study more and college options & scholarships will be increased more.

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Salem superstar (5A soccer player of the year as a freshman) was a varsity player on state finalists Silverton, and was listed as a top freshman to watch by Oregon Live. She's also a darn good track athlete. But thorns academy will put an end to all that.

Anything lower than 6A is not a discussion.

Small schools need their athletes to turn out for all sports, especially girls mostly rural schools don't have a stockpile of female athletes.

Just list the 6A girls that are STARS on other HS Sports teams, not just on the squad.

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The true superstars don't need GDA but some may want it. Certainly not all due to the huge sacrifices. How many decades ago since the last Oregon raised girl made the USWNT or even went pro to a NWSL team? Guarantee you, if your dd is the next Mal Pugh, she can play HS soccer, basketball, etc and she'll be just fine. If your dd isn't top elite level, no amount of GDA or Ecnl is going to get her past the CA top players, even if she plays 24/7/365. She can stay dedicated at her local club and end up at Portland State or UO or wherever she would've if she'd played GDA/ECNL. Play hard but enjoy life. The USWNT isn't in any of our girls future. Study more and college options & scholarships will be increased more.

And what's so great about GDA is they have a huge focus on college placement which Mike Smith went over with parents last night..plus only pay $2k a year for soccer!

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Anything lower than 6A is not a discussion.

Small schools need their athletes to turn out for all sports, especially girls mostly rural schools don't have a stockpile of female athletes.

Just list the 6A girls that are STARS on other HS Sports teams, not just on the squad.

Ok. Academy girl from Eugene was 6a first team as a freshman and also a legit star in track and cross country. But I guess she will be hanging up her running spikes.

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Ok. Academy girl from Eugene was 6a first team as a freshman and also a legit star in track and cross country. But I guess she will be hanging up her running spikes.

. State Track & Field isn't til the end of this month so it's impossible to be all-state as a freshman in T&F.

Not on this list--6A 1st all state 2016
Sydney Collins, Jesuit, junior
Allie Day, Grant, senior
Olivia Dendinger, Glencoe, senior
MJ Erving, Sheldon, senior
Kaillen Fried, Sherwood, senior
Lindsay Howard, Sherwood, senior
Kiki Kjeldsen, Barlow, senior
Sarah Nasson, Lincoln, senior
Rose Pflug, Sunset, senior
Sarah Teubner, Sprague, senior
Eden White, Central Catholic, junior

GK: Bridgette Skiba, Sunset, junior

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The true superstars don't need GDA but some may want it. Certainly not all due to the huge sacrifices. How many decades ago since the last Oregon raised girl made the USWNT or even went pro to a NWSL team? Guarantee you, if your dd is the next Mal Pugh, she can play HS soccer, basketball, etc and she'll be just fine. If your dd isn't top elite level, no amount of GDA or Ecnl is going to get her past the CA top players, even if she plays 24/7/365. She can stay dedicated at her local club and end up at Portland State or UO or wherever she would've if she'd played GDA/ECNL. Play hard but enjoy life. The USWNT isn't in any of our girls future. Study more and college options & scholarships will be increased more.

^^^^ this

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Ok. Academy girl from Eugene was 6a first team as a freshman and also a legit star in track and cross country. But I guess she will be hanging up her running spikes.

None of these girls are all-state 1st team in Soccer.

Basketball 6A All-State

N'Dea Flye
Oregon City
Senior
First team


Nina Radford
Grant
Senior
First team



Hannah Washington
South Medford
Senior
First team


Evina Westbrook
South Salem
Senior
First team


Bendu Yeaney
St. Mary's Academy
Senior
First team



Evina Westbrook
South Salem
Player of the year

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Thorns has been a poor program to date. Many kids won't have anything to do with them for that reason. Then you take high school sports off the table. That removes a large number of top players. Next the required four trainings a week and traveling 15 times a year which requires missing school and vacations. Lack of homework time will take away serious students. Not much left after all those filters.

the thorns say they are ignoring the US Soccer DA rule that requires 4 trainings per week minimum. also apparently ignoring the US Soccer rule prohibiting a try out fee.

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ECNL got 40 college signing this year.
Other TA clubs got about 40.
Thorns no comment.

The thorns are a pro team. The path to pros.