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    #46
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    So ECNL is having its tryouts first week in May, three weeks before their own season is over, just so they can try and commit players before GDA tryouts? They do realize that their top players aren't committing to anything until after GDA tryouts.
    1. I don't like Ecnl.

    2. You are sounding a lot like them now. No one trusts Ecnl parents anymore. Your lies are only going to hurt your propaganda

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      #47
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      So ECNL is having its tryouts first week in May, three weeks before their own season is over, just so they can try and commit players before GDA tryouts? They do realize that their top players aren't committing to anything until after GDA tryouts.
      ECNL season doesn't end until July 31. ECNL rules allow clubs to have tryouts whenever they want, even multiple times throughout the year if they want. The only thing they can't do is "sign" a player from another ECNL club before May 1 each year.

      And the ECNL clubs are not in the least worried about Thorns GDA. All the top players will be at ECNL tryouts and 100% of those selected will commit within a couple of days of tryouts. GDA will be left with the "B" teamers, the dreamers, and the pine riders, as usual. And that's all they should need playing in the rec-level GDA.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        So ECNL is having its tryouts first week in May, three weeks before their own season is over, just so they can try and commit players before GDA tryouts? They do realize that their top players aren't committing to anything until after GDA tryouts.
        I'm a TA parent. I am not at all concerned about ECNL teams doing tryouts the same time as last year. I am greatly concerned about GDA mandating when WE can hold our tryouts, for the express purpose of holding academy tryouts first and locking in the players they want before those players even get to consider another team.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          It's funny, there are no tryout costs for FC or CU because the fear is if you make the team you will be on the hook for 10K for the season. Anything they can do to get you in the door.
          Think time share get together.

          NWSL Portland Thorns are subsidizing upwards of 8K to 10K per player, if they don't have a tryout fee then 1000's of girls will show up. Smart move to only have the serious player tryout.
          Of course the Thornz have to heavily subsidize the GDA. If they didn't, no one would even look at it. You always have to give away what has no value. At the same time, people will gladly pay for ECNL has it has proven to be of very high value.

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            #50
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Exactly. This Peregrine bait and switch nonsense is a tired and ridiculous argument. No matter how the pie is sliced, a significant portion of Oregon soccer fees paid for a charter bus to take 38 girls and coaches to Canada for the weekend. That is indisputable. Thorns families have officially become (mostly) high income welfare recipients. Does that feel good? Are you grateful? Because you don't sound grateful. You sound like an arrogant tool.
            More free trips for Thorns Academy paid for by the rest of us poor schmucks? Many of us are already struggling to pay for our own kids soccer. At least ECNL kids pay their own way.

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              #51
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              More free trips for Thorns Academy paid for by the rest of us poor schmucks? Many of us are already struggling to pay for our own kids soccer. At least ECNL kids pay their own way.
              You have been paying for the boys Academy for years. Decide to only gripe when girls are offered equal opportunity? Sick.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I'm a TA parent. I am not at all concerned about ECNL teams doing tryouts the same time as last year. I am greatly concerned about GDA mandating when WE can hold our tryouts, for the express purpose of holding academy tryouts first and locking in the players they want before those players even get to consider another team.
                Geez, never even considered this issue. If a group of ecnl'rs come and displace current Thorns kids, what then? Tryouts for ECNL are over. Whatta mess.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Geez, never even considered this issue. If a group of ecnl'rs come and displace current Thorns kids, what then? Tryouts for ECNL are over. Whatta mess.
                  Heard most current Thorns players are guaranteed spots. Won't be many openings on the existing teams.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Heard most current Thorns players are guaranteed spots. Won't be many openings on the existing teams.
                    Guaranteed spots and playing time will be two different deals. If ECNL kids come they will be playing. Roster may have to be 35 to accommodate Thorns kids. Also comp gets real now. With no infusion of talent GDA will get hammered

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      More free trips for Thorns Academy paid for by the rest of us poor schmucks? Many of us are already struggling to pay for our own kids soccer. At least ECNL kids pay their own way.
                      You are trying to craft a connection that doesn't exsist, (OYSA services revenue/profit directly linked to Timbers Academy/Thorns Academy expense).

                      Peregrine's revenue for the naming rights of Providence Park could cover all the expenses for the DA programs. Is same kind of logic you are foolishly throwing out.

                      If the only money that flowed into the Peregrine business model was OYSA services revenue than you could make at least an argument for your theory, but that's not the case Peregrine has 10's of millions of dollars of revenue coming into it's business each year, GW may use all the profit from the OYSA income to pay the salaries of MS & EL each year, who knows.

                      That's the whole point, this connection while convenient for you, has no proof to support it.

                      Just hoping it sticks reeks of desperation from the marginalized local clubs who thought joining the ECNL would be the answer. Now they are faced with competing with a fully funded DA & GDA programs that will continue to attract many more players than their clubs 10K price tag for ostensibly the same product. A national league platform.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        You are trying to craft a connection that doesn't exsist, (OYSA services revenue/profit directly linked to Timbers Academy/Thorns Academy expense).

                        Peregrine's revenue for the naming rights of Providence Park could cover all the expenses for the DA programs. Is same kind of logic you are foolishly throwing out.

                        If the only money that flowed into the Peregrine business model was OYSA services revenue than you could make at least an argument for your theory, but that's not the case Peregrine has 10's of millions of dollars of revenue coming into it's business each year, GW may use all the profit from the OYSA income to pay the salaries of MS & EL each year, who knows.

                        That's the whole point, this connection while convenient for you, has no proof to support it.

                        Just hoping it sticks reeks of desperation from the marginalized local clubs who thought joining the ECNL would be the answer. Now they are faced with competing with a fully funded DA & GDA programs that will continue to attract many more players than their clubs 10K price tag for ostensibly the same product. A national league platform.
                        You can post this on as many threads as you want but it doesn't make it true, and it doesn't make you anything but a Thorns welfare recipient. You're welcome.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Heard most current Thorns players are guaranteed spots. Won't be many openings on the existing teams.
                          Was that guarantee issued by the same bozo who promised a summer showcase tournament and delivered the Beaverton cup? If so I would be concerned.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            You can post this on as many threads as you want but it doesn't make it true, and it doesn't make you anything but a Thorns welfare recipient. You're welcome.
                            Thank Peregrine for having so many diverse revenue streams and an acute business acumen that allows them to field and fund DA programs for Oregon and SW Washington.

                            That's all the truth that we get to know.

                            As for the OYSA handing over services to Peregrine, that's an issue between you the (OYSA) member and the OYSA, but you want to scream at 3rd party (Peregrine) who runs a huge business independent of OYSA,

                            Your beef should be the OYSA which is understandable and an intelligent target.

                            Peregrine could care less if you have an issue with their revenue streams, they offer a product and people are free to choose if they want it.

                            OYSA on the other hand got locked into a deal with Peregrine by their own doing representing your interests. What are you going to do to change it, bitch at Peregrine?

                            That's why nothing changes, with idiots like you screaming at the wrong party.

                            Circle of death in full effect.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Heard most current Thorns players are guaranteed spots. Won't be many openings on the existing teams.
                              This is just garbage. They are going to take the best available players, just like an ECNL, OYSA or any other competitive team.

                              Now, it may be that the best players who attend tryouts are the current Academy players if other players outside the current teams aren't interested. I guess we will see who shows up for tryouts.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Thank Peregrine for having so many diverse revenue streams and an acute business acumen that allows them to field and fund DA programs for Oregon and SW Washington. As for the OYSA handing over services to Peregrine, that's an issue between you the (OYSA) member and the OYSA...Peregrine could care less if you have an issue with their revenue streams, they offer a product and people are free to choose if they want it.

                                OYSA on the other hand got locked into a deal with Peregrine by their own doing representing your interests. What are you going to do to change it, bitch at Peregrine?

                                That's why nothing changes, with idiots like you screaming at the wrong party.

                                Circle of death in full effect.
                                I shrunk it up for you. Oh I think OYSA is a mess too. But Peregrine is the one raking it in from thousands of families, many who are poor. What are they supposed to do? Drop soccer? Nope. So they have to keep feeding their money to the for profit Peregrine which filters to the GDA program.

                                Peregrine could drop club fees, but instead they give it to elite families. OYSA is just simply dumb and should go under.

                                The whole thing should ETHICALLY be run by a nonprofit and because it's not, GDA families should be humble and grateful, and drop their cocky, entitled, self-deserving attitudes.

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