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I am an FC boys parent for several years.

While it is a pool system. The boys do train together their A team (navy) and B team (white). They rarely move up or down during the year. a few players will. Which is not bad. My son was one who did because the couches thought more play time would help him develop.

Some B team parents will not allow their kids to move to navy because it means added expense of out of PNW travel. White usually only plays in OR,WA area.

most of the movement UP is at the end of the year to fill holes for the state cup due to injuries or players leaving.

The comment about players going to college more from FC is simply due to the fact more kids on FC come from mid to upper class families.

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I am an FC boys parent for several years.

While it is a pool system. The boys do train together their A team (navy) and B team (white). They rarely move up or down during the year. a few players will. Which is not bad. My son was one who did because the couches thought more play time would help him develop.

Some B team parents will not allow their kids to move to navy because it means added expense of out of PNW travel. White usually only plays in OR,WA area.

most of the movement UP is at the end of the year to fill holes for the state cup due to injuries or players leaving.

The comment about players going to college more from FC is simply due to the fact more kids on FC come from mid to upper class families.

So you're saying that all the kids at Alliance clubs come from lower class families? Looking at parent sideline behavior, you might be right.

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So you're saying that all the kids at Alliance clubs come from lower class families? Looking at parent sideline behavior, you might be right.

Certainly not all. No one made a stupid generalization like that. However, FCP likely does have a higher percentage of higher socio-economic parents. This will affect college outcomes in their favor. The good news is soccer can be a great equalizer for college.

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Certainly not all. No one made a stupid generalization like that. However, FCP likely does have a higher percentage of higher socio-economic parents. This will affect college outcomes in their favor. The good news is soccer can be a great equalizer for college.

In theory, but doesn't seem to work out that way in reality.

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So you're saying that all the kids at Alliance clubs come from lower class families? Looking at parent sideline behavior, you might be right.

Ignoring the comment about sideline behavior--FC has a few obnoxious fans I can think of, but most parents I've no problem with--FC (on the boys side) seems to be a shade whiter than many of the Alliance clubs. WT, for instance, does look for talent heavily within the Latino community, and has many Latino players and coaches. (There are a lot of kids from lower-income families playing for WT as well). ET has a reputation for doing this as well; I can't comment about the other Timbers Alliance clubs, being less familiar with them.

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Certainly not all. No one made a stupid generalization like that. However, FCP likely does have a higher percentage of higher socio-economic parents. This will affect college outcomes in their favor. The good news is soccer can be a great equalizer for college.

Just had to follow up a stupid generalizing comment with one of your own I see. Stupid is as stupid does apparently.

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Ignoring the comment about sideline behavior--FC has a few obnoxious fans I can think of, but most parents I've no problem with--FC (on the boys side) seems to be a shade whiter than many of the Alliance clubs. WT, for instance, does look for talent heavily within the Latino community, and has many Latino players and coaches. (There are a lot of kids from lower-income families playing for WT as well). ET has a reputation for doing this as well; I can't comment about the other Timbers Alliance clubs, being less familiar with them.

Oh I can think of one set of thug parents at FC on the boys side. It's ok since their kids play thug ball. One boy in a particular, at say age U15, perhaps a bit Asian in background, is a particular thug with a thug dad. Just look up his cards in the league standings. He stands out. Nothing new for him however. The kid and dad have been at it for years.

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Ignoring the comment about sideline behavior--FC has a few obnoxious fans I can think of, but most parents I've no problem with--FC (on the boys side) seems to be a shade whiter than many of the Alliance clubs. WT, for instance, does look for talent heavily within the Latino community, and has many Latino players and coaches. (There are a lot of kids from lower-income families playing for WT as well). ET has a reputation for doing this as well; I can't comment about the other Timbers Alliance clubs, being less familiar with them.

OMG! Your information regarding reputations is off-base when you say what these clubs are looking for in players.

How are you so familiar with these clubs?
How does WT "look for talent heavily within the Latino community?"
Are you attending tryouts to reference your ethnic and racial profiles, or are you basing your knowledge on game observations?

"Whiter" and "Latino"- out of line here. What does any of this have to do with "sideline" behavior? How do you know the economic status of families?

Way out of line.

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White Upper Middle Class Professional Parent who also happens to be Hispanic and Latino
-Just ask the census recorders

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OMG! Your information regarding reputations is off-base when you say what these clubs are looking for in players.

How are you so familiar with these clubs?
How does WT "look for talent heavily within the Latino community?"
Are you attending tryouts to reference your ethnic and racial profiles, or are you basing your knowledge on game observations?

"Whiter" and "Latino"- out of line here. What does any of this have to do with "sideline" behavior? How do you know the economic status of families?

Way out of line.

Sign me,

White Upper Middle Class Professional Parent who also happens to be Hispanic and Latino
-Just ask the census recorders

Let me clarify:

1) Neither race, class, nor culture have diddly-squat to do with sideline behavior. I never suggested that, sorry if you thought otherwise.

2) Westside does have a large Latino presence in the club, both in the coaching staff and in the players. The club and its staff are fairly colorblind--they care how good you are, not what you look like or where you come from.

3) Westside actively sponsors (and will recruit players from) the various Washington County futsal gyms and Latino leagues. There are lots of these, with some quite good talent. Go to Hillsboro Indoor Soccer, and the club logos on the wall are ADF and Westside. Westside is also quite generous with scholarships for players who have trouble paying for club soccer. Club fees aren't the only impediment to poor kids playing for OYSA clubs, but it's a big one. That said, Westside is happy to take talent from anywhere, but the club--from the director on down--is very much of the opinion that soccer should not be a boutique sport.

4) I'm familiar with Westside because that's where the DS plays. I know less about Eastside, not having any kids there, but they seem to also have a well-established presence in the Latino community on the other side of town. Marco Farfan, the Timbers new left back who was promoted to the first team, played youth soccer at Eastside. That kid who recently won the sueno also played for Eastside (can't recall his name).

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Westside sounds like a great club. However, do they give scholarships to all playing levels of poorer kids or just the superstars? Not knocking them, they are already doing more for outreach than most but curious.