Assistant referees?

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Went to several 9v9 games over the weekend, some premier, some not. The biggest change from last year, aside from the no-heading rule, is the absence of assistant referees in any of the matches I watched. Offside enforcement was of course particularly spotty--a center ref, particularly in a premier match where the ball moves faster than any ref can run, simply is unlikely to be in a position to know if a player is offside. I saw several obvious offside calls missed, and one "false positive" resulting in a goal being called back.

In one of the matches, the poor CR (who I don't blame at all; his job is tough enough even with assistants) was having all sorts of abuse hurled at him by a few obnoxious fans of one team to boot.

Is this an intentional change made by OYSA for silly reasons (saving money)?

Or are there simply a shortage of officials to work the games?

hopefully one day we will catch up to the rest of the planet that kicks our arse at this sport.

Most countries don't call offsides until U13. And even then they let the play finish and bring it back.

U9 and U10 for sure at 7v7 should not have an offsides rule. It opens up the game and creates more scoring opportunities.

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hopefully one day we will catch up to the rest of the planet that kicks our arse at this sport.

Most countries don't call offsides until U13. And even then they let the play finish and bring it back.

U9 and U10 for sure at 7v7 should not have an offsides rule. It opens up the game and creates more scoring opportunities.

I don't really know what other countries do at this age, but have wondered about just forgetting about offsides at the younger ages. If we can't put A/Rs out there, it is almost impossible to get right from an "adult" perspective.

There is enough for kids to figure out at the younger ages and offsides can come later.

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US Club soccer is not a worthy or viable option to serve all the kids but for some parents of girls who are chasing tales its been an option, now those girls have become marginized with the advent of the GDA.

GDA hasn't marginalized anything other than itself so far. Clubs are getting lots of feedback from their members already that NOBODY wants the GDA. Just watch how many more clubs pull out of the GDA over the next year.

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I don't really know what other countries do at this age, but have wondered about just forgetting about offsides at the younger ages. If we can't put A/Rs out there, it is almost impossible to get right from an "adult" perspective.

There is enough for kids to figure out at the younger ages and offsides can come later.

Eliminating offsides only makes bootball more tempting. Anything we can do to reduce the amount of Timbers Alliance bootball, the better.

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OYSA must sanction any league that meets requirements. They aren't the gatekeepers, they are the sanctioning body. Just like they must admit clubs that meet requirements.

If you aren't one of their cronies, they make it as difficult as possible and are known to be more stringent with people who haven't assimilated.

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OYSA must sanction any league that meets requirements. They aren't the gatekeepers, they are the sanctioning body. Just like they must admit clubs that meet requirements.

If you aren't one of their cronies, they make it as difficult as possible and are known to be more stringent with people who haven't assimilated.

Being admitted for membership in OYSA and being allowed to play in the Timbers league are 2 very different things. Timbers has final say on who plays in their league and who doesn't. Of course, as they are in it only for the huge money, they let everybody in.

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1). Younger, HS aged Assistant Refs will NOT make a call. They will always defer to the more senior Center Ref. Several times I have seen blatant off-side and the young 16-17 year old AR just will not raise his/her flag. Sometimes the Center will see/catch it, more times than not, he/she will NOT see it. Typically, a few parents will get irate and eventually, then the HS kid is so scared, he/she raises the flag each and everytime, if it's even close. Unfortunate but a lot of those HS aged kids just don't have enough "life" experience to deal with the loud/obnoxious parents and they get baited into calling calls that they should not call.

There's always a shortage of good ARs because very few return for another season of abuse by the parents (and a lot of the time coaches). Fix the sideline problem and it will fix the problem of having brand new, timid, ARs

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Maybe so. But the ECNL clubs are the last holdouts against a statewide monopoly on OYSA league play and the honchos at OYSA (who are the same honchos at ODP and the academy programs) running every aspect of Oregon youth soccer from U littles through high school. For that reason alone even though my DD doesn't play for an ECNL club I root for their success. If OYSA/ODP/thorns academy/timbers academy is this bad now, how much worse will they be if there is literally no other option to play soccer in Oregon?

Wrong again.

AYSO and KidsSports field teams and clubs and both not part of US Club Soccer or OYSA.

No big deal there other associations you can join and thousands do, not really the case that any club is holding out against the OYSA, they are free to join any association they want.

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OYSA must sanction any league that meets requirements. They aren't the gatekeepers, they are the sanctioning body. Just like they must admit clubs that meet requirements.

If you aren't one of their cronies, they make it as difficult as possible and are known to be more stringent with people who haven't assimilated.

Wrong again. They (OYSA) 'must' not do anything, they have the power not to sanction any league, for any reason, regardless of any so called requirements, there are none of these requirements or checklist to get automatic sanctioning. Otherwise business minded people would of already got a league sanctioned and banked all the coin like the Peregrine group has done. The OYSA has a sovereign state right to be more restrictive/permissive on any policy per USYS constitution and bylaws.

Admitting a club is a different type of fish than sanctioning a league.

Now you know the real skinny.

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There's always a shortage of good ARs because very few return for another season of abuse by the parents (and a lot of the time coaches). Fix the sideline problem and it will fix the problem of having brand new, timid, ARs

Yes, the sideline problem is the main reason there's a ref problem.