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    Rapinoe

    This thing got funny yesterday.

    Rapinoe takes a knee during a national anthem in support of Kaepernick. Owner (airforce bet) of her team doesn't care for it much apparently and then tricks her in the next game (she indicates she will repeat gesture in subsequent games including USWNT) by playing the national anthem early.

    Then she goes off the rail (frankly I think the question t'd her up):
    Rapinoe was asked if being gay — and the fact the Spirit is one of two NWSL teams that does not hold a Pride Night to celebrate the LGBT community, which forms a large base of league support — played into the team’s decision to undermine her anthem plans.
    “I do. Yeah, I do,” she said. “I have had conversations with Spirit players current and past, the fact that they don’t have a Pride Night. They have gay players like everyone else [in the league]. They’ve made it pretty clear, at least internally, that that’s not a game they are interested in, which is homophobic to me. I don’t know if it was directly at me because I’m gay and it’s a protest I am making as a gay woman. Bit of a stretch, but yeah I do think that Bill ***** is homophobic.”

    HE IS HOMOPHOBIC BECAUSE HE DOESN'T MAKE HER GESTURE AND THEY DON'T HAVE GAY PRIDE EVENT?

    *****'s response:

    On Thursday, ***** responded by telling the Insider: “She probably got lost in the moment and blurted something out. I certainly don’t agree with the statement, by any stretch.”
    Bill ***** (Washington Spirit)
    He said sexual orientation has never been an issue in assembling the squad or staff.
    “We’re absolutely inclusive. Anyone claiming we’re not inclusive, it’s silly. [Sexuality] is not even something that gets discussed. We don’t make decisions based on race, gender or sexual preference. Unless someone is talking about it, I have no idea what their sexual preference is.”

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    ***** looks so much classier here imo. She is entitled to her opinions and to support the causes she believes in; owner of the team is also entitled to take away his team as a platform for the gesture. The Pride thing is a little more complex, considering so many of the Reign fans are apparently part of the LGBT community . . . this whole thing may really hurt their relationship with fans. But that doesn't make the owner homophobic.

    Honestly, the USWNT has the same characteristics of so many professional athlete - entitled brats.

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    This thing got funny yesterday.

    Rapinoe takes a knee during a national anthem in support of Kaepernick. Owner (airforce bet) of her team doesn't care for it much apparently and then tricks her in the next game (she indicates she will repeat gesture in subsequent games including USWNT) by playing the national anthem early.

    Then she goes off the rail (frankly I think the question t'd her up):
    Rapinoe was asked if being gay — and the fact the Spirit is one of two NWSL teams that does not hold a Pride Night to celebrate the LGBT community, which forms a large base of league support — played into the team’s decision to undermine her anthem plans.
    “I do. Yeah, I do,” she said. “I have had conversations with Spirit players current and past, the fact that they don’t have a Pride Night. They have gay players like everyone else [in the league]. They’ve made it pretty clear, at least internally, that that’s not a game they are interested in, which is homophobic to me. I don’t know if it was directly at me because I’m gay and it’s a protest I am making as a gay woman. Bit of a stretch, but yeah I do think that Bill ***** is homophobic.”

    HE IS HOMOPHOBIC BECAUSE HE DOESN'T MAKE HER GESTURE AND THEY DON'T HAVE GAY PRIDE EVENT?

    *****'s response:

    On Thursday, ***** responded by telling the Insider: “She probably got lost in the moment and blurted something out. I certainly don’t agree with the statement, by any stretch.”
    Bill ***** (Washington Spirit)
    He said sexual orientation has never been an issue in assembling the squad or staff.
    “We’re absolutely inclusive. Anyone claiming we’re not inclusive, it’s silly. [Sexuality] is not even something that gets discussed. We don’t make decisions based on race, gender or sexual preference. Unless someone is talking about it, I have no idea what their sexual preference is.”

    _____________________
    ***** looks so much classier here imo. She is entitled to her opinions and to support the causes she believes in; owner of the team is also entitled to take away his team as a platform for the gesture. The Pride thing is a little more complex, considering so many of the Reign fans are apparently part of the LGBT community . . . this whole thing may really hurt their relationship with fans. But that doesn't make the owner homophobic.

    Honestly, the USWNT has the same characteristics of so many professional athlete - entitled brats.
    Kick her arse off the national team. Huge tip of the hat to Spirit for not letting her hijack the anthem

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      #3
      Rapine better be careful. She needs to remember that her league is first a job not her personal platform. Second, the NWSL is a charity that is supported by US Soccer and the owners. The league does not make money. It loses lots of money. Just because an organization does not have an LBGT night does not mean they don't support the community. Would it be nice sure but it is not up to a player from another team to decide what promotions should be run.

      The LGBT may be a large part of the fanbase for the NWSL but unless they come up with a lot more bodies at games and dollars spent they carry no weight.

      I can see this becoming too big an issue for these charitable owners to continue. Who is to say that some of these owners say tomorrow I can't be bothered?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Rapine better be careful. She needs to remember that her league is first a job not her personal platform. Second, the NWSL is a charity that is supported by US Soccer and the owners. The league does not make money. It loses lots of money. Just because an organization does not have an LBGT night does not mean they don't support the community. Would it be nice sure but it is not up to a player from another team to decide what promotions should be run.

        The LGBT may be a large part of the fanbase for the NWSL but unless they come up with a lot more bodies at games and dollars spent they carry no weight.

        I can see this becoming too big an issue for these charitable owners to continue. Who is to say that some of these owners say tomorrow I can't be bothered?
        My thought exactly. Initial response is that if I had a player go on a tirade like she did, would simply kick her off the team. Her initial gesture was one thing (personally mixed feelings on it); promising to do it at USWNT games is another (although that isn't necessarily the Spirits problem); reacting the way she did and disparaging the owner . . . really uncalled for.

        Relationship with the LBGT is a complicating factor and I think ***** is showing restraint here.

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          #5
          I don't know about NWSL or the USWNT but my employment contract prohibits me from actions that can be deemed detrimental to the companies image etc.
          Expressing personal opinions publically that may bring negative light on my employer could possibly get me fired ......
          Kick her to the curb and move on ..... she's a liability.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I don't know about NWSL or the USWNT but my employment contract prohibits me from actions that can be deemed detrimental to the companies image etc.
            Expressing personal opinions publically that may bring negative light on my employer could possibly get me fired ......
            Kick her to the curb and move on ..... she's a liability.
            Rapinoe has always been extremely selfish both on the field and off the field.

            She is and always has been about promoting herself.

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              #7
              What happened to the times when someone would be kicked off the team for being a complete freaking idiot?

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                #8
                This is a first.

                A topic on TS that we all agree on. Being gay isn't a license to be an idiot. Kudos to PDX soccer community.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  This is a first.

                  A topic on TS that we all agree on. Being gay isn't a license to be an idiot. Kudos to PDX soccer community.
                  Nobody cares about an unattractive lesbian player at the end ignore career. I do applaud her for taking a stand. I would like to see Alex Morgan do the same to make statement. Or even Mallory Pugh.

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                    #10
                    Makes me crazy that she has to turn it into a gay or not thing. You don't hear anyone complaining there isn't a straight pride night.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      This thing got funny yesterday.

                      Rapinoe takes a knee during a national anthem in support of Kaepernick. Owner (airforce bet) of her team doesn't care for it much apparently and then tricks her in the next game (she indicates she will repeat gesture in subsequent games including USWNT) by playing the national anthem early.

                      Then she goes off the rail (frankly I think the question t'd her up):
                      Rapinoe was asked if being gay — and the fact the Spirit is one of two NWSL teams that does not hold a Pride Night to celebrate the LGBT community, which forms a large base of league support — played into the team’s decision to undermine her anthem plans.
                      “I do. Yeah, I do,” she said. “I have had conversations with Spirit players current and past, the fact that they don’t have a Pride Night. They have gay players like everyone else [in the league]. They’ve made it pretty clear, at least internally, that that’s not a game they are interested in, which is homophobic to me. I don’t know if it was directly at me because I’m gay and it’s a protest I am making as a gay woman. Bit of a stretch, but yeah I do think that Bill ***** is homophobic.”

                      HE IS HOMOPHOBIC BECAUSE HE DOESN'T MAKE HER GESTURE AND THEY DON'T HAVE GAY PRIDE EVENT?

                      *****'s response:

                      On Thursday, ***** responded by telling the Insider: “She probably got lost in the moment and blurted something out. I certainly don’t agree with the statement, by any stretch.”
                      Bill ***** (Washington Spirit)
                      He said sexual orientation has never been an issue in assembling the squad or staff.
                      “We’re absolutely inclusive. Anyone claiming we’re not inclusive, it’s silly. [Sexuality] is not even something that gets discussed. We don’t make decisions based on race, gender or sexual preference. Unless someone is talking about it, I have no idea what their sexual preference is.”

                      _____________________
                      ***** looks so much classier here imo. She is entitled to her opinions and to support the causes she believes in; owner of the team is also entitled to take away his team as a platform for the gesture. The Pride thing is a little more complex, considering so many of the Reign fans are apparently part of the LGBT community . . . this whole thing may really hurt their relationship with fans. But that doesn't make the owner homophobic.

                      Honestly, the USWNT has the same characteristics of so many professional athlete - entitled brats.
                      Please show me how "class act" is relevant here. I respect your subjective opinion, but wonder how often the national anthem was played earlier than the scheduled time before and after this event. Couple this with the fact that this club does not offer a 'gay' event concerns me.

                      Since I don't have data in hand, I can only offer my own subjective opinion; I would say that ***** is looking at net profit as his bottom line. However, since you yourself point out that "so many of the Reign fans are 'apparently' part of the LGBT community," then perhaps people of all affiliated/non-affiliated identities are feeding his pockets, then perhaps he needs to address the needs/concerns of his players, staff and fans.

                      Your innuendo, coupled with blatant biases of your own such as, "Honestly, the USWNT has the same characteristics of so many professional athlete - entitled brats," is acknowledged but so wrong in determining class act and gauging "homophobic" actions. How about equal pay? Where is that concept with you? I've personally known people to act in "homophobic" ways only to end up acknowledging that they were part of the LCBT community or supporters there of-where are you in this spectrum of thought?

                      I am a straight mom of straight children, who believes in 'seeking justice and liberty for all.--BTW, a statement a good number of us have used since the early 70s. One knee or use of this statement is the right of every citizen, period. If the owner chooses to act outside of the traditional proceedings then he has that right, but since he entertains media and not his own players and staff on the early playing of the anthem, then his action could be perceived as cowardly and could come across as homophobic.

                      Let the trash talking of m post begin. I don't care. I've seen and heard just about everything in this forum.

                      Enjoy your child's game this week end, and Go THORNS!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        This is a first.

                        A topic on TS that we all agree on. Being gay isn't a license to be an idiot. Kudos to PDX soccer community.
                        Perhaps this isn't about being 'gay.'

                        Don't confuse playing the national anthem while the players were in the locker room with a 'gay' issue. To think and post so is idiotic.

                        Cudos to people that understand the difference.

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...n-locker-room/

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Please show me how "class act" is relevant here. I respect your subjective opinion, but wonder how often the national anthem was played earlier than the scheduled time before and after this event. Couple this with the fact that this club does not offer a 'gay' event concerns me.

                          Since I don't have data in hand, I can only offer my own subjective opinion; I would say that ***** is looking at net profit as his bottom line. However, since you yourself point out that "so many of the Reign fans are 'apparently' part of the LGBT community," then perhaps people of all affiliated/non-affiliated identities are feeding his pockets, then perhaps he needs to address the needs/concerns of his players, staff and fans.

                          Your innuendo, coupled with blatant biases of your own such as, "Honestly, the USWNT has the same characteristics of so many professional athlete - entitled brats," is acknowledged but so wrong in determining class act and gauging "homophobic" actions. How about equal pay? Where is that concept with you? I've personally known people to act in "homophobic" ways only to end up acknowledging that they were part of the LCBT community or supporters there of-where are you in this spectrum of thought?

                          I am a straight mom of straight children, who believes in 'seeking justice and liberty for all.--BTW, a statement a good number of us have used since the early 70s. One knee or use of this statement is the right of every citizen, period. If the owner chooses to act outside of the traditional proceedings then he has that right, but since he entertains media and not his own players and staff on the early playing of the anthem, then his action could be perceived as cowardly and could come across as homophobic.

                          Let the trash talking of m post begin. I don't care. I've seen and heard just about everything in this forum.

                          Enjoy your child's game this week end, and Go THORNS!
                          I am all for equal rights for all. That does not mean we need to take all of these extra steps to treat blacks or homosexuals as iif they are some sort of endangered species.

                          Megan excercised her freedom of expression and so did the club owner. I agree with the owner in this case mainly because I believe Rapinoe is a media hound and this has more to do with her or the cause.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Makes me crazy that she has to turn it into a gay or not thing. You don't hear anyone complaining there isn't a straight pride night.
                            She didn't. The media did.

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                              #15
                              Your assumptions are just that. Are you now stating every organization that does have a LGBT night is homophobic. Isn't that a big leap? It is a business that is privately owned and not subject to Ms. Rapinoe's whims. They hold the anthem dear and feel it should be respected. They might feel the Ms. Rapinoe's actions are disrespectful to all the American that hold it in high regard.

                              It might be different if this business was making money. They are not! Ms. Rapinoe took and awful big leap from they did not let me demonstrate during the anthem to the owner is a homophobe. She has not proven anything she just made a statement. The Washington Spirit and Mr. ***** has hired people from the LGBT community and it has never been an issue.

                              It seems to boil down to Ms. Rapinoe did not get her way so lets throw out the Homophobe attack and hope it gains traction.

                              I feel Ms. aping has a right to say what she wants abut America but it is not her employers job to give her a platform.

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