ECNL is dead

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It was easy to understand the poster's message was more general than Oregon. Each state does fit into a larger framework. Are you in favor of building a wall around the state?

Let's be honest. You are 'the poster'. Hahahaha. Now you are dumber than a dumbass.

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Saying ecnl in oregon is tried and true is right there with saying donald trump will make america great again.

You are being scammed.

DA restrictions and regulations are garbage. But with idiots like you out there i can see why they want to filter people out.

Tell us which program in Oregon is better than ECNL.

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Tell us which program in Oregon is better than ECNL.

All of them. Ecnl in Oregon is a joke. Ecnl league is losing teams. Waste of time, money, and effort.

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All of them. Ecnl in Oregon is a joke. Ecnl league is losing teams. Waste of time, money, and effort.

So all those Timbers clubs with no HS-aged girls teams are better than the clubs with teams that are competitive (regardless of what your little brain thinks) in the top league in the nation? Hmmm. That's some pretty potent Timbers Kool-Aid you're swallowing there...

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Let's be honest. You are 'the poster'. Hahahaha. Now you are dumber than a dumbass.

Nope. And you are no doubt a Trump guy obviously. Good for you. Everything is rigged. I saw the plane with loads of cash. Did you?

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Nope. And you are no doubt a Trump guy obviously. Good for you. Everything is rigged. I saw the plane with loads of cash. Did you?

That makes no sense. Are you psychotic like Hillary, insane like Trump, or just stupid like Sanders?
I you're going to make psychotic posts about your insane idea that the GDA is better than ECNL nationally - or locally- at least don't use stupid reasoning.

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Nope. And you are no doubt a Trump guy obviously. Good for you. Everything is rigged. I saw the plane with loads of cash. Did you?

I'm not a Trump guy. I'm not a Hillary guy. I'm a change the whole damn system guy.

(Yes, this is intended to take a hidden jab at blowing up ECNL)

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I'm not a Trump guy. I'm not a Hillary guy. I'm a change the whole damn system guy.

(Yes, this is intended to take a hidden jab at blowing up ECNL)

You think ECNL is the biggest problem in Oregon youth soccer?

How about lack of solidarity payments/training compensation?
How about our closed franchise system in the professional ranks?
How about the fact that ratings in general have declined for MLS (albeit with a small recovery this year) despite many more franchises?
How about the fact that MLS puts out fewer home grown players than just about any league in the world?
How about the fact that MLS owners have to spend $120 million (and some are speculating $200 million soon) for a franchise and yet they can get away with spending only a couple of million on player salaries?
How about the fact that reserves in NWSL don't get paid?
How the Timbers' money-grab in youth soccer?
How about the fact that nationally we have 3 youth soccer programs fighting for control (Academy, US Club, and USYSA)?

The inequality in the ECNL (and presumably in the girls DA) is a problem, but god it is far from the biggest one in this little corner of the soccer universe.

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You think ECNL is the biggest problem in Oregon youth soccer?

How about lack of solidarity payments/training compensation?
How about our closed franchise system in the professional ranks?
How about the fact that ratings in general have declined for MLS (albeit with a small recovery this year) despite many more franchises?
How about the fact that MLS puts out fewer home grown players than just about any league in the world?
How about the fact that MLS owners have to spend $120 million (and some are speculating $200 million soon) for a franchise and yet they can get away with spending only a couple of million on player salaries?
How about the fact that reserves in NWSL don't get paid?
How the Timbers' money-grab in youth soccer?
How about the fact that nationally we have 3 youth soccer programs fighting for control (Academy, US Club, and USYSA)?

The inequality in the ECNL (and presumably in the girls DA) is a problem, but god it is far from the biggest one in this little corner of the soccer universe.

As for the Timbers record with homegrown players, they are the ONLY team in the MLS with ZERO homegrown players on their roster. ZERO. Most teams have between 3 and 6. And we want these clowns running youth soccer in Oregon?

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As for the Timbers record with homegrown players, they are the ONLY team in the MLS with ZERO homegrown players on their roster. ZERO. Most teams have between 3 and 6. And we want these clowns running youth soccer in Oregon?

Therein lies the problem with soccer mentality. In no other sport, is there "homegrown" consideration. The NFL, MLB, NHL and every other sport doesn't have a "homegrown" element. They simply find the best. Wherever they come from. They have youth development leagues like soccer, but in no way shape or form have the idea that the professional team have "homegrown" players. Seek and sign the best you can get. Simple really.

I'm a soccer fan and soccer dad so this isnt about a soccer hating radical. When it comes to paying to watch professional athletes, I simply want to see the best a club can get, not the best "homegrown". If it works out that way, great! But why should it be a requirement?

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This league (ECNL) is in it's final year of having many of the top clubs from across the country as US Soccer is starting a Development Academy league in 2017-18. The NWSL Portland Thorns were selected from the hundreds of clubs applying, Oregon and SW Washington will represented by only the Portland Thorns GDA teams in 17-18 as none of our local clubs were able to meet the standard in year 1 set by US Soccer. Local clubs not selected have indicated they will apply again after improving their coaching staff qualifications and standard of play. Hopefully our local clubs rise to the challenge!

LOL! You are deluded. The Thorns meet no standards. They were selected because they are the Thorns. They don't have the coaches or players. They have no history of developing players. They have a name and that's it.

Love your absolute statements about the ECNL. We will see!!

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Therein lies the problem with soccer mentality. In no other sport, is there "homegrown" consideration. The NFL, MLB, NHL and every other sport doesn't have a "homegrown" element. They simply find the best. Wherever they come from. They have youth development leagues like soccer, but in no way shape or form have the idea that the professional team have "homegrown" players. Seek and sign the best you can get. Simple really.

I'm a soccer fan and soccer dad so this isnt about a soccer hating radical. When it comes to paying to watch professional athletes, I simply want to see the best a club can get, not the best "homegrown". If it works out that way, great! But why should it be a requirement?

Because the other sports have youth development leagues that actually develop players and often at much lower costs (Pop Warner, AAU, etc). Baseball has a well developed minor league system. Basketball and Football also have a big component soccer doesn't - the importance of HS and college in further developing talent. Anyone wanting to play soccer in college HAS to play on a club team these days to even get a coach to look at them. Then once you go to college your coach will only care about winning (just like HS).

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Therein lies the problem with soccer mentality. In no other sport, is there "homegrown" consideration. The NFL, MLB, NHL and every other sport doesn't have a "homegrown" element. They simply find the best. Wherever they come from. They have youth development leagues like soccer, but in no way shape or form have the idea that the professional team have "homegrown" players. Seek and sign the best you can get. Simple really.

I'm a soccer fan and soccer dad so this isnt about a soccer hating radical. When it comes to paying to watch professional athletes, I simply want to see the best a club can get, not the best "homegrown". If it works out that way, great! But why should it be a requirement?

Soccer world wide has this mentality.

Other pro sports in the us do not need the same level of development and they don't have youth programs.

The Timbers are trying to take over soccer claiming they are the best at developing players yet they have zero examples of doing so. They are frauds bullying and looting youth soccer in Oregon.

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Therein lies the problem with soccer mentality. In no other sport, is there "homegrown" consideration. The NFL, MLB, NHL and every other sport doesn't have a "homegrown" element. They simply find the best. Wherever they come from. They have youth development leagues like soccer, but in no way shape or form have the idea that the professional team have "homegrown" players. Seek and sign the best you can get. Simple really.

I'm a soccer fan and soccer dad so this isnt about a soccer hating radical. When it comes to paying to watch professional athletes, I simply want to see the best a club can get, not the best "homegrown". If it works out that way, great! But why should it be a requirement?

Might quibble that baseball doesn't have some homegrown element . . . some organizations during certain eras take great pride in the players that come up through their system. Doesn't reach as far down as foreign soccer academy, but does reach a bit.

Whether MLS teams are buyers or developers, its mediocre quality. Its also a close system that seems to want to emulate the other US sports' narrative more so than the narrative followed in most parts of the world: balanced schedule, champ is who standing at the end of the season, promotion/relegation, some emphasis on FA and Champions League Cups. Personally think that the MLS version of soccer is kind of bastardization of the sport.

As for the Timbers and their academy - MLS requires them to have it and some of their fans would like to see homegrown talent . . . it is part of the soccer narrative in many places. So far, they aren't having too much success.

Bigger problem - Timbers $ grab in pay-to-play. It is a monstrosity.

Some folks are hell bent on taking ECNL down in this state; just think their are bigger fish to fry in helping the game here.

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Therein lies the problem with soccer mentality. In no other sport, is there "homegrown" consideration. The NFL, MLB, NHL and every other sport doesn't have a "homegrown" element. They simply find the best. Wherever they come from. They have youth development leagues like soccer, but in no way shape or form have the idea that the professional team have "homegrown" players. Seek and sign the best you can get. Simple really.

I'm a soccer fan and soccer dad so this isnt about a soccer hating radical. When it comes to paying to watch professional athletes, I simply want to see the best a club can get, not the best "homegrown". If it works out that way, great! But why should it be a requirement?

Those other pro leagues don't try to run the youth system of their respective sports. They leave that alone. Pro soccer in America wants total control of the youth system, not because they want the homegrown players, but because it is a huge source of revenue for them. Just look at the Timbers. Huge revenue ever since they took over running the OYSA league and ODP/RTC. HUGE!