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ECNL parents are lovely aren't they?

News for ya: ECNL is terrible. And costly. Particularly in Oregon. Let the mediocre players with money have it.

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ECNL parents are lovely aren't they?

News for ya: ECNL is terrible. And costly. Particularly in Oregon. Let the mediocre players with money have it.

Says the parent of the kid that got cut 3 years in a row.

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the problem

the problem in general is tryouts.

even if tryouts are free, and pay to play doesn't exist, if there are only one or two or THREE days where everyone has to come to one spot to tryout, good players will go unnoticed.

what USA needs is scouts. EVERYWHERE, or at least say, one for each USYS "state", you know Cal South and Cal North being two states and all. this way league games matter, and only standout players get invited to the next level.

of course the well off will find out who that scout is and try to bribe them, but it's a whole different way to go about this soccer thing. also, the added benefit is there is someone, or small group of people, to hold accountable if they get the picks wrong.

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the problem in general is tryouts.

even if tryouts are free, and pay to play doesn't exist, if there are only one or two or THREE days where everyone has to come to one spot to tryout, good players will go unnoticed.

what USA needs is scouts. EVERYWHERE, or at least say, one for each USYS "state", you know Cal South and Cal North being two states and all. this way league games matter, and only standout players get invited to the next level.

of course the well off will find out who that scout is and try to bribe them, but it's a whole different way to go about this soccer thing. also, the added benefit is there is someone, or small group of people, to hold accountable if they get the picks wrong.

ECNL has over 150 scouts already.

http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/?page_id=3460

"The Scouting Process

The ECNL Player Identification Platform has enabled the ECNL to develop a scouting network of over 150 ECNL Player ID Scouts. These scouts include coaches from ECNL Member Clubs as well as independent coaches. The ECNL scouting network include some of the countries best youth club coaches, coaches with former experience with US Soccer National Teams, and coaches from top Division I, II, and III colleges.

The ECNL Player ID Scouting Staff is one of the largest, most qualified, and most comprehensive scouting networks for female players in the country.

ECNL scouts are assigned to observe and analyze ECNL games at each event in the ECNL National Showcase Event Series. A standardized evaluation program has been established by the ECNL for these scouts whereby identified players will be evaluated on a variety of technical, tactical, physical, and psychological characteristics based upon their performances. The performance of identified players will be tracked over time through a secure, online database provided to the ECNL by Total Global Sports. This database allows for longitudinal tracking of the players, comparison of different ratings of the same players by different scouts, and is searchable so that the top players in any category, birth year, or position can be identified."

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the problem in general is tryouts.

even if tryouts are free, and pay to play doesn't exist, if there are only one or two or THREE days where everyone has to come to one spot to tryout, good players will go unnoticed.

what USA needs is scouts. EVERYWHERE, or at least say, one for each USYS "state", you know Cal South and Cal North being two states and all. this way league games matter, and only standout players get invited to the next level.

of course the well off will find out who that scout is and try to bribe them, but it's a whole different way to go about this soccer thing. also, the added benefit is there is someone, or small group of people, to hold accountable if they get the picks wrong.

The problem with tryouts is circumvented to a large degree by not selecting teams during the tryout period. Invite kids to join the age group "pool" and then form teams as needed over the course of the year based on performance at the time.

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ECNL has over 150 scouts already.

http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/?page_id=3460

"The Scouting Process

The ECNL Player Identification Platform has enabled the ECNL to develop a scouting network of over 150 ECNL Player ID Scouts. These scouts include coaches from ECNL Member Clubs as well as independent coaches. The ECNL scouting network include some of the countries best youth club coaches, coaches with former experience with US Soccer National Teams, and coaches from top Division I, II, and III colleges.

The ECNL Player ID Scouting Staff is one of the largest, most qualified, and most comprehensive scouting networks for female players in the country.

ECNL scouts are assigned to observe and analyze ECNL games at each event in the ECNL National Showcase Event Series. A standardized evaluation program has been established by the ECNL for these scouts whereby identified players will be evaluated on a variety of technical, tactical, physical, and psychological characteristics based upon their performances. The performance of identified players will be tracked over time through a secure, online database provided to the ECNL by Total Global Sports. This database allows for longitudinal tracking of the players, comparison of different ratings of the same players by different scouts, and is searchable so that the top players in any category, birth year, or position can be identified."

I think the OP was saying that the problem exists in identifying talent prior to team selection. The scouts referenced are at ECNL tourneys meaning they aren't seeing all the players that tryout.

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the problem in general is tryouts.

even if tryouts are free, and pay to play doesn't exist, if there are only one or two or THREE days where everyone has to come to one spot to tryout, good players will go unnoticed.

what USA needs is scouts. EVERYWHERE, or at least say, one for each USYS "state", you know Cal South and Cal North being two states and all. this way league games matter, and only standout players get invited to the next level.

of course the well off will find out who that scout is and try to bribe them, but it's a whole different way to go about this soccer thing. also, the added benefit is there is someone, or small group of people, to hold accountable if they get the picks wrong.

My daughters ECNL team had USNT scouts at about 1/2 of her showcase games this year.

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I think the OP was saying that the problem exists in identifying talent prior to team selection. The scouts referenced are at ECNL tourneys meaning they aren't seeing all the players that tryout.

The biggest problem is that most coaches are only interested in the current skill level / size / speed of the players they are selecting and not assessing each player's potential instead. It's all about win now or lose your job.

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The biggest problem is that most coaches are only interested in the current skill level / size / speed of the players they are selecting and not assessing each player's potential instead. It's all about win now or lose your job.

Sad, but true... all the way down to U8.

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My daughters ECNL team had USNT scouts at about 1/2 of her showcase games this year.

Well given that she isn't being invited to the team it was a waste of time for her to be there. Hopefully she made the players that they are interested in work a bit so they could showcase their talents.

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Great idea retard!

Oh yea..... You don't have to do ECNL if you don't want to. You have the power!!!

I know it's a hard concept for you retards to understand.

What sort of redneck, uneducated fool uses that word Re$#&@ anymore? Who? Backwater troglodytes, that's who.

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Well given that she isn't being invited to the team it was a waste of time for her to be there. Hopefully she made the players that they are interested in work a bit so they could showcase their talents.

She wasn't good enough in the scouts eyes to make the National team. The difference between you and me is I am ok with that. So is my daughter. She knows she is a very good player, she also knows there is another level and she has seen it.

So your kid still has the excuse that she was never seen because her parents never put her in the right spot to be evaluated. 20 years from now you can both spout off about what should have been as the bug zapper goes off in the background.

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What sort of redneck, uneducated fool uses that word Re$#&@ anymore? Who? Backwater troglodytes, that's who.

Perhaps it's the PC among us who are really the Eastside cavemen...

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Perhaps it's the PC among us who are really the Eastside cavemen...

Yeah. Using a pejorative slur describing a person with a mental disability is truly enlightened behavior. Here's the thing lug nut...you know it's infantile at best and deeply offensive to some at worst. This one isn't just PC run amuck...it's common decency to avoid that word. Go buy a thesaurus if you get tongue tightened mothballing ignorant slurs.

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ECNL has over 150 scouts already.

http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/?page_id=3460

"The Scouting Process

The ECNL Player Identification Platform has enabled the ECNL to develop a scouting network of over 150 ECNL Player ID Scouts. These scouts include coaches from ECNL Member Clubs as well as independent coaches. The ECNL scouting network include some of the countries best youth club coaches, coaches with former experience with US Soccer National Teams, and coaches from top Division I, II, and III colleges.

The ECNL Player ID Scouting Staff is one of the largest, most qualified, and most comprehensive scouting networks for female players in the country.

ECNL scouts are assigned to observe and analyze ECNL games at each event in the ECNL National Showcase Event Series. A standardized evaluation program has been established by the ECNL for these scouts whereby identified players will be evaluated on a variety of technical, tactical, physical, and psychological characteristics based upon their performances. The performance of identified players will be tracked over time through a secure, online database provided to the ECNL by Total Global Sports. This database allows for longitudinal tracking of the players, comparison of different ratings of the same players by different scouts, and is searchable so that the top players in any category, birth year, or position can be identified."

scouting ecnl games only selects from the players who are already at an advantage. claiming ECNL coaches as part of their staffing team is pointless, except that it is self-serving. USSF could say that every coach out there is a scout for them, and it would be true, in the same sense that ECNL is using it here. (they watch players play, they note who is good).

i'm talking about scouts like the kind mexican and english (d.karbassiyoon, arsenal) clubs employ. who are actively scouting for players to sign, poach if you want, the best talent out there.