Girls DA = $10,000/yr & NO high school sports???

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Sorry

The USSDA is creating (3) Super Teams in Oregon for the following age groups.

U13/14

U15/16

& u17/18

If you ballpark it and have 10 girls per age group you will get 60 players total with 20 players per group. That's why it's simple.

But this will only work if the best players tryout and are selected, which should be that tough to figure out with Scouts and choosing players that can compete at the highest level in the country.

The local clubs like FCP, THUSC, LOSC, WUSC,SSC, BSC, NEU Eastside, Westside and all others need to develop players that can play at the USSDA level through local competition and challenging state wide league play. Then the best from all those clubs can be promoted to the PORTLAND THORNS USSDA program.

Wouldn't be a source of pride for our state to hold it's own against the country's best vs the chaos and smoke screens that we all suffer through now.

Sounds good in theory .... but politics / ego / power will muck it up. I hope it plays out this way

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Sorry, but the ECNL has been gutted of it's best clubs in the last month by design and with more departures forthcoming the league stands to lose nearly 50 of it's 70 clubs to the USSDA.

So be honest and understand there isn't a ECNL left to play in beginning in 2017-18, but if you want to just play HS for fun that is a normal well rounded decision.

Understood.

Not a smart ass question but curious and skeptical regarding what Clubs have left the ECNL for the GDA? Please provide the names?

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Sounds good in theory .... but politics / ego / power will muck it up. I hope it plays out this way

Some of those top 10 players will stay with ECNL. Especially to wait and see what the likes of a San Diego Surf and other top clubs will do. Yes those clubs joined the GDA, but they have also stated that they will also field teams in the ECNL, what will that look like? It will be interesting. Just shows you have to be open to how soccer changes. My DD will be a senior, it won't effect her, the big controversy when she was younger was whether to play U11 with OYSA (8v8) or play to with OPL (11v11). I think the struggle will be with the youngers, because honestly for that U17/U18 age group, it really will not matter the first few years, their ship will have sailed already.

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Not a smart ass question but curious and skeptical regarding what Clubs have left the ECNL for the GDA? Please provide the names?

There was a list posted, 25 clubs in total a little over half are ECNL clubs. I know it was on Top Drawer soccer. Many of the clubs have stated they will play in both leagues, no details yet how that looks. Maybe someone will repost the list or it might be further back on this thread.

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Okay, so I read your post and it created a question. If you take the top 10 players in the area per age group, where do the other 8 come from? Last time I checked, it took 11 players to field a team and not having any subs sucks. And then who decides who the top 10 are? And how do you get them all together as far as the girls/families wanting the same is youth soccer soccer, it isn't just talent but also the willingness and desire for the commitment. I get what you are trying to get at, but just seems too simplistic to actually have that be practical advice.

I also had a question from the original post. You are making a huge and faulty assumption that the top 10 players per age group all live in the Portland metro area or are willing to make a lengthy commute for practice four times a week. That is simply not true. So right there you will never be able to get the true "cream of the crop.

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There was a list posted, 25 clubs in total a little over half are ECNL clubs. I know it was on Top Drawer soccer. Many of the clubs have stated they will play in both leagues, no details yet how that looks. Maybe someone will repost the list or it might be further back on this thread.

If your referring to the "other post" on Talking Soccer that listed 25 or so clubs that was pure BS. Someone made it up. Just because it's posted on TS does not make it true.

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Some of those top 10 players will stay with ECNL. Especially to wait and see what the likes of a San Diego Surf and other top clubs will do. Yes those clubs joined the GDA, but they have also stated that they will also field teams in the ECNL, what will that look like? It will be interesting. Just shows you have to be open to how soccer changes. My DD will be a senior, it won't effect her, the big controversy when she was younger was whether to play U11 with OYSA (8v8) or play to with OPL (11v11). I think the struggle will be with the youngers, because honestly for that U17/U18 age group, it really will not matter the first few years, their ship will have sailed already.

There isn't some hidden agenda of local clubs not sending their best teams to the ussda in 2017-18...in what world would we ever live in where after you are accepted. then you don't send your best.. it's like saying your oldest daughter with a 4.0 GPA has applied for Harvard she gets in... but you send her younger sister who has a 2.0 Grade average to Harvard so the harvard admitted daughter can attend linn-benton Community College

No one's leveraging a place in the ecln vs. A place in the ussda... clubs will play in the ecnl next year and then the year after those accepted to the ussda will leave the ecnl and yes their top best teams will join the ussda.. this isn't like a big trick or Game of Poker with clubs waiting to see.. they have already seen what's available in the future and they have applied and some have been accepted and they are moving forward.

All these clubs and their players that have potentials with youth national teams and some even with the Women's National Team they're not going to screw with us soccer

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There isn't some hidden agenda of local clubs not sending their best teams to the ussda in 2017-18...in what world would we ever live in where after you are accepted. then you don't send your best.. it's like saying your oldest daughter with a 4.0 GPA has applied for Harvard she gets in... but you send her younger sister who has a 2.0 Grade average to Harvard so the harvard admitted daughter can attend linn-benton Community College

No one's leveraging a place in the ecln vs. A place in the ussda... clubs will play in the ecnl next year and then the year after those accepted to the ussda will leave the ecnl and yes their top best teams will join the ussda.. this isn't like a big trick or Game of Poker with clubs waiting to see.. they have already seen what's available in the future and they have applied and some have been accepted and they are moving forward.

All these clubs and their players that have potentials with youth national teams and some even with the Women's National Team they're not going to screw with us soccer

Truth.

To say otherwise is foolish, even if it means giving up hs soccer.

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There isn't some hidden agenda of local clubs not sending their best teams to the ussda in 2017-18...in what world would we ever live in where after you are accepted. then you don't send your best.. it's like saying your oldest daughter with a 4.0 GPA has applied for Harvard she gets in... but you send her younger sister who has a 2.0 Grade average to Harvard so the harvard admitted daughter can attend linn-benton Community College

No one's leveraging a place in the ecln vs. A place in the ussda... clubs will play in the ecnl next year and then the year after those accepted to the ussda will leave the ecnl and yes their top best teams will join the ussda.. this isn't like a big trick or Game of Poker with clubs waiting to see.. they have already seen what's available in the future and they have applied and some have been accepted and they are moving forward.

All these clubs and their players that have potentials with youth national teams and some even with the Women's National Team they're not going to screw with us soccer

I kind of got your argument, but a slightly bad analogy comparing the USSDA to the equivalent of Harvard. If the Academy were made up all Ivy League teams then it is a great analogy, but allowing the Thorns Academy is like the Ivy League allowing Boise St. You can't call the USSDA quality when it has such a mixed bag of teams

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There was a list posted, 25 clubs in total a little over half are ECNL clubs. I know it was on Top Drawer soccer. Many of the clubs have stated they will play in both leagues, no details yet how that looks. Maybe someone will repost the list or it might be further back on this thread.

Which clubs have stated this? Name one. Just because a club is currently in ECNL and accepted to be a GDA doesn't mean both those leagues will allow it. Again, which clubs have stated this? Stop making sh*t up. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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I kind of got your argument, but a slightly bad analogy comparing the USSDA to the equivalent of Harvard. If the Academy were made up all Ivy League teams then it is a great analogy, but allowing the Thorns Academy is like the Ivy League allowing Boise St. You can't call the USSDA quality when it has such a mixed bag of teams

The analogy had nothing to do with the Ivy League.

Read it again.

Club =(4.0 daughter) gets accepted to USSDA=(Harvard)

Harvard is the top university in the country and the ussda is the top level of play in my country.

Who Harvard admits is their Business, just like the USSDA.

Because you don't like 1 person who gets admitted to Harvard is your own personal issue. It doesnt change the status of Havard.

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The analogy had nothing to do with the Ivy League.

Read it again.

Club =(4.0 daughter) gets accepted to USSDA=(Harvard)

Harvard is the top university in the country and the ussda is the top level of play in my country.

Who Harvard admits is their Business, just like the USSDA.

Because you don't like 1 person who gets admitted to Harvard is your own personal issue. It doesnt change the status of Havard.

Harvard is highly selective. Selecting the Thorns is comical

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Harvard is highly selective. Selecting the Thorns is comical

So is the girls highly selective schools. Even more so than Harvard. Harvard has a selection criteria of about 7%. However, Pac 12 schools get around 1,000 girls a year emailing them about going there. And they accept about 7 players. That's .7%. Much lower than the Ivy advertised 7% to 12%. UCLA, Stanford, Cal, USC, Duke, UNC, FL St., .... I guess girls who have been selected to go to schools in the Pac 12, ACC, .... even the Ivy, should hold their heads high.

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Harvard is highly selective. Selecting the Thorns is comical

What's comical is the local clubs who thought by joining the ECNL the last two years, this foolish act would somehow make them relevant at a regional and perhaps National level, but it didn"t they were passed over for considertion by the NWSL champions PORTLAND THORNS USSDA for 2017-18.

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Harvard is highly selective. Selecting the Thorns is comical

Oregon Clubs provided no viable or worthy candidates for rhis high a level of play and coaching. Delighted the countrys top Professional Womens club is willing to put Oregon girls in the highest level of play.

Its Awesome and so exciting for our community.