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Oregon ECNL class of 2016 had about 26 commits. The 2017 ECNL class has about 19 verbals. The 2018 Oregon ECNL class has 3 verbals and a national pool player that has yet to decide. I think between those 3 classes the Oregon ECNL commits are around 48-50.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Maybe, just maybe there are less than 8 commits for the rest of the TA clubs. I am aware of 3 of the 2018 class and I think there may be 3 or 4 from 2017 class going to Evergreen, Montana, and not certain. The TA clubs dont like to advertise something that doesn't existComment
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Had those three clubs (FCPDX, LOSC & THUSC) not decided to join the ECNL league those 40 to 50 commits between 3 classes they mention in present day... would of been around 80 to 100 if they stuck to playing a schedule that included just: OYSA league, OYSA State Cup, USYS Regional, elite tourneys, FWRL, Tacoma Showcase and NO ECNL...At less than half the cost of and twice the ROI.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
These are some genius parents.
Congrats!!Comment
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Like any college coaches attend any of those competitions except maybe a few JCs are in Boise taking a look. Believe what you want - ECNL is thumping hard on Timbers Alliance on the field and off.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Based upon your logic you would think more than 3-4 girls from TA clubs would get commits. It just goes to show the Tacoma Showcase is a waste of timeOriginally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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You have to know that 85% of college players play within 150 miles from their hometown. Why would you need ECNL for that? Is a trip to Dallas Tx going to get my DD a spot on a local college team? Nope.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
You aren't wasting your money by doing ECNL. I believe all money spent on sports is money well spent. I'm arguing that you don't need ECNL to play college soccerComment
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I am not sure I would agree that 85% of players play within 150, but it is probably a majority. However, more than 70% of our verbal commits are going further than 150 miles away from home.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
You say that you believe all money spent on sports is money well spent, but think you state you are wasting your money on ECNL. College coaches certainly like the level of competition of ECNL and will prefer some kid who is used to the competition and the speed of play.
There is a reason that more than 300 schools will be in San Diego next weekComment
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My daughter just joined an ECNL team this year. Her reasons were to get exposure to coaches outside the pacific nw (something her TA team couldn't provide on a consistent basis) and to play against tougher competition to ready herself for college. So far it has been a great experience and is giving her exactly what she wanted. It's not for everyone and that's fine. There's still TA/OYSA and Thorns academy. We don't criticize those that opt to not to ECNL, so why do you criticize those who do opt for ECNL? It's really none of your business what any other family chooses to do.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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You have a good point, it's not very intelligent to criticize stupidity.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Your stats are right in general feel but not quite accurate. The % of students attending 150 miles or less are 63%. Out West where distances can be vast 150 miles may not give you many college options, while back East in say Massachusetts you can throw a rock out your window and hit ten colleges. To hit your 85% of students it goes up to 500 miles. http://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ838811.pdfOriginally posted by Unregistered View Post
miles % Cumulative %
0 – 25 26.0 26.0
26 – 50 9.9 36.0
51 – 75 8.3 44.2
76 – 100 7.2 51.4
101 – 125 6.1 57.5
126 – 150 5.4 62.9
151 – 175 4.8 67.7
176 – 200 3.0 70.7
201 – 225 2.7 73.4
226 – 250 2.3 75.7
251 – 275 1.7 77.5
276 – 300 1.3 78.8
301 – 325 1.4 80.2
326 – 350 1.0 81.2
351 – 375 0.8 82.1
376 – 400 0.7 82.8
401 – 425 0.6 83.4
426 – 450 0.6 84.0
451 – 475 0.5 84.6
476 – 500 0.4 85.0
Then there are player goals in terms of level of soccer. If you want to play at a top D1 program you need to be playing in the most competitive league you can. In most cases this will be ECNL. Yes a few players recruited to top programs aren't ECNL, but when that happens it is still at a top Nationally ranked club, not some local club that just plays instate competition. There aren't many of those Nationally ranked non ECNL clubs out there. If your goals aren't top D1 then ECNL becomes less critical - there are thousands of roster spots and ECNL can't fill them all. However, you still need to be playing high level soccer and getting exposure to college coaches. ECNL has many flaws, but one thing you can't fault is the exposure it gives players to schools from all over the country, or even just 2-3 states away.
So if YOUR daughter wants to play close to home and it isn't a top program, then by all means skip ECNL and have her do ID camps at the schools nearby she's interested in. It might work out for, it might not. Just because she's from close by doesn't mean she'll be what local coaches are looking for skill wise. Something many TS posters seem to forget is what works for their family isn't the same as everyone else's. There is no one size fits all when it comes to deciding on colleges, just as the choices of where to play club soccer are individually based.Comment
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
where in the world would those 80 to 100 commits gone to? Lala Land? When has Oregon ever produced 80 to 100 commits over 3 classes? And by the way, 2017 and 2018 is not done... For ECNL or non-ECNL, kids will still verbally commit and sign.Comment
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Well my daughter isn't, and didn't want to, so really doesn't matter to me what "others" do. But happy to have you back on the thread, we missed you!Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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