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I'm a Timbers alliance parent and don't know a thing about "Tom" and his alleged honesty or dishonesty. I do know that Thorns academy is using ODP as a pipeline to take the better players whose parents have money out of our club and the other alliance clubs. Then putting that team right back into OYSA to play against their old teams. I can tell you for a fact that the alliance clubs do NOT "unanimously support" this.

What team wants their top players to be taken away? NONE....That doesn't mean club management does not want what is best for the top players and to see the best gather to one team to compete nationwide. Problem is Local clubs are not willing to let go of their control to unify under one to provide top players a single top OREGON team.

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What team wants their top players to be taken away? NONE....That doesn't mean club management does not want what is best for the top players and to see the best gather to one team to compete nationwide. Problem is Local clubs are not willing to let go of their control to unify under one to provide top players a single top OREGON team.

The issue is not losing top players and don't try to spin it that way. Our club has zero problem with boys going to timbers academy. The issue is taking those players, charging them an arm and a leg, and putting them back into OYSA to play against their old teams. It's a scam and the clubs know it.

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What team wants their top players to be taken away? NONE....That doesn't mean club management does not want what is best for the top players and to see the best gather to one team to compete nationwide. Problem is Local clubs are not willing to let go of their control to unify under one to provide top players a single top OREGON team.

Back in the olden days...
As someone who had children who were ODP players on teams full of ODP players, it was problematic in many ways when the kids had to miss club team trainings at the last minute for ODP and then go to tournaments, regional camp, and hold-over camps. We had players in our club who also made the national pools who always missed Thanksgiving with their families because they were at the national camp in Florida. This meant missing showcases with the club teams.

Our club has always been supportive of these players because they know that soccer guides the child in choosing their own personal path moving forward.

People loose sight of the intention behind ODP (Olympic Development Program) and now the Timbers Development Academy. One was meant to develop future Olympic team members and the other to develop elite "homegrown players' to feed into to ODP program.

I honestly believe that the DA is the means for the MLS to get to youth players at the age 12 level to protect themselves from having to pay out training fees and solidarity payments should they sign players to professional contracts and transfer players.

It gets complicated but here is an article that gives an idea as to why the Timbers (as an edict from the MLS) have become so active in the youth soccer movement:

https://www.theguardian.com/football...-a-soccer-star

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Back in the olden days...
As someone who had children who were ODP players on teams full of ODP players, it was problematic in many ways when the kids had to miss club team trainings at the last minute for ODP and then go to tournaments, regional camp, and hold-over camps. We had players in our club who also made the national pools who always missed Thanksgiving with their families because they were at the national camp in Florida. This meant missing showcases with the club teams.

Our club has always been supportive of these players because they know that soccer guides the child in choosing their own personal path moving forward.

People loose sight of the intention behind ODP (Olympic Development Program) and now the Timbers Development Academy. One was meant to develop future Olympic team members and the other to develop elite "homegrown players' to feed into to ODP program.

I honestly believe that the DA is the means for the MLS to get to youth players at the age 12 level to protect themselves from having to pay out training fees and solidarity payments should they sign players to professional contracts and transfer players.

It gets complicated but here is an article that gives an idea as to why the Timbers (as an edict from the MLS) have become so active in the youth soccer movement:

https://www.theguardian.com/football...-a-soccer-star

Home grown player thing doesn't seem to work out very often. If pro teams are running youth sports to develop home grown players it isn't working very well. Success rate has to be below 1% nationwide for MLS.

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What team wants their top players to be taken away? NONE....That doesn't mean club management does not want what is best for the top players and to see the best gather to one team to compete nationwide. Problem is Local clubs are not willing to let go of their control to unify under one to provide top players a single top OREGON team.

My DD's club specifically tells us that their goal is to prepare players to play at the next level whether it be ECNL or Thorns.

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Home grown player thing doesn't seem to work out very often. If pro teams are running youth sports to develop home grown players it isn't working very well. Success rate has to be below 1% nationwide for MLS.

Youth academies take 15 years before you'll see a homegrown player. Some academies across the world are seeing 20 years before talent is formed. The timbers academy is 10 years away.

FC Dallas has 9 homegrown a
Philly has 7

There are a lot of MLS Clubs that have 4-6. Most of these clubs have been around for almost 20 years.

You have to be a believe in the long term development model to enjoy the ever changing landscape. It's only a matter of time before we are able to train the American football/basketball mentality and actually start to get better at teaching the game. Parents cut checks so they think they should make decisions as to how coaches should teach the game.

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*****. Parents cut checks so they think they should make decisions as to how coaches should teach the game.

Your mentality is what is wrong with the alliance - alliance DOCs more focused on Timbers than there own membership (even though the latter pays their salary).

Back to the falsehoods in the Thorns marketing materials - a whole bunch of clubs in this state reject the Thorns Academy as the best place for their best HS players. Apparently some alliance families do as well.

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Your mentality is what is wrong with the alliance - alliance DOCs more focused on Timbers than there own membership (even though the latter pays their salary).

Back to the falsehoods in the Thorns marketing materials - a whole bunch of clubs in this state reject the Thorns Academy as the best place for their best HS players. Apparently some alliance families do as well.

I'm an original OPL coach

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I'm an original OPL coach

Thorns marketing is false. Responses are:

-Tom lies more
-If only clubs and parents got it, the statement WOULD be true

You aren't an alliance coach? Guess you are true believer; I am not and false advertising doesn't help.