How bad is it in the Timbers Alliance?

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It's because the ECNL teams are too busy bashing each other to try to stem defections. That and they are too busy traveling to TA practices to recruit players.

And that's why no one gives two sh$t's about the alliance clubs. Any talent is gone and what's left struggles as a shell of a former B team. Must suck.

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And that's why no one gives two sh$t's about the alliance clubs. Any talent is gone and what's left struggles as a shell of a former B team. Must suck.

Seems the Timbers Alliance lemming cavemen clowns are out in full force this week. Lots of parents of kids who will soon be playing OYSA div 4 on their Timbers team feel the need to lash out and spread lies and misinformation about other clubs.

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Timbers clubs are so passé. Everybody knows that the top talent leaves the Timbers clubs by U14. Everybody knows that.

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Timbers clubs are so passé. Everybody knows that the top talent leaves the Timbers clubs by U14. Everybody knows that.

Ye, logically the club (Westside Timbers) with most talented male players under the age of 14 are selected for the Timbers Development Academy beginning at around the u14/15 age groups.

News Flash.

As such tt opens the doors for the other local neighborhood clubs to compete for OYSA State Cups from u15 to u18, giving a them sense of accomplishment they never expected as perennial also-rans. It allows these clubs to increase fees and be relevant. Brilliant.

It's along the same lines as the legitimacy of SW Washington clubs winning the OYSA State Cup.

Oregon Youth Soccer wants us all to feel the 'Bern'....

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A dumb attitude

Timbers clubs are so passé. Everybody knows that the top talent leaves the Timbers clubs by U14. Everybody knows that.

There seems to be an attitude, in some parts, that if a club doesn't run an entire gamut of age groups from an adult team that sells tickets to paying customers, down to a U9 development league, that it's a failure.

Part of being in the TA is that the Timbers expect top talent developed by the club to apply for the Timbers' DA when they get old enough. Cony and company are **happy**, and consider it a success, when WST players move on to the DA. Or to IGF. Or to some other elite academy that focuses on uber-elite talent, and has a recruiting base greater than the Portland metro area, particularly the western parts thereof.

Likewise with non-ECNL girls clubs and ECNL. It's not a shame for Whatever Timbers if a girl developed in their U11 and U12 programs goes on to an ECNL club when she gets to the appropriate age.

As you move up the soccer pyramid, the number of clubs decreases. Simple math.

The only real concern is this: Are CU and FCP giving their own U11s and U12s an advantage in ECNL tryouts? Do the Timbers favor the TA clubs over the non-TA clubs in forming the DA teams? The answer to both should be "no"--as the player pool should be the widest possible, there are often many good candidates at other clubs, and elite clubs shouldn't take advantage of their status to unfairly compete against other clubs at the lowest levels.

But "WST sucks because their high-school teams lost to FCSC and Eastside" is kinda dumb.

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Timbers clubs are so passé. Everybody knows that the top talent leaves the Timbers clubs by U14. Everybody knows that.

Winner!

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Timbers clubs are so passé. Everybody knows that the top talent leaves the Timbers clubs by U14. Everybody knows that.

Top Oregon boys talent get promoted/chose for placement in the Timbers Dev. Academy.

Top Girls talent has no place to go than their local neighborhood club at the moment.

Once the Girls DA comes to town hopefully the girls will get a chance to play for elite teams and earn a spot on an Oregon elite academy team.

Until then, horizontal player movement by girls from one local neighborhood club to another local club neighborhood club is not at all passe', it's just business as usual or some say it better, it's just the same ole', same ole'.

Wishing there was an elite Girls program in Oregon just like the boys have with the Timbers!

Until then, I will keep humming the LunchMoney Lewis tribute to my plight in this mess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IrQHeDcMi8

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Both Oregon ECNL programs are outperforming the "professionals" at the Timbers academy:

u16 -
FC ECNL 1.33
CU ECNL .75
Timbers USSDA .73 (9 straight losses, majority against regular old neighborhood clubs)

u18-
CU ECNL 1.28
FC ECNL 1.08
Timbers USSDA 1.04

For the sake of Oregon girls' soccer, lets keep the Timbers far, far away (right now the consumer is making that choice - running far, far away from their girls offering).

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There seems to be an attitude, in some parts, that if a club doesn't run an entire gamut of age groups from an adult team that sells tickets to paying customers, down to a U9 development league, that it's a failure.

Part of being in the TA is that the Timbers expect top talent developed by the club to apply for the Timbers' DA when they get old enough. Cony and company are **happy**, and consider it a success, when WST players move on to the DA. Or to IGF. Or to some other elite academy that focuses on uber-elite talent, and has a recruiting base greater than the Portland metro area, particularly the western parts thereof.

Likewise with non-ECNL girls clubs and ECNL. It's not a shame for Whatever Timbers if a girl developed in their U11 and U12 programs goes on to an ECNL club when she gets to the appropriate age.

As you move up the soccer pyramid, the number of clubs decreases. Simple math.

The only real concern is this: Are CU and FCP giving their own U11s and U12s an advantage in ECNL tryouts? Do the Timbers favor the TA clubs over the non-TA clubs in forming the DA teams? The answer to both should be "no"--as the player pool should be the widest possible, there are often many good candidates at other clubs, and elite clubs shouldn't take advantage of their status to unfairly compete against other clubs at the lowest levels.

But "WST sucks because their high-school teams lost to FCSC and Eastside" is kinda dumb.

If elite clubs can't take advantage of being elite, then why work so hard to become elite in the first place. You sound like a Bernie Sanders supporter.