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    Boys DAP is going bye bye

    http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs...-by-fall-2017/

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    With the federation now committed to mobilizing significant resources for the rollout of an academy for girls next year, the ECNL faces an uncertain future as clubs weigh whether to maintain the status quo, shift their focus towards the Girls DA or attempt to compete on both fronts. ECNL executives recently called club representatives to a mandatory meeting in Chicago to plot a course forward, a gathering where the expansion into boys play was surely discussed.

    One ECNL source suggested to SoccerWire that all but the nation’s largest clubs will have to choose between ECNL and Girls DA, while another contended that the boys talent pool is deep enough for many clubs to field both ECNL and DA teams.

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      #3
      I guess if the youth landscape must be fractured you may as well take it to a new level. Buckle up because a major ******* war is upon us. Could suck for the kids.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I guess if the youth landscape must be fractured you may as well take it to a new level. Buckle up because a major ******* war is upon us. Could suck for the kids.
        That's US Soccer for you. Screwed up big time by trying to throw a screw into the people that actually did something for girls soccer over the last few years. Now they'll lose control of the boys side too.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          That's US Soccer for you. Screwed up big time by trying to throw a screw into the people that actually did something for girls soccer over the last few years. Now they'll lose control of the boys side too.
          Sadly I think it will be the other way around.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Sadly I think it will be the other way around.
            Watch and be amazed at how many clubs will put boys teams in ECNL. Not to mention that it's a great way for ECNL to draw boys teams out of USSDA at clubs that do both ECNL and USSDA.

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              #7
              Seems unlikely given that ECNL for girls did nothing to stop the emergence of GDAP.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Seems unlikely given that ECNL for girls did nothing to stop the emergence of GDAP.
                GDAP for girls hasn't actually happened yet. And that's just US Soccer doing the first thing they could think of to actually try to stay relevant. ECNL and USYS National League were doing a fine job of providing highly competitive leagues and college showcases without US Soccer and the big honchos felt they must be missing out on some of the cash...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Seems unlikely given that ECNL for girls did nothing to stop the emergence of GDAP.
                  Time will tell how ECNL fares with GDA but they have been fighting behind the scenes to make sure top clubs stay in the league. Most likely we end up with two watered down smaller leagues, with probably variations locally depending on what clubs are involved in what league.

                  Boys DA would be more likey to stay a healthy, albeit possibly smaller league, because of the MLS teams, free tuition, promises of pro careers (that hardly ever happen). But a boys ECNL program will take a dent out of it for sure. NPL likely to suffer as well

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                    ECNL might think some clubs can sustain both a DA and ECNL team but given this ******* match I don't think US Soccer will allow it. My guess is US Soccer will force clubs to choose one or the other but won't allow clubs to field both in the same gender. It would be a conflict of interest for clubs. Pick one or the other, but clubs will not be able to both. It's ridiculous to think of having a boys DA and a boys ECNL team at the same club because one becomes a B team, versus competing clubs offering competing products.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      ECNL might think some clubs can sustain both a DA and ECNL team but given this ******* match I don't think US Soccer will allow it. My guess is US Soccer will force clubs to choose one or the other but won't allow clubs to field both in the same gender. It would be a conflict of interest for clubs. Pick one or the other, but clubs will not be able to both. It's ridiculous to think of having a boys DA and a boys ECNL team at the same club because one becomes a B team, versus competing clubs offering competing products.
                      When are we ever going to learn?
                      ECNL and the DA for boys is not a good fit for Oregon soccer. We simply do not have the personnel to teach our players properly. We really need to work at the development level and then progress into these academies. None of our clubs have a development plan. None of our DOC's monitor their coaching staff. None of our DOC's teach their coaching staff. A lot of the coaches are not willing to be taught. The list goes on and on. When are we all going to come to realize that we as parents are to blame because we are demanding of all the wrong things? Take a good look at your club and ask the question. Does our Technical director inspire and teach the coaching staff? Everything comes from the top. Because we have unqualified DOC's that cannot relate to people, the whole club suffers. It can be fixed but unfortunately we have too many people at the top that are unchallenged in their position.
                      It is very sad and it will only keep on getting worse.
                      Just my 2 cents worth.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        When are we ever going to learn?
                        ECNL and the DA for boys is not a good fit for Oregon soccer. We simply do not have the personnel to teach our players properly. We really need to work at the development level and then progress into these academies. None of our clubs have a development plan. None of our DOC's monitor their coaching staff. None of our DOC's teach their coaching staff. A lot of the coaches are not willing to be taught. The list goes on and on. When are we all going to come to realize that we as parents are to blame because we are demanding of all the wrong things? Take a good look at your club and ask the question. Does our Technical director inspire and teach the coaching staff? Everything comes from the top. Because we have unqualified DOC's that cannot relate to people, the whole club suffers. It can be fixed but unfortunately we have too many people at the top that are unchallenged in their position.
                        It is very sad and it will only keep on getting worse.
                        Just my 2 cents worth.
                        +1

                        Too many coaches with agendas that serve only themselves and their clubs bottom lines. What is the point of having a TD if they cannot develop their coaches under a unified curriculum. Clubs are failing the very kids they profess to teach and develop. This isn't just an OR problem. This is happening all over the country.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          ECNL might think some clubs can sustain both a DA and ECNL team but given this ******* match I don't think US Soccer will allow it. My guess is US Soccer will force clubs to choose one or the other but won't allow clubs to field both in the same gender. It would be a conflict of interest for clubs. Pick one or the other, but clubs will not be able to both. It's ridiculous to think of having a boys DA and a boys ECNL team at the same club because one becomes a B team, versus competing clubs offering competing products.
                          Sounds like someone from the OPL camp that threatened clubs who let their teams do both USCS and USYS.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            +1

                            Too many coaches with agendas that serve only themselves and their clubs bottom lines. What is the point of having a TD if they cannot develop their coaches under a unified curriculum. Clubs are failing the very kids they profess to teach and develop. This isn't just an OR problem. This is happening all over the country.
                            Why does nobody do anything about it? Having the Timbers run our league is a conflict of interest. When we had OPL run our league, there was a conflict of interest. The purpose they only want to serve is to keep them in a full time soccer position. No work through the day and then at night time they get their minions to run their 4 teams. OYSA said they have installed grass roots coaches. We have not even heard from one yet! When you try out in May, ask the DOC for their development plan and then watch them squirm.
                            Oregon soccer is a joke and everyone outside of Oregon know it. We are doing a poor job of teaching our children. When they go on to be coaches, they too will do a crappy job.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              +1

                              Too many coaches with agendas that serve only themselves and their clubs bottom lines. What is the point of having a TD if they cannot develop their coaches under a unified curriculum. Clubs are failing the very kids they profess to teach and develop. This isn't just an OR problem. This is happening all over the country.
                              Much it boils down to bad decisions by USSF, along with the hubris of ECNL. Each is trying to pi** on each other's territory so they can claim it as their own. You're right it isn't just a problem here but all over. There aren't enough quality players, coaches and clubs to have two large viable leagues that will raise US soccer. It's just going to be a watered down mess. Good that players have options, but overall it won't help us move forward

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