Timbers Stranglehold on OYSA

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I am speaking to when OPL split off. Not now and at the time ODP was what Oregon had. We are very familiar with it and the rate hike that ensued after OPL stop paying any share. My child at the time played at the region level and made the national pool. Once OPL pulled out it was outrageously expensive. Of course, compared to the what we are paying now for ECNL with much worse level of play on our team ODP was much better.

ODP is run by US Youth Soccer. OPL was US Club Soccer. US Club has it's own talent identification program, iD2. Why would a US Club league put money into the competitor's program. Even in it's heyday, Oregon ODP was still far inferior to what the ECNL offers today.

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ODP is run by US Youth Soccer. OPL was US Club Soccer. US Club has it's own talent identification program, iD2. Why would a US Club league put money into the competitor's program. Even in it's heyday, Oregon ODP was still far inferior to what the ECNL offers today.

Having kids that participated in both I have to call you out on absolute bull****. My child who played for a OPL team and played for ODP also participated in ID2 (which talking to inferior...). ODP at the region and national level are so far superior to anything that the state of Oregon can offer in an ECNL team, tournament or otherwise that it isn't even funny. The Oregon state teams were superior to ECNL... simply because they did not have to have two teams.

I get it, your DD plays ECNL and it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Others who have been around the block find it woefully inadequate.

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Having kids that participated in both I have to call you out on absolute bull****. My child who played for a OPL team and played for ODP also participated in ID2 (which talking to inferior...). ODP at the region and national level are so far superior to anything that the state of Oregon can offer in an ECNL team, tournament or otherwise that it isn't even funny. The Oregon state teams were superior to ECNL... simply because they did not have to have two teams.

I get it, your DD plays ECNL and it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Others who have been around the block find it woefully inadequate.

Well, if ODP is the cat's meow, how come the Timbers can't make it viable anymore? It's filled with Alliance "B" teamers and other mouth breathers. 90% of the real talent is in ECNL. Facts is facts.

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Well, if ODP is the cat's meow, how come the Timbers can't make it viable anymore? It's filled with Alliance "B" teamers and other mouth breathers. 90% of the real talent is in ECNL. Facts is facts.

ODP is no longer the cat's meow. I have news for you, neither is OREGON ECNL. Maybe 90% of the talent in Oregon plays there but unfortunately, they get to play with another 200% who shouldn't play at that level. It brings down the level of play and it makes for a system that has NO path for the highest level. I think the DA may be able to remedy some of this. Not over night of course but something needs to and will change.

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I agree with you. I will say that the Timbers support more programs than OPL ever did. As an example, ODP, TopSoccer and so forth. OPL paid for the league and kept the rest for themselves. We are affiliated with a once OPL team however I felt it was somewhat inadequate when they split.

Timber don't support top soccer and ODP sux balls, that is nothing to brag about.

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ODP is no longer the cat's meow. I have news for you, neither is OREGON ECNL. Maybe 90% of the talent in Oregon plays there but unfortunately, they get to play with another 200% who shouldn't play at that level. It brings down the level of play and it makes for a system that has NO path for the highest level. I think the DA may be able to remedy some of this. Not over night of course but something needs to and will change.

The only reason there is 10% of the talent missing from ECNL is due to money. The DA won't fix this. It costs money to travel.

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Well, if ODP is the cat's meow, how come the Timbers can't make it viable anymore? It's filled with Alliance "B" teamers and other mouth breathers. 90% of the real talent is in ECNL. Facts is facts.

Nice, anyone that is not playing ECNL is a mouth breather. I feel for your kid...

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Well, if ODP is the cat's meow, how come the Timbers can't make it viable anymore? It's filled with Alliance "B" teamers and other mouth breathers. 90% of the real talent is in ECNL. Facts is facts.

Who knows? It's bad though.

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ECNL is preparing for becoming 2nd tier. They see the writing on the wall.

Big market clubs are already preparing for shift.

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ECNL is preparing for becoming 2nd tier. They see the writing on the wall.

Big market clubs are already preparing for shift.

Keep thinking that. ECNL will still be #1. And there will be no DA in the NW

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The only reason there is 10% of the talent missing from ECNL is due to money. The DA won't fix this. It costs money to travel.

The problem isn't the 10% that is missing rather the 200% that shouldn't be there in the first place but can afford it. Everyone gets to play to the level of the weakest link which there is no shortage of.

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The problem isn't the 10% that is missing rather the 200% that shouldn't be there in the first place but can afford it. Everyone gets to play to the level of the weakest link which there is no shortage of.

Very true and most parents are not going to get it because their child not make the cut. A very unpopular direction for some.

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The problem isn't the 10% that is missing rather the 200% that shouldn't be there in the first place but can afford it. Everyone gets to play to the level of the weakest link which there is no shortage of.

Pretty sure they took the best players that had the guts to try out. 90% of the best players tried out and I'm sure they took them. Guaranteed there are no players at non-ECNL clubs that are better than the best players at the ECNL clubs. Fact.

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Pretty sure they took the best players that had the guts to try out. 90% of the best players tried out and I'm sure they took them. Guaranteed there are no players at non-ECNL clubs that are better than the best players at the ECNL clubs. Fact.

Guarantee that if you took the best players from each of the 2 teams and anyone else that is deemed to qualify and put them on ONE team they would outperform any of the two ECNL teams at each age group now in a huge way.

I think the point eludes you. My child plays ECNL so the 90% of good players which only amounts to 10-12 spread across 2 teams isn't cutting it.

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I think the point eludes you. My child plays ECNL so the 90% of good players which only amounts to 10-12 spread across 2 teams isn't cutting it.

If an academy could offer consolidation while reducing the cost in any way possible it very well might pull in a portion of the remaining 10%.