girls dap update

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It's always the ONYX parents on here yammering away. Wonder if they realize that their dd's are going away in a couple of years. It will be a real letdown for them to not live their lives weekly through them. So let me ask you Onyx dad, do you really think that you wouldn't have received offers without ECNL? If not, why were you paying for all of Tom's vacations for the past 5 years, traveling up and down the west coast and flying all over the country? Apparently Tom had you really fooled. Good thing ECNL came along so that you got something out of all this travel expense.

Since you suggest offers would have come without ECNL then please share Eastside, Copa's or whatever your top Timber choice is? According to you there should also be 10-15 from each of these clubs

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It doesn't matter what anyone says, you can use data published on a website, you are a Tom's lemming, you can speak your opinion about something not ECNL related and not be an ECNL parent and if you strike a cord, you will on of Tom's lemmings, you can talk about ECNL and not mention which club and you are still drinking Tom's Koolaid.

It's all good, the haters got to hate, what the Troll doesn't realize is that we all see through his blanket statements and it just makes him look ignorant, not you, or anyone else he bashes!

You have a great deal to learn about the meaning of anonymous forums. You have no friggin' idea who posted that. Sorry if facts bother you so much. I found the link very interesting and based on something other than your opinion.

- not the op

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I think my daughter would have received an offer without ECNL, but I don't think she would of had as many offers without ECNL.

There are far more college rosters spots out there than there are graduating ECNL players each year. ECNL isn't the only path to a college offer. But if you want to play on a top college program then absolutely it is the better path. Look at the rosters of top college programs and it will almost be exclusively ECNL players. Even if top D1 isn't your goal ECNL will make it easier to land in a good place. Coaches shop there first because, despite it's many flaws, it is currently the most competitive league out there. There are some top non ECNL clubs, but they typically dominate their less competitive leagues and still have to travel a great deal to face more challenging competitors.

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You love taking things out of context, let me put it back together for you:

You - 2016 commits were before ECNL....Tom sold you a bill of goods

Someone else - What about the U17's they were all after ECNL....and now they have their 14th

You - The garbage statement quote above

Seems like the only one that is fooled is you... sounds like everyone else is doing just fine, not sure you are.

Let me predict...

You - Me? .....then some slam on ECNL and specifically Tom.

And it goes on and on...because you hate him so much.
I would be curious if your manhood is okay with the fact that you are so obsessed with him, it seems truly unhealthy.

Are you really claiming the CU 17 class only got offers due to ecnl?

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There are far more college rosters spots out there than there are graduating ECNL players each year. ECNL isn't the only path to a college offer. But if you want to play on a top college program then absolutely it is the better path. Look at the rosters of top college programs and it will almost be exclusively ECNL players. Even if top D1 isn't your goal ECNL will make it easier to land in a good place. Coaches shop there first because, despite it's many flaws, it is currently the most competitive league out there. There are some top non ECNL clubs, but they typically dominate their less competitive leagues and still have to travel a great deal to face more challenging competitors.

If ECNL didn't exist those same girls would be getting those offers.

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If ECNL didn't exist those same girls would be getting those offers.

I would say offers, but not the same. Many girls in our age offers are contingent on their continuing to play in ECNL league

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I'm jumping in here, but agree you don't HAVE to play ECNL to get an offer, but that was the old model here in Oregon. I would also agree that the current graduating class had their resumes filled prior to ECNL.

I suspect you will see the fruits of their labor in 2017 and 18 classes locally. ECNL has almost a decade track record. A record that look pretty good.

But then I would also agree listing the non ECNL NLI's, where they are going for college and where they played prior would prove your point. I don't give a sh$t, so I'm not going to compile it, but the TA should start keeping records of their successes or those folks bad mouthing ECNL on here are going to take a beating in the very near future.

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I'm jumping in here, but agree you don't HAVE to play ECNL to get an offer, but that was the old model here in Oregon. I would also agree that the current graduating class had their resumes filled prior to ECNL.

I suspect you will see the fruits of their labor in 2017 and 18 classes locally. ECNL has almost a decade track record. A record that look pretty good.

But then I would also agree listing the non ECNL NLI's, where they are going for college and where they played prior would prove your point. I don't give a sh$t, so I'm not going to compile it, but the TA should start keeping records of their successes or those folks bad mouthing ECNL on here are going to take a beating in the very near future.

If you go to any of the Timber websites (Eastside, Vamcouver, Westside) you will find a ton of advertising and success. However you won't find any laundry list of girls that have signed NLIs in 2016. Both Westside and Eastside list commits, but it was from class of 2014. Eastside also list college girls, but only from 2014 and that included 2 for Warner Pacific, 1 Western Oregon, and 1 University of Idaho.

Cheers to those girls from 2014, but I would have thought I would have found at least 10-12 per club

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This isn't going to be pretty. No more playing nice. Girls mostly through the process are lucky they won't have to deal with the mess facing both leagues for the next few years.



The U.S. Soccer Federation is set to launch a Development Academy (DA) for girls in August 2017, replicating the DA for boys that it launched in 2007.

That the Federation hadn’t launched a girls DA earlier was attributed mainly to a couple of reasons.

One being that because the U.S. women’s national team was already a world power, there was more urgency on the boys side. Secondly, the U.S. Club-sanctioned ECNL -- the Elite Clubs National League – launched in 2009 and in many ways served the U.S. national team program (and college scouts) the way the DA has for the boys.

Last Friday, U.S. Soccer Technical Director April Heinrichs and U.S. Soccer Director of Sport Development Ryan Mooney met with ECNL and U.S. Club representatives.

“We went in there with the idea that we wanted to collaborate with the Federation to create anything that would raise the standards of the girls game and continue to improve the girls game,” said Christian Lavers, the president of the ECNL, which has 79 member clubs. “The Federation’s position was they considered collaborating with the ECNL [but] determined that they could raise standards in the game and change the game in all the ways they wanted to better and faster without us. …

“I can’t speak to why that is. In the world I live in, collaboration is almost always a valuable thing in multiple ways. … If something changes with respect to the Federation’s position, that’s great. But it was pretty clear in that meeting that collaboration and working together was something that they didn't want and did not feel was helpful. ...

"The input and support and buy-in of the ECNL clubs and coaches and the people in the grass-roots were not really a part of [the Federation's] process."

Lavers said the USSF representatives acknowledged that the ECNL had “done a lot of good things in the girls game and raised a lot standards.” Lavers pointed out that the ECNL has tried "very hard" to implement standards that the U.S. Soccer technical staff has said were important in girls development.

The ECNL plans to continue, which means the girls DA will have competition for the nation’s elite players unlike it faced on the boys side.

One major difference between the ECNL and the DA is that ECNL is age-pure; member clubs field teams at the five age groups, from U-14 to U-18. The DA teams field U-14, U-16 and U-18 teams. The DA bans players from participating in high school ball. The ECNL allows its players to play high school.

“We feel we have the best platform in the world because we have the input and ideas of the people who are on the ground and we are going to continue to operate that platform and continue to try and get better everyday with everything we do,” Lavers said. “We will continue to build a platform that serves the needs of the top players in the country and we will continue to keep looking to get better in all aspects.”

So ECNL is 2nd tier starting next year?

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Are you really claiming the CU 17 class only got offers due to ecnl?

Never said that either, showed the thread of the conversation, if you cannot follow, I cannot help you.

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I am fairly ambivalent about this matter, but there is something very odd.

Ecnl has done a very good job creating a system that works. USSF is completely ignoring them. Even in meetings, they are not interested in working with them. Why? Seems really odd. Makes me wonder what is going on behind the scenes.

I suppose it could be arrogance, but I like to believe that people are better than that.

Maybe there are great plans that they are waiting to spring on us.

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I am fairly ambivalent about this matter, but there is something very odd.

Ecnl has done a very good job creating a system that works. USSF is completely ignoring them. Even in meetings, they are not interested in working with them. Why? Seems really odd. Makes me wonder what is going on behind the scenes.

I suppose it could be arrogance, but I like to believe that people are better than that.

Maybe there are great plans that they are waiting to spring on us.

I will suggest that ussf very much wants to expand high level girls youth soccer to minority groups. Take a look at the us men's team roster and then the women's team. Look at the youth team rosters. The ecnl is a white upper middle class league. How many ecnl rosters are a third minority?

Also ussf is setting up a new league. Clubs interested must apply. Many or even most will be existing ecnl clubs but ussf cannot openly favor a club simply because
It was in the ecnl or discriminate against a club because it was not in ecnl.

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So ECNL is 2nd tier starting next year?

Yes, 2nd tier to the USWNT. Timbers Alliance is 2nd tier to Little Kickers bootball.

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I will suggest that ussf very much wants to expand high level girls youth soccer to minority groups. Take a look at the us men's team roster and then the women's team. Look at the youth team rosters. The ecnl is a white upper middle class league. How many ecnl rosters are a third minority?

Also ussf is setting up a new league. Clubs interested must apply. Many or even most will be existing ecnl clubs but ussf cannot openly favor a club simply because
It was in the ecnl or discriminate against a club because it was not in ecnl.

Not true. USSF can discriminate in any way they wish. And they will. Just wait and watch. This new DA will be still born.

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This isn't going to be pretty. No more playing nice. Girls mostly through the process are lucky they won't have to deal with the mess facing both leagues for the next few years.



The U.S. Soccer Federation is set to launch a Development Academy (DA) for girls in August 2017, replicating the DA for boys that it launched in 2007.

That the Federation hadn’t launched a girls DA earlier was attributed mainly to a couple of reasons.

One being that because the U.S. women’s national team was already a world power, there was more urgency on the boys side. Secondly, the U.S. Club-sanctioned ECNL -- the Elite Clubs National League – launched in 2009 and in many ways served the U.S. national team program (and college scouts) the way the DA has for the boys.

Last Friday, U.S. Soccer Technical Director April Heinrichs and U.S. Soccer Director of Sport Development Ryan Mooney met with ECNL and U.S. Club representatives.

“We went in there with the idea that we wanted to collaborate with the Federation to create anything that would raise the standards of the girls game and continue to improve the girls game,” said Christian Lavers, the president of the ECNL, which has 79 member clubs. “The Federation’s position was they considered collaborating with the ECNL [but] determined that they could raise standards in the game and change the game in all the ways they wanted to better and faster without us. …

“I can’t speak to why that is. In the world I live in, collaboration is almost always a valuable thing in multiple ways. … If something changes with respect to the Federation’s position, that’s great. But it was pretty clear in that meeting that collaboration and working together was something that they didn't want and did not feel was helpful. ...

"The input and support and buy-in of the ECNL clubs and coaches and the people in the grass-roots were not really a part of [the Federation's] process."

Lavers said the USSF representatives acknowledged that the ECNL had “done a lot of good things in the girls game and raised a lot standards.” Lavers pointed out that the ECNL has tried "very hard" to implement standards that the U.S. Soccer technical staff has said were important in girls development.

The ECNL plans to continue, which means the girls DA will have competition for the nation’s elite players unlike it faced on the boys side.

One major difference between the ECNL and the DA is that ECNL is age-pure; member clubs field teams at the five age groups, from U-14 to U-18. The DA teams field U-14, U-16 and U-18 teams. The DA bans players from participating in high school ball. The ECNL allows its players to play high school.

“We feel we have the best platform in the world because we have the input and ideas of the people who are on the ground and we are going to continue to operate that platform and continue to try and get better everyday with everything we do,” Lavers said. “We will continue to build a platform that serves the needs of the top players in the country and we will continue to keep looking to get better in all aspects.”

Doesn't seem fair to kick ECNL to the curb like that. It will still be a fun league to be in.