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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Are you really that dense? Soccer is not even on the radar for american athletes as a sport to choose over American Football, Basketball or Baseball. We stink a soccer because human beings have a basic instinct to excel a something that offers rewards and prestige. Please understand this at the basic simple level NO ONE CARES ABOUT SOCCER in the U.S.
    Glad you do, but those american athletes that could elevate the game in the states will never stay with it, as they have more attractive sports that will get them scholarships, TV exposure and national recognition. Corporate sponsors and money flowing into their sports and it's not the parents footing the bill. Relying on suburban families pocketbooks to develop the game of soccer is a paradise only you can understand.

    Just like the Italian kids who dream about being Michael Jordan and LeBron James in basketball, it's tough to develop in Italy when everyone in their home county supports and lives and dies with Soccer and they are left competing against the lessor tools who opt for basketball. Just like the american kids who dream of being Messi, good luck with that.

    An interest and passion is required for a country regardless of the population, NO ONE CARES ABOUT SOCCER IN THE US.

    We have NOT ONE world class players in the Sport of Soccer from the U.S.
    Which athletes are you thinking would launch US soccer? LeBron? Tom Brady? Mike Trout? None of those guys would make a world class soccer player regardless of focus at a young age. Look at the best players in the world. They aren't 6'4" 250lb linebackers. How many of our top pro players are under 5'10"? More than half of Barcelona's starting 11 are sheeter than 5'10".

    My point is we probably already have the right athletes playing. We just don't train nearly as much as our foreign counterparts. That's the difference. Their 12yr olds are playing 20hrs per week year round. Our high level club players are playing 8 hours per week. That's the difference. We need our soccer athletes training like the rest of the top countries in the world. Plugging in a ' better athlete' without the skills would actually set us further back, not propel us to the top.

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      US Soccer Girls DA taking Applications

      http://www.ussoccerda.com/girls-academy-application. Should know who has what by September.

      Timeline:

      May 2, 2016 - Club Applications Open Online
      May 3 - 19, 2016 - Webinar Information Sessions for Interested Clubs
      July 1, 2016 at 11:59 p.m. CT - Last day to submit an application. Clubs will be selected on a rolling basis throughout the remainder of the 2016 calendar year
      September 1, 2017 - Start of the 2017-2018 Girls' Development Academy season

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Which athletes are you thinking would launch US soccer? LeBron? Tom Brady? Mike Trout? None of those guys would make a world class soccer player regardless of focus at a young age. Look at the best players in the world. They aren't 6'4" 250lb linebackers. How many of our top pro players are under 5'10"? More than half of Barcelona's starting 11 are sheeter than 5'10".

        My point is we probably already have the right athletes playing. We just don't train nearly as much as our foreign counterparts. That's the difference. Their 12yr olds are playing 20hrs per week year round. Our high level club players are playing 8 hours per week. That's the difference. We need our soccer athletes training like the rest of the top countries in the world. Plugging in a ' better athlete' without the skills would actually set us further back, not propel us to the top.
        By "playing", do you mean only formal training and organized matches, or any touches with the ball? If the only time a player touches a ball is when s/he is under the gaze of the coach, yeah, s/he isn't going to get all that better.

        Most foreign 12-year-olds aren't being coached 20hrs/week, no more than American 12-year-olds are spending that amount of time in Little League or Pee Wee football or club basketball. They're playing in the streets or at the park, or wherever they can play. Just like American basketballers playing hoops in the driveway for hours, or dribbling a basketball to school. Just like American kids playing catch in the street, with whatever ball they can find, with or without a glove.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Are you really that dense? Soccer is not even on the radar for american athletes as a sport to choose over American Football, Basketball or Baseball. We stink a soccer because human beings have a basic instinct to excel a something that offers rewards and prestige. Please understand this at the basic simple level NO ONE CARES ABOUT SOCCER in the U.S.
          Glad you do, but those american athletes that could elevate the game in the states will never stay with it, as they have more attractive sports that will get them scholarships, TV exposure and national recognition. Corporate sponsors and money flowing into their sports and it's not the parents footing the bill. Relying on suburban families pocketbooks to develop the game of soccer is a paradise only you can understand.

          Just like the Italian kids who dream about being Michael Jordan and LeBron James in basketball, it's tough to develop in Italy when everyone in their home county supports and lives and dies with Soccer and they are left competing against the lessor tools who opt for basketball. Just like the american kids who dream of being Messi, good luck with that.

          An interest and passion is required for a country regardless of the population, NO ONE CARES ABOUT SOCCER IN THE US.

          We have NOT ONE world class players in the Sport of Soccer from the U.S.
          Lots of people care about soccer in the US. Otherwise we wouldn't have a successful (if second-tier) pro league, a men's national team that regularly finishes in the top half of the World Cup, a woman's team that regularly wins it--and an Internet forum where you come to talk about that which you assert nobody cares about.

          Twenty, thirty years ago, your statement was far closer to accurate--soccer was a sport little kids played to keep them busy on Saturday; the MLS was a sideshow (or didn't exist at all), and many people thought it was otherwise a sport for swarthy foreigners of questionable masculinity. Those days are dying; the culture has changed.

          And if you look across the pond, an American teenager is making MAJOR waves in the Bundesliga. If you haven't ever heard the name Christian Pulisic, I suggest you read up. This kid is good enough that the idea of him lifting a Ballon d'Or one day isn't laughable. Might not happen, but I'm almost willing to be a beer (and might make this wager if this weren't an anonymous chat room) that he'll be going to Russia in 2018 as a 19-year-old. And no--he's not an Army brat or GI lovechild that Klinsmann managed to find under a stone in Bavaria; this is a born-and-raised-in-the-US kid who isn't yet old enough to vote.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            http://www.ussoccerda.com/girls-academy-application. Should know who has what by September.

            Timeline:

            May 2, 2016 - Club Applications Open Online
            May 3 - 19, 2016 - Webinar Information Sessions for Interested Clubs
            July 1, 2016 at 11:59 p.m. CT - Last day to submit an application. Clubs will be selected on a rolling basis throughout the remainder of the 2016 calendar year
            September 1, 2017 - Start of the 2017-2018 Girls' Development Academy season
            I can tell you right now. About 8 teams in SoCal, 8 in Texas, 8 in the Midwest, 8 in the southeast, and 8 in the northeast. They're going to go where the population is and that isn't in the Pacific NW.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I can tell you right now. About 8 teams in SoCal, 8 in Texas, 8 in the Midwest, 8 in the southeast, and 8 in the northeast. They're going to go where the population is and that isn't in the Pacific NW.
              You aren't involved in any type of discussions to know what is being considered at this time.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Which athletes are you thinking would launch US soccer? LeBron? Tom Brady? Mike Trout? None of those guys would make a world class soccer player regardless of focus at a young age. Look at the best players in the world. They aren't 6'4" 250lb linebackers. How many of our top pro players are under 5'10"? More than half of Barcelona's starting 11 are sheeter than 5'10".

                My point is we probably already have the right athletes playing. We just don't train nearly as much as our foreign counterparts. That's the difference. Their 12yr olds are playing 20hrs per week year round. Our high level club players are playing 8 hours per week. That's the difference. We need our soccer athletes training like the rest of the top countries in the world. Plugging in a ' better athlete' without the skills would actually set us further back, not propel us to the top.

                We don' have access in the U.S. to all the right athletes playing. They choose other sports from a young age. Just think if they choose Soccer with 100% desire and commitment to soccer. I can dream.

                Soccer at the global level is full of elite athletes especially in Defense where the priority is placed-Speed, Power, Quickness.

                Not to mention the attacking forwards and wide players are blessed with pace and power.

                Can you imagine the best baseball shortstops/basketball point guards and how they would fit the bill for central midfielde?

                The defensive backs in American Football are the same geno type of the outside backs that resemble the likes of Ashley Cole. 5'9 to 6'0 types with Denandre Yedlin types. but stronger mentally sharp athletes, that take no prisoners.


                Hey your right we get all the right kind of athletes playing soccer for the USA. Results don't lie. Good point.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Lots of people care about soccer in the US. Otherwise we wouldn't have a successful (if second-tier) pro league, a men's national team that regularly finishes in the top half of the World Cup, a woman's team that regularly wins it--and an Internet forum where you come to talk about that which you assert nobody cares about.

                  Twenty, thirty years ago, your statement was far closer to accurate--soccer was a sport little kids played to keep them busy on Saturday; the MLS was a sideshow (or didn't exist at all), and many people thought it was otherwise a sport for swarthy foreigners of questionable masculinity. Those days are dying; the culture has changed.

                  And if you look across the pond, an American teenager is making MAJOR waves in the Bundesliga. If you haven't ever heard the name Christian Pulisic, I suggest you read up. This kid is good enough that the idea of him lifting a Ballon d'Or one day isn't laughable. Might not happen, but I'm almost willing to be a beer (and might make this wager if this weren't an anonymous chat room) that he'll be going to Russia in 2018 as a 19-year-old. And no--he's not an Army brat or GI lovechild that Klinsmann managed to find under a stone in Bavaria; this is a born-and-raised-in-the-US kid who isn't yet old enough to vote.
                  Being aware that some people play soccer in America is hardly an edict that the country CARES about Soccer.

                  When an American Professional Soccer league has millions of viewers for their 1 game a week schedule like the NFL does. When the gatorade ad features an american scoring a bicycle kick in the World Cup championship just like Micheal Jordan dunking from the free-throw line and we have 90,000 seat stadiums packed to capacity with the likes of CBS, NBC, ABC & ESPN paying billions of dollars for the domestic TV rights to broadcast games featuring American soccer players, then yes, AMERICA AS A NATION CARES about soccer. Until then keep chanting "I believe that we will" and post on blogs for the American Outlaws and Sam's Army.

                  RCTID.....

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Being aware that some people play soccer in America is hardly an edict that the country CARES about Soccer.

                    When an American Professional Soccer league has millions of viewers for their 1 game a week schedule like the NFL does. When the gatorade ad features an american scoring a bicycle kick in the World Cup championship just like Micheal Jordan dunking from the free-throw line and we have 90,000 seat stadiums packed to capacity with the likes of CBS, NBC, ABC & ESPN paying billions of dollars for the domestic TV rights to broadcast games featuring American soccer players, then yes, AMERICA AS A NATION CARES about soccer. Until then keep chanting "I believe that we will" and post on blogs for the American Outlaws and Sam's Army.

                    RCTID.....
                    The objective currently is NOT to play in the MLS. It's to play in the Champions league. It's like foreign players wanting to play in the NBA or MLB. Those are the top leagues across the globe. Stop talking about the MLS and whether the dollars are there or not. That's not the ultimate goal.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Lots of people care about soccer in the US. Otherwise we wouldn't have a successful (if second-tier) pro league, a men's national team that regularly finishes in the top half of the World Cup, a woman's team that regularly wins it--and an Internet forum where you come to talk about that which you assert nobody cares about.

                      Twenty, thirty years ago, your statement was far closer to accurate--soccer was a sport little kids played to keep them busy on Saturday; the MLS was a sideshow (or didn't exist at all), and many people thought it was otherwise a sport for swarthy foreigners of questionable masculinity. Those days are dying; the culture has changed.

                      And if you look across the pond, an American teenager is making MAJOR waves in the Bundesliga. If you haven't ever heard the name Christian Pulisic, I suggest you read up. This kid is good enough that the idea of him lifting a Ballon d'Or one day isn't laughable. Might not happen, but I'm almost willing to be a beer (and might make this wager if this weren't an anonymous chat room) that he'll be going to Russia in 2018 as a 19-year-old. And no--he's not an Army brat or GI lovechild that Klinsmann managed to find under a stone in Bavaria; this is a born-and-raised-in-the-US kid who isn't yet old enough to vote.
                      Way to go to jump on the band wagon! Really!!! One player from a country of 350 million and this means you are getting it right? We will never get it right because we have the biggest ego's in the world and are very bad at working as a team. Whether it's politics, work force or sports. We suck at coming together as a unit.

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                        Such bipolar thinking

                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Being aware that some people play soccer in America is hardly an edict that the country CARES about Soccer.

                        When an American Professional Soccer league has millions of viewers for their 1 game a week schedule like the NFL does. When the gatorade ad features an american scoring a bicycle kick in the World Cup championship just like Micheal Jordan dunking from the free-throw line and we have 90,000 seat stadiums packed to capacity with the likes of CBS, NBC, ABC & ESPN paying billions of dollars for the domestic TV rights to broadcast games featuring American soccer players, then yes, AMERICA AS A NATION CARES about soccer. Until then keep chanting "I believe that we will" and post on blogs for the American Outlaws and Sam's Army.

                        RCTID.....
                        There's a big difference between "nobody cares" and "soccer is the #1 sport". In some parts of the country, nobody does care. In others, people care a great deal. Merritt Paulsen could build a stadium twice as big as Prov Park and sell it out. Up north, the Flounders routinely sell out the clink, which while not 90k, is about 70k.

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                          Here is a clear response

                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          There's a big difference between "nobody cares" and "soccer is the #1 sport". In some parts of the country, nobody does care. In others, people care a great deal. Merritt Paulsen could build a stadium twice as big as Prov Park and sell it out. Up north, the Flounders routinely sell out the clink, which while not 90k, is about 70k.
                          Ricky Gervais on behalf of the American Sports fan (Verizon) and the claims of other networks (soccer)


                          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kFM-1y9Ed3s

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                            Gotta start somewhere

                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Way to go to jump on the band wagon! Really!!! One player from a country of 350 million and this means you are getting it right? We will never get it right because we have the biggest ego's in the world and are very bad at working as a team. Whether it's politics, work force or sports. We suck at coming together as a unit.
                            One, after all, is better than zero.

                            The rest of your post is nonsense. We must suck at all sports with those character deficiencies--except we don't. The reason we're not a great soccer nation is listed above--it's not the predominant sport in our cultural DNA. Kids have grown up dreaming of being the next Michael Jordan or Joe Montana or Albert Pujols or Sidney Crosby, not the next Pele, Beckenbauer, Cruyff, or Messi. Kids go to the park and shoot hoops, or throw around a football, or when they get enough of 'em, organize a game of stickball or baseball or whatever equipment they have.

                            But at least around here, out in white-collar Beaverton, I know **TONS** of kids who idolize Messi and Stephen Curry, not any American football or baseball players. The kids around here are working on their touches--in the park, in the street, against a wall, in the living room. Some of them are my kids, and many more are their friends, so that's not a representative sample... but the culture is is changing. Twenty-two years ago, when the Cup was in the US, the commentators had to explain the rules of the game to the American audience. Nowadays, EPL games are all over ESPN, and you'll never see the announcer having to tell the viewers what a yellow card is for.

                            It's coming.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Lots of people care about soccer in the US. Otherwise we wouldn't have a successful (if second-tier) pro league, a men's national team that regularly finishes in the top half of the World Cup, a woman's team that regularly wins it--and an Internet forum where you come to talk about that which you assert nobody cares about.

                              Twenty, thirty years ago, your statement was far closer to accurate--soccer was a sport little kids played to keep them busy on Saturday; the MLS was a sideshow (or didn't exist at all), and many people thought it was otherwise a sport for swarthy foreigners of questionable masculinity. Those days are dying; the culture has changed.

                              And if you look across the pond, an American teenager is making MAJOR waves in the Bundesliga. If you haven't ever heard the name Christian Pulisic, I suggest you read up. This kid is good enough that the idea of him lifting a Ballon d'Or one day isn't laughable. Might not happen, but I'm almost willing to be a beer (and might make this wager if this weren't an anonymous chat room) that he'll be going to Russia in 2018 as a 19-year-old. And no--he's not an Army brat or GI lovechild that Klinsmann managed to find under a stone in Bavaria; this is a born-and-raised-in-the-US kid who isn't yet old enough to vote.
                              Is this next Freddy Adu?


                              Can't wait.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Is this next Freddy Adu?


                                Can't wait.
                                Survey says no. Adu made lots of bad choices--and seeing how he was only 14 when drafted, had lots of bad choices made on his behalf. Pulisic has been with Dortmund's youth team for a while, and has earned his way onto the first team--and has produced quality results while there.

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