Oregon ECNL results to date

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Yes, and for the 75% of girls that go to college to play soccer and aren't the "top" players, ECNL will definitely help them get more opportunities than without ECNL.

And better prepared. Just the frequency of training and the level of games, and the structure helps the preparation. That is just according to the PAC12 commentators, that freshman are coming in better prepared due to the existence of ECNL.

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And better prepared. Just the frequency of training and the level of games, and the structure helps the preparation. That is just according to the PAC12 commentators, that freshman are coming in better prepared due to the existence of ECNL.

Not to mention the better coaching.


BTW. That was sarcasm.

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Not to mention the better coaching.


BTW. That was sarcasm.

You can have your sarcasm all you want. However just practicing 46 plus weeks a year and doing it three times a week is an improvement. Playing teams that normally you could only play in a semi or final game in a tournament and especially being able to play their players, that you would not have the opportunity to play until in college helps. I get that the Oregon teams are not setting the league on fire, but the girls get all the benefits anyway. It is okay if you don't think so, it really is. For those that go onto to play college, they will be better prepared just from the training to game ratio being more like college. And also seeing the level on the field that they will have to play with and against in college. The speed of play is much different than the local leagues, and the girls will benefit from being exposed to that before college. Again, you don't have to agree, and you can be sarcastic, but it feels like everyone is actually tearing it down out of fear that the ECNL actually might be doing some benefit to the girls that are playing it.

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You can have your sarcasm all you want. However just practicing 46 plus weeks a year and doing it three times a week is an improvement. Playing teams that normally you could only play in a semi or final game in a tournament and especially being able to play their players, that you would not have the opportunity to play until in college helps. I get that the Oregon teams are not setting the league on fire, but the girls get all the benefits anyway. It is okay if you don't think so, it really is. For those that go onto to play college, they will be better prepared just from the training to game ratio being more like college. And also seeing the level on the field that they will have to play with and against in college. The speed of play is much different than the local leagues, and the girls will benefit from being exposed to that before college. Again, you don't have to agree, and you can be sarcastic, but it feels like everyone is actually tearing it down out of fear that the ECNL actually might be doing some benefit to the girls that are playing it.

If you want to play against better/faster competition, play the boys. Just saved you $10,000.

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Not to mention the better coaching.


BTW. That was sarcasm.

Much better than at your TA club, there is no doubt about that.

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If you want to play against better/faster competition, play the boys. Just saved you $10,000.

That only works before about U12. Even the USWNT can't beat mediocre U16 boys club teams in scrimmages.

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You can have your sarcasm all you want. However just practicing 46 plus weeks a year and doing it three times a week is an improvement. Playing teams that normally you could only play in a semi or final game in a tournament and especially being able to play their players, that you would not have the opportunity to play until in college helps. I get that the Oregon teams are not setting the league on fire, but the girls get all the benefits anyway. It is okay if you don't think so, it really is. For those that go onto to play college, they will be better prepared just from the training to game ratio being more like college. And also seeing the level on the field that they will have to play with and against in college. The speed of play is much different than the local leagues, and the girls will benefit from being exposed to that before college. Again, you don't have to agree, and you can be sarcastic, but it feels like everyone is actually tearing it down out of fear that the ECNL actually might be doing some benefit to the girls that are playing it.

46 plus weeks of bad coaching does wonders for development.

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Don't see any 2018s in there from CU ECNL, much less 2019s. Funny, they are committing from other ECNL clubs. Pac 12 knows where the quality is. And isn't.

You need to re-look at the list again. Currently most 2018s are just in the beginning process as many schools except Power 5 schools are still not done with 2017s. The question needs to be asked by 2017s is why so few commits in 2017 class?

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You can have your sarcasm all you want. However just practicing 46 plus weeks a year and doing it three times a week is an improvement. Playing teams that normally you could only play in a semi or final game in a tournament and especially being able to play their players, that you would not have the opportunity to play until in college helps. I get that the Oregon teams are not setting the league on fire, but the girls get all the benefits anyway. It is okay if you don't think so, it really is. For those that go onto to play college, they will be better prepared just from the training to game ratio being more like college. And also seeing the level on the field that they will have to play with and against in college. The speed of play is much different than the local leagues, and the girls will benefit from being exposed to that before college. Again, you don't have to agree, and you can be sarcastic, but it feels like everyone is actually tearing it down out of fear that the ECNL actually might be doing some benefit to the girls that are playing it.

Oh I agree that ECNL can do wonders for development. I know the level of players that are out there. My dd does too. However, she got great development in a TA club before she moved over to ECNL. And her TA team was significantly better than any of the predecessor ECNL teams. And her college class includes WMT players from the US and other countries. However, the development she got at ECNL feeder clubs vs TA clubs was terrible. Sorry. The ECNL feeder clubs were not good for development. And just let me tell you, if a player isn't competitive, isn't driven, isn't focused, .... I don't care what club team she is on, it won't come through in recruiting and it won't come through in college. Sure, you are on an ECNL team, but you need a lot more than that for success in recruiting and beyond. A lot of dropping the books at 10 pm, going out and running the hills. A lot of going to the HS on your own to work on skills. A lot of pushing yourself when your friends are sleeping, doing homework or having fun. ECNL is only a piece of the equation. And in many ways, an insignificant piece since you better have the other elements, otherwise playing against the top competition, getting all this exposure, training more, ... does nothing.

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46 plus weeks of bad coaching does wonders for development.

Just need to look at Thorns Academy or any Timbers Alliance team to know that.

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Oh I agree that ECNL can do wonders for development. I know the level of players that are out there. My dd does too. However, she got great development in a TA club before she moved over to ECNL. And her TA team was significantly better than any of the predecessor ECNL teams. And her college class includes WMT players from the US and other countries. However, the development she got at ECNL feeder clubs vs TA clubs was terrible. Sorry. The ECNL feeder clubs were not good for development. And just let me tell you, if a player isn't competitive, isn't driven, isn't focused, .... I don't care what club team she is on, it won't come through in recruiting and it won't come through in college. Sure, you are on an ECNL team, but you need a lot more than that for success in recruiting and beyond. A lot of dropping the books at 10 pm, going out and running the hills. A lot of going to the HS on your own to work on skills. A lot of pushing yourself when your friends are sleeping, doing homework or having fun. ECNL is only a piece of the equation. And in many ways, an insignificant piece since you better have the other elements, otherwise playing against the top competition, getting all this exposure, training more, ... does nothing.

You can have all those "elements" you talk about but if you're playing on a Timbers team in HS, you aren't going to a decent college.

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Tell that to the four or five TA girls who got Pac 12 offers over the past three years.

I think what you really mean is that other than the top 2 girls on ECNL teams who have hopes to play Pac 12. The rest of the ECNL girls can go buy tickets to watch them play. Portland ECNL girls anyway. And for some Portland teams, not even the top 2 girls will sniff the Pac 12.

Ok. Play ECNL or hope you are the one (two in a good year) TA player per year who makes a D1 squad. Don't worry, if GDAP gets established, then GDAP might replace ECNL and you can hate on GDAP. Most top players in Oregon are going ECNL right now because it gives them the best shot at college soccer. Nothing personal.

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You can have all those "elements" you talk about but if you're playing on a Timbers team in HS, you aren't going to a decent college.

So says the peanut gallery. Please post what great college your dd got offers to. I don't expect you to ever reply, since it's easier to be a coward then to post "none".

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Ok. Play ECNL or hope you are the one (two in a good year) TA player per year who makes a D1 squad. Don't worry, if GDAP gets established, then GDAP might replace ECNL and you can hate on GDAP. Most top players in Oregon are going ECNL right now because it gives them the best shot at college soccer. Nothing personal.

That's about what ECNL teams are going to put into Pac 12 schools in an average year. Even the great "ONYX" didn't put much more than that in and I thought that team was "the greatest team from Oregon ever". At least that's what their parents proclaim. So ECNL teams are going to put in 1-2, maybe 3, in a year, TA teams the same. Nothing personal, just pointing out the flaws in your statement.

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46 plus weeks of bad coaching does wonders for development.

Just look at the Oregon ECNL results over the past two years for proof of this. .200 winning percentages, -50 GDs, ... that's what teams get from ECNL coaching. The results are as bad as everyone said they would be. Maybe worse.