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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    you people crack me up. you honestly believe that 4, 6, 10 months automatically makes a kid better than another. ever looked at a high school roster? truly competitive and talented players are more than capable of playing with kids that are years older, much less months.

    get a grip
    Get a grip & get realistic. The Aug-Dec kids on our current u14 team are all going to have a seriously tough time cracking onto the roster, much less the starting lineup!, of our current top ranked u15 team (many current starters are Jan-July on the older team). Some will hang on, a few will be successful, but more will quit looking down the road as a bench or B player from here on out after always being an A team player with a ton of minutes up till now. Plus, they will have been booted off their team. Suddenly, soccer won't be nearly as much fun or worth it anymore. Our particular team is mostly 2001s but only one or two can compete well on a 2001 birth A team. Realistically, I see 5-10 of the rest quitting club soccer within another year. Of course, 75% quit soccer anyway so maybe it will be a wash with the Jan-July kids who will now become impact players and won't quit now. Perhaps we're just switching who quits. But switching mid-stream will cause a few more to quit I think.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Get a grip & get realistic. The Aug-Dec kids on our current u14 team are all going to have a seriously tough time cracking onto the roster, much less the starting lineup!, of our current top ranked u15 team (many current starters are Jan-July on the older team). Some will hang on, a few will be successful, but more will quit looking down the road as a bench or B player from here on out after always being an A team player with a ton of minutes up till now. Plus, they will have been booted off their team. Suddenly, soccer won't be nearly as much fun or worth it anymore. Our particular team is mostly 2001s but only one or two can compete well on a 2001 birth A team. Realistically, I see 5-10 of the rest quitting club soccer within another year. Of course, 75% quit soccer anyway so maybe it will be a wash with the Jan-July kids who will now become impact players and won't quit now. Perhaps we're just switching who quits. But switching mid-stream will cause a few more to quit I think.
      My dd's friends are Freshman and Sophomores. Her and her friends are playing varsity H.S. soccer against kids 1,2 an 3 years older. Six months is a bump in the road. What a bunch of whining, they will suck it up and get better or be a quitter. Stop making excuses for bad athletes.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Most families will be happy to pay a nominal $400 extra per year as long as it benefits the US men's national team.

        Jurgen Klinsman earns a paltry $3,000,000 per year. We can and should do better. Let do this people!

        Time to get priorities straight.
        How much does the women's national team coach make? Jill Ellis.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          My dd's friends are Freshman and Sophomores. Her and her friends are playing varsity H.S. soccer against kids 1,2 an 3 years older. Six months is a bump in the road. What a bunch of whining, they will suck it up and get better or be a quitter. Stop making excuses for bad athletes.
          California is already making the switch and having birth year trainings. It will all work out fine and everyone who loves soccer will have a place to play. Some fall kids will be challenged but they'll be better for it. New opportunities and friendships for everyone.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The word on the street is that fees will rise to offset the losses of revenue. Some incremental costs will go down since there will be less kids, but for fixed costs fees hikes are the answer.

            As long as you explain this will benefit the US Mens National team, most families will be just fine with the fee hike.
            Losses of 10% of the census on the girls side will have an effect, but as has been mentioned many times the answer is to raise fees to offset the lost revenue.

            This is an important change and the effect of breaking up teams and causing some kids to quit is nothing compared to the value we get for the men's national team.

            Smart clubs will proactively raise fees now and not wait.

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              If a girls is playing soccer because of her friendships or starts soccer at 7 years old because she wants to play with school friends then that is a poor reflection on parenting skills. They should want to be better players for the love of the game and what they can contribute to the bigger picture - namely cash upstream to US Soccer.

              Girls should be willing to drop their friends on a moments notice and go find new ones. That's what mature, well adjusted kids do.

              I am so sick of hearing about kids wanting to play with friends. Go join girl scouts or have a tea party.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                If a girls is playing soccer because of her friendships or starts soccer at 7 years old because she wants to play with school friends then that is a poor reflection on parenting skills. They should want to be better players for the love of the game and what they can contribute to the bigger picture - namely cash upstream to US Soccer.

                Girls should be willing to drop their friends on a moments notice and go find new ones. That's what mature, well adjusted kids do.

                I am so sick of hearing about kids wanting to play with friends. Go join girl scouts or have a tea party.
                And furthermore, if they aren't asking for you to take them to the field to train for an hour on their own each day, that means you have totally failed in your parenting to make them highly competitive and to have the burning desire to be the best. Kids should be begging you for new training equipment instead of toys or games for Christmas. Their birthday parties should involve a soccer training skills session for they and all of their friends. And if they aren't watching soccer on Saturday mornings rather than cartoons or Nick, then you have failed as a parent.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Losses of 10% of the census on the girls side will have an effect, but as has been mentioned many times the answer is to raise fees to offset the lost revenue.

                  This is an important change and the effect of breaking up teams and causing some kids to quit is nothing compared to the value we get for the men's national team.

                  Smart clubs will proactively raise fees now and not wait.
                  Soccer is not for fun. Get that through your thick skull. The more girls we can get to quit that aren't serious, the better.

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                    It's official I received an e-mail from the club stating that the calandar year will be implemented at next try-outs.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      It's official I received an e-mail from the club stating that the calandar year will be implemented at next try-outs.
                      What rock have you been under?

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        It's official I received an e-mail from the club stating that the calandar year will be implemented at next try-outs.
                        Which club? We got one from CFC. Said still waiting on some details from OYSA like 8th-9th grade issue about what league will offer 2002s in fall of 2016.

                        Bend, NEU & FCP have all sent out birth year notifications already. Any other clubs communicating?

                        The birth year train has left the station.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Which club? We got one from CFC. Said still waiting on some details from OYSA like 8th-9th grade issue about what league will offer 2002s in fall of 2016.

                          Bend, NEU & FCP have all sent out birth year notifications already. Any other clubs communicating?

                          The birth year train has left the station.
                          Westside

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            If a girls is playing soccer because of her friendships or starts soccer at 7 years old because she wants to play with school friends then that is a poor reflection on parenting skills. They should want to be better players for the love of the game and what they can contribute to the bigger picture - namely cash upstream to US Soccer.

                            Girls should be willing to drop their friends on a moments notice and go find new ones. That's what mature, well adjusted kids do.

                            I am so sick of hearing about kids wanting to play with friends. Go join girl scouts or have a tea party.
                            This will only improve the quality of the pool of talent. Might lose some late bloomers but that's not a big deal.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              It's official I received an e-mail from the club stating that the calandar year will be implemented at next try-outs.
                              Delaying the inevitable for one year will hurt them long term.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Which club? We got one from CFC. Said still waiting on some details from OYSA like 8th-9th grade issue about what league will offer 2002s in fall of 2016.

                                Bend, NEU & FCP have all sent out birth year notifications already. Any other clubs communicating?

                                The birth year train has left the station.
                                Bridlemile is having the players practice by birth year.

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