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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    So interesting fact, since all of this is so that the Men's national team can get better.


    Current roster birthday's for the USMNT

    3 Feb
    2 March
    1 April
    1 June
    4 July
    1 August
    2 Sept
    4 Oct
    4 Nov
    1 Dec
    Exactly. They are too dependent on the Aug-Dec players and want to be 100% Jan-July. That's why the change at youth levels.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Exactly. They are too dependent on the Aug-Dec players and want to be 100% Jan-July. That's why the change at youth levels.
      Exactly, Klinsman wants to emulate Germany - the national team with the highest percentage of first qtr of year birthdays. U.S. Soccer literally wants the late in year players out - it's their fault we suck.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        It doesn't make any sense. It's their not so subtle way of telling the fall bday players that they are no longer wanted. Please leave and find another sport! You all are the reason the USMNT sucks. Move onto some other sport and stop lessening our RAE on the Jan-Apr players.
        How can you be this stupid? It's not fair for fall birthdays? What about spring birthdays under the current system? How can you not comprehend this? Boo hoo your child who used to be oldest is now youngest. I guess you can now experience what the other half has always dealt with.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          How can you be this stupid? It's not fair for fall birthdays? What about spring birthdays under the current system? How can you not comprehend this? Boo hoo your child who used to be oldest is now youngest. I guess you can now experience what the other half has always dealt with.
          I am in no way saying it is unfair, nor boo-hooing. I'm saying US Soccer thinks the USMNT & youth boys national teams suck because the current system waters down the RAE to the oldest kids (Jan+) by giving it to the Aug+ kids in club. The Jan+ still get it in elite programs but it's not enough. That is the reason for the entire change: to make the strongest RAE with the oldest players (Jan+) in the int'l system so we can compete better vs all those Jan+ kids on all the other national teams.

          You are correct. The youngest in any age group always gets screwed - just the way RAE works. Since the rest of the world gives all the RAE to Jan+ players, Jurgen thinks we need to also. It's not personal and has nothing to do with "fairness". It's just that they don't want or need to worry about developing any fall bday players anymore. If you're already a total Messi and you happen to be born in the fall, they'll let you in elite programs but otherwise, get out of the way so they can concentrate on the oldest ones in the group.

          My kids are actually born early & summer so they're both helped by going birth year so I'm happy. Just reading the writing on the wall. I lived in England when they went birth year for the same reason. They even explained it that way. Don't worry though, the clubs will still want the fall players for $$$ so they can keep on living the club soccer dream.

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            I have a Fall birthday baby, but I know that she can still "hang" with the older kids. BUT....

            I still want to know what the plan is for the 2002 kids next year who won't be elligible to play HS soccer (because they will still be in 8th grade). I think the bigger clubs can still field teams for a Fall league, but will their be enough clubs who can do this? And if they can form teams, will they get a Fall league opportunity?

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I have a Fall birthday baby, but I know that she can still "hang" with the older kids. BUT....

              I still want to know what the plan is for the 2002 kids next year who won't be elligible to play HS soccer (because they will still be in 8th grade). I think the bigger clubs can still field teams for a Fall league, but will their be enough clubs who can do this? And if they can form teams, will they get a Fall league opportunity?
              The big 3 OPL clubs (Xfire, THUSC, FCP) won't have a problem fielding 2002 teams for fall so maybe they will just run their own OPL league next fall???

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I have a Fall birthday baby, but I know that she can still "hang" with the older kids. BUT....

                I still want to know what the plan is for the 2002 kids next year who won't be elligible to play HS soccer (because they will still be in 8th grade). I think the bigger clubs can still field teams for a Fall league, but will their be enough clubs who can do this? And if they can form teams, will they get a Fall league opportunity?
                Ask your DoC and have everyone on your team and in your club to email/ask your DoC. Leagues will be up to OYSA but I'm sure the clubs will have major influence. OYSA can even run a fall league for u15 so that all the club kids could play and the ones that do HS could do both if they want. Our DoC still hasn't even admitted we're going birth year so let us know if you get anywhere with your DoC, please.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Ask your DoC and have everyone on your team and in your club to email/ask your DoC. Leagues will be up to OYSA but I'm sure the clubs will have major influence. OYSA can even run a fall league for u15 so that all the club kids could play and the ones that do HS could do both if they want. Our DoC still hasn't even admitted we're going birth year so let us know if you get anywhere with your DoC, please.
                  Actually, Timbers run the leagues, not OYSA. Mass email the Timbers with your questions. I'm sure they'll get right back to you. Not.

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                    Fall league is over. About time the silent clubs announce something about birth year details.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Fall league is over. About time the silent clubs announce something about birth year details.
                      Still waiting on OYSA/Timbers to announce to the clubs what the plans are for 2016-17. We know the age groups are changing and 99% of the parents are aware of that, at least at our club. What we don't know is how the 8th grade U15's and the 12th grade U19's will be handled.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Still waiting on OYSA/Timbers to announce to the clubs what the plans are for 2016-17. We know the age groups are changing and 99% of the parents are aware of that, at least at our club. What we don't know is how the 8th grade U15's and the 12th grade U19's will be handled.
                        Our club members have been told nothing. 75% of parents have no idea. And the rest rely on rumors.

                        At least OYSA announced that 2006 birth year will be u11 next year and play 9v9, unlike originally announced. This moves kids up to 11v11 sooner in direct conflict with the mandate but it is what it is.

                        Please don't pretend that the TA club DoCs don't have any input with the Timbers/OYSA about how the league's are set up. The DoCs will want the $$ from the Aug/Sept-Dec born kids so I'm sure they'll figure something out. If they leave the fall kids out in the cold (and put HS soccer before club soccer) then at least all the fall kids will all know they aren't wanted in the soccer world.and can try to pursue other interests.

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                          Mums the word

                          No word from our club either. A few say we're keeping teams as is. More say all teams will be split by birth year at try outs.. No one has said anything about 8th/9th transition or no year for 19yr olds.

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                            Sent out today 11/17/15

                            Dear FC Portland Families,

                            US Soccer has recently announced a handful of initiatives that are required to be implemented by 2017. These initiatives include the shift from “school year” age brackets to “calendar year” age brackets.

                            Although we are accustomed to school-year registration, the calendar based age division will align US youth soccer with the standard around the world, and ultimately make the formation of Regional and National team rosters more continuous and simpler.

                            The timing of the age-group changes for FC Portland will follow the leagues which we participate in.
                            OYSA: Though no specifics of implementation and other ramifications have been given, OYSA has indicated their leagues will change to calendar based age divisions in the 2016-2017 season.
                            ECNL: There has not been any official word from ECNL at this time.

                            Change can always be a bit unnerving. The change to “calendar year” age brackets will mean that age groups and the players your son or daughter play with will change. We recognize that socially, it can cause anxiety. Our coaches are aware of the need to address that.

                            From a training standpoint, FCP’s pool system has helped prepare your son or daughter for this change. Although the players will be reorganized, our age groups will continue to train and compete within a pool of players. The competitive training system in which your son or daughter train will be very familiar to them.

                            Just like we do now, we will aim to create teams with each player’s best interest in mind while also considering what is best for each team. We want to place players in an environment where they are challenged, inspired, and enjoying the game. As a competitive club, we also aim to create the strongest possible teams in each age group. As such, every player needs to be ready to continue to compete for their positions on their teams, within their group.

                            As the age-groups are formed, our coaches will work together to communicate each player’s strengths, weaknesses, and backgrounds to the new coaches. Again, we feel that as a tight-knit club and coaching staff, our system and club is as prepared as possible to implement this change.

                            We fully understand that these changes will be difficult and that in some ways it will benefit some players more than others. Obviously, we would love to keep our teams as they are and continue to build the camaraderie between players and their families. However, these changes must be made eventually, so it is our job to do so in the best way possible. We ask that you do your best to accept these changes as they come and do your best to reduce the stress your players may be feeling.

                            Thank you for your time,
                            Rob Baarts (Boys DOC)
                            Mike dePinna (Girls DOC)

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Sent out today 11/17/15

                              Dear FC Portland Families,

                              US Soccer has recently announced a handful of initiatives that are required to be implemented by 2017. These initiatives include the shift from “school year” age brackets to “calendar year” age brackets.

                              Although we are accustomed to school-year registration, the calendar based age division will align US youth soccer with the standard around the world, and ultimately make the formation of Regional and National team rosters more continuous and simpler.

                              The timing of the age-group changes for FC Portland will follow the leagues which we participate in.
                              OYSA: Though no specifics of implementation and other ramifications have been given, OYSA has indicated their leagues will change to calendar based age divisions in the 2016-2017 season.
                              ECNL: There has not been any official word from ECNL at this time.

                              Change can always be a bit unnerving. The change to “calendar year” age brackets will mean that age groups and the players your son or daughter play with will change. We recognize that socially, it can cause anxiety. Our coaches are aware of the need to address that.

                              From a training standpoint, FCP’s pool system has helped prepare your son or daughter for this change. Although the players will be reorganized, our age groups will continue to train and compete within a pool of players. The competitive training system in which your son or daughter train will be very familiar to them.

                              Just like we do now, we will aim to create teams with each player’s best interest in mind while also considering what is best for each team. We want to place players in an environment where they are challenged, inspired, and enjoying the game. As a competitive club, we also aim to create the strongest possible teams in each age group. As such, every player needs to be ready to continue to compete for their positions on their teams, within their group.

                              As the age-groups are formed, our coaches will work together to communicate each player’s strengths, weaknesses, and backgrounds to the new coaches. Again, we feel that as a tight-knit club and coaching staff, our system and club is as prepared as possible to implement this change.

                              We fully understand that these changes will be difficult and that in some ways it will benefit some players more than others. Obviously, we would love to keep our teams as they are and continue to build the camaraderie between players and their families. However, these changes must be made eventually, so it is our job to do so in the best way possible. We ask that you do your best to accept these changes as they come and do your best to reduce the stress your players may be feeling.

                              Thank you for your time,
                              Rob Baarts (Boys DOC)
                              Mike dePinna (Girls DOC)
                              Well done FCP! So Neu, Bend & FCP are communicating. Anyone else like to step up? I think they are right that having used the pool system will make the switch easier for FCP.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Our club members have been told nothing. 75% of parents have no idea. And the rest rely on rumors.

                                At least OYSA announced that 2006 birth year will be u11 next year and play 9v9, unlike originally announced. This moves kids up to 11v11 sooner in direct conflict with the mandate but it is what it is.

                                Please don't pretend that the TA club DoCs don't have any input with the Timbers/OYSA about how the league's are set up. The DoCs will want the $$ from the Aug/Sept-Dec born kids so I'm sure they'll figure something out. If they leave the fall kids out in the cold (and put HS soccer before club soccer) then at least all the fall kids will all know they aren't wanted in the soccer world.and can try to pursue other interests.

                                Working on it.

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