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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    They won't be "crazy upset" if you tell them how it will be at tryouts. It's not hard to manage this transition if you have even a modest amount of intelligence.
    The 8th-9th transition has been solved. U14 will continue to be a fall & spring season for club soccer. Both the 8th & 9th graders will have a u14 club team all year. Simple. No one needs to worry about that. The senior year issue is solved by combining a two year age group so the fall bday kids will form teams with the best of the birth year below on the A teams. This will make it easier for recruiting as well.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      1. We know this change will reduce overall census numbers by estimated 10%. We have planned to raise fees to prevent any affect on cash flow.

      2. No, this change will not benefit girls and that's all right.

      3. Raising club fees can offset losses.

      4. The men's national team is at the top of the pyramid. Everyone should respect that and defer to them know that this change will help identify players for that pool.

      5. Everyone should stop the emails and online complaints. You are part of something bigger than yourself. Nobody likes a protester.

      6. Kids playing with school friends is irrelevant. Please stop with those complaints.

      7. Serious soccer players at U7, U8..etc, should be pleased to lose the distraction of playing with school friends.
      If the plan really is to increase fees then you should expect much more than a 10% decrease in numbers

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        If the plan really is to increase fees then you should expect much more than a 10% decrease in numbers
        Could be 10% the first year and 10% the second year. The gross reduction will probably be 19% (100% less 10% yr 1 and 90% less 10% yr 2) from today's baseline.

        Clubs that charge $1600 could simply raise fees to close to $2000 to compensate for the loss of revenue.

        It will all be all right. Player card revenue alone in the US for all cards is probably about $120 million. That leaves plenty to pay big salaries to the top officials at top of the pyramid. We need to play Jurgen Klinsman more than a paltry $3 million a year.

        I'm happy to pay the increased costs and realign teams across the board if it helps US soccer. They are way more important than any of us.

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          Desperate parents of Aug-Dec kids now are trying to battle to keep their child's advantage by trying to convince everyone they will be paying more fees. Their angst is now shifted to finance since they don't want to accept the real basis of their angst is that their kids have now conceded their advantage to another group. The evolution of the response to this announcement has been fascinating. First there was denial- All the teams will stay the same and just play in another age group. Then came the realization that the younger kids may not be willing to keep supporting their kids and they might actually want to play on age and get a chance to be the leaders. Then came the "what about the poor 8th graders and seniors left without teams" arguments. Now we have turned the decision into a belief that participation levels will drop. Uh maybe in the Aug- September birthdays, but ever think that some April-July kids have been dropping out because of their inability to compete with the older ages? Any loss in Aug-September will be made up in April-July. This drama will be a bump in the youth soccer landscape until the kids are playing in their new age groups next fall and that's it.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Could be 10% the first year and 10% the second year. The gross reduction will probably be 19% (100% less 10% yr 1 and 90% less 10% yr 2) from today's baseline.

            Clubs that charge $1600 could simply raise fees to close to $2000 to compensate for the loss of revenue.

            It will all be all right. Player card revenue alone in the US for all cards is probably about $120 million. That leaves plenty to pay big salaries to the top officials at top of the pyramid. We need to play Jurgen Klinsman more than a paltry $3 million a year.

            I'm happy to pay the increased costs and realign teams across the board if it helps US soccer. They are way more important than any of us.

            We are fine paying more as long as it will help to men's national team.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              1. We know this change will reduce overall census numbers by estimated 10%. We have planned to raise fees to prevent any affect on cash flow.

              2. No, this change will not benefit girls and that's all right.

              3. Raising club fees can offset losses.

              4. The men's national team is at the top of the pyramid. Everyone should respect that and defer to them know that this change will help identify players for that pool.

              5. Everyone should stop the emails and online complaints. You are part of something bigger than yourself. Nobody likes a protester.

              6. Kids playing with school friends is irrelevant. Please stop with those complaints.

              7. Serious soccer players at U7, U8..etc, should be pleased to lose the distraction of playing with school friends.
              This is a positive change. Get rid if the kids who are not as committed. That's a win. Anyone that wants to play with friends is not a valuable contributor.

              US Soccer is looking out for the important aspects of soccer in the US and we should be willing to do whatever they say.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                This is a stupid change to implement mid-stream considering their are no tangible benefits. Are we really doing this to only benefit top players? Why?

                Who is making these decisions? We should vote to fire them all.
                Your insubordination will reflect poorly on you and your kids.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Could be 10% the first year and 10% the second year. The gross reduction will probably be 19% (100% less 10% yr 1 and 90% less 10% yr 2) from today's baseline.

                  Clubs that charge $1600 could simply raise fees to close to $2000 to compensate for the loss of revenue.

                  It will all be all right. Player card revenue alone in the US for all cards is probably about $120 million. That leaves plenty to pay big salaries to the top officials at top of the pyramid. We need to play Jurgen Klinsman more than a paltry $3 million a year.

                  I'm happy to pay the increased costs and realign teams across the board if it helps US soccer. They are way more important than any of us.
                  unbelievable. why don't we pay the mens national team more?

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    unbelievable. why don't we pay the mens national team more?
                    True. Youth soccer should cost more so it can fund higher salaries to MLS & national team players. Then more top athletic boys would go for soccer careers. Also, only charge the girls (like ECNL) but not the boys (like DA) so more boys will play soccer. Actually, it would also be smart to pay the January born players the most, with a declining scale down to Dec. 31st born boys. That way JK could get even more Jan-April born boys to go into soccer since they are clearly the only players he is interested in.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      an example of this, our roster currently has 14 kids, we have 8 02's and 6 03's it's not just 1-2 kids who will need something it's a large group.
                      Have you ever considered the 01 teams having about 7- 02's and the 03 teams having 7-03's. Really people! This is called change. Your kids will survive. Change is good for kids, because the rest of their life is all about change.

                      Pros & Cons both ways. Now the Jan-Jul kids will be on top and have less of a challenge to practice against to make them better, but it will be easier to make the top teams. Now the Aug-Dec will have better challenge at their practices to make them better, but it will be harder to make the top team.

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                        U14 will be year round club for 2002's next year. Top clubs will not allow players to play HS as freshmen. Pretty simple. Make your choice up front - club or HS.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          U14 will be year round club for 2002's next year. Top clubs will not allow players to play HS as freshmen. Pretty simple. Make your choice up front - club or HS.
                          and push more kids out of soccer

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Have you ever considered the 01 teams having about 7- 02's and the 03 teams having 7-03's. Really people! This is called change. Your kids will survive. Change is good for kids, because the rest of their life is all about change.

                            Pros & Cons both ways. Now the Jan-Jul kids will be on top and have less of a challenge to practice against to make them better, but it will be easier to make the top teams. Now the Aug-Dec will have better challenge at their practices to make them better, but it will be harder to make the top team.
                            Those 7 02's on the 01 team are a grade ahead, and thus the issue, next fall those 7 are playing in high school and the younger 7 are now left with ????

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Those 7 02's on the 01 team are a grade ahead, and thus the issue, next fall those 7 are playing in high school and the younger 7 are now left with ????
                              The 7 2002 players who are freshman will also have club soccer in the fall. 2002 will be u14 for 2016-17 and will still be year round soccer. Some kids will do both, some will do just club and the few who were going to drop out of club anyway will play only freshman year in HS instead. Works out nicely all around.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                This is a positive change. Get rid if the kids who are not as committed. That's a win. Anyone that wants to play with friends is not a valuable contributor.

                                US Soccer is looking out for the important aspects of soccer in the US and we should be willing to do whatever they say.
                                Yes. Someone gets it.

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