New Discovery, Thorns not very good, but it's cheaper then ECNL!

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All this bickering doesn't change the fact that the Thorns academy is still horrendous.

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All this bickering doesn't change the fact that the Thorns academy is still horrendous.

THUSC troll. Take your tired act somewhere else.

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All this bickering doesn't change the fact that the Thorns academy is still horrendous.

Maybe not horrendous. But certainly not elite (even though their website says they are)

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Maybe not horrendous. But certainly not elite (even though their website says they are)

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How is that trolling. Timbers clearly state on their website that the Thorns Academy is "for the elite female players with year-round training for the top players, showcase opportunities and elite competition." That's two "elites" in one sentence. The latter is very clearly untrue while the former is almost completely untrue.

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How is that trolling. Timbers clearly state on their website that the Thorns Academy is "for the elite female players with year-round training for the top players, showcase opportunities and elite competition." That's two "elites" in one sentence. The latter is very clearly untrue while the former is almost completely untrue.

Exactly. They didn't deliver anything they promised and it was anything but 'Elite'.

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How is that trolling. Timbers clearly state on their website that the Thorns Academy is "for the elite female players with year-round training for the top players, showcase opportunities and elite competition." That's two "elites" in one sentence. The latter is very clearly untrue while the former is almost completely untrue.

While that may be true, the statement itself lends no value whatsoever. It is simply inflammatory and a waste. The same as the statements made about ECNL by you or others along the same line.
The whole trolling and playing both sides on this board has gotten way out of hand and in no way leads to a meaningful dialogue on the current activities and/or discussion of matters relating to youth soccer in Oregon.

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While that may be true, the statement itself lends no value whatsoever. It is simply inflammatory and a waste. The same as the statements made about ECNL by you or others along the same line.
The whole trolling and playing both sides on this board has gotten way out of hand and in no way leads to a meaningful dialogue on the current activities and/or discussion of matters relating to youth soccer in Oregon.

You should post this on the other threads.

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Exactly. They didn't deliver anything they promised and it was anything but 'Elite'.

Funny, your wife was saying the same thing about you the other day.

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The ECNL teams are not 'elite' but did manage decent records "League records of 24-30-11 (FC) and 18-33-14 (CU) in their first year in the top league in the country (whole country - not just OYSA Thorns Academy rec league)" The Thorns academy on the other hand, came in 4th in their flight in FWRL, 2nd in OYSA and played in Vegas in the silver division. Comparing the two is like comparing day and night.

The point being, neither can call themselves 'elite' but the ECNL clubs appear to at least be delivering what they promised.

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The ECNL teams are not 'elite' but did manage decent records "League records of 24-30-11 (FC) and 18-33-14 (CU) in their first year in the top league in the country (whole country - not just OYSA Thorns Academy rec league)" The Thorns academy on the other hand, came in 4th in their flight in FWRL, 2nd in OYSA and played in Vegas in the silver division. Comparing the two is like comparing day and night.

The point being, neither can call themselves 'elite' but the ECNL clubs appear to at least be delivering what they promised.

A league that will accepted clubs regardless of ability to compete.

As long as they are willing to pay for air travel, hotel & cover the cost of referees.

The league held up that bargain.

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The ECNL teams are not 'elite' but did manage decent records "League records of 24-30-11 (FC) and 18-33-14 (CU) in their first year in the top league in the country (whole country - not just OYSA Thorns Academy rec league)" The Thorns academy on the other hand, came in 4th in their flight in FWRL, 2nd in OYSA and played in Vegas in the silver division. Comparing the two is like comparing day and night.

The point being, neither can call themselves 'elite' but the ECNL clubs appear to at least be delivering what they promised.

That is actually pretty cool. Thank you for gathering and sharing this information.
I'm glad to see the Oregon ECNL teams were able to get started and have some good results (along with some bad results) in their first year. I am not surprised there were several losses, since the Oregon teams are just coming from league play into the bigger arena.
There definitely is some good talent across the country in girls soccer and it has to be exciting for the competitive girls in ECNL to be able to go out and compete with them. I know when I was a kid I would have wanted to see how I could do against kids my age in other parts of the nation and do what I could to be as good as or better than them.
As for the Thorns... right now they seem to be trying to swim upstream. I think they're late to the game and would best serve themselves and the players by trying to partner with one of the ECNL teams in a meaningful way. Like I said, they're late to the game and I don't know that FCP or CU are in a position to be able to work with the Thorns. More likely CU would be able to make something work.

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A league that will accepted clubs regardless of ability to compete.

As long as they are willing to pay for air travel, hotel & cover the cost of referees.

The league held up that bargain.

They didn't accept your club so what you are saying isn't true. ECNL invites only the very best clubs across the country. OYSA Rec wouldn't invite your club.

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That is actually pretty cool. Thank you for gathering and sharing this information.
I'm glad to see the Oregon ECNL teams were able to get started and have some good results (along with some bad results) in their first year. I am not surprised there were several losses, since the Oregon teams are just coming from league play into the bigger arena.
There definitely is some good talent across the country in girls soccer and it has to be exciting for the competitive girls in ECNL to be able to go out and compete with them. I know when I was a kid I would have wanted to see how I could do against kids my age in other parts of the nation and do what I could to be as good as or better than them.
As for the Thorns... right now they seem to be trying to swim upstream. I think they're late to the game and would best serve themselves and the players by trying to partner with one of the ECNL teams in a meaningful way. Like I said, they're late to the game and I don't know that FCP or CU are in a position to be able to work with the Thorns. More likely CU would be able to make something work.

Timbers and GW actively tried to keep FCP and CU from getting into the ECNL so it's pretty unlikely that there is enough trust there to have any kind of meaningful relationship. Timbers made their bed, now they have to lie in it.

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That is actually pretty cool. Thank you for gathering and sharing this information.
I'm glad to see the Oregon ECNL teams were able to get started and have some good results (along with some bad results) in their first year. I am not surprised there were several losses, since the Oregon teams are just coming from league play into the bigger arena.
There definitely is some good talent across the country in girls soccer and it has to be exciting for the competitive girls in ECNL to be able to go out and compete with them. I know when I was a kid I would have wanted to see how I could do against kids my age in other parts of the nation and do what I could to be as good as or better than them.
As for the Thorns... right now they seem to be trying to swim upstream. I think they're late to the game and would best serve themselves and the players by trying to partner with one of the ECNL teams in a meaningful way. Like I said, they're late to the game and I don't know that FCP or CU are in a position to be able to work with the Thorns. More likely CU would be able to make something work.

You should talk to some parents. By and large, FCP parents are pretty happy with the results and have had a good experience. I've spoken with a number of CU parents and the experience has not been the same. The 18s were a disaster. The 17s have not had a good year at all. The 16s, while winning a number of games, are not having the year they wanted with them actually going backwards in terms of competitiveness. The 15s and 14s are just not very good, but have some hope with coaching changes. Take away U16 results from CU, and the record is terrible. And the grumblings and infighting is not good either.