Only thoughtful responses please. Really trying to move in the right direction. Thank you.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOnly thoughtful responses please. Really trying to move in the right direction. Thank you.
I don't think there is a right or a wrong choice, just what is a good fit for the athlete and her family.
Everyone in this forum wants there to be one answer, I think there are many options for girls who play soccer and that is a really good thing.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOnly thoughtful responses please. Really trying to move in the right direction. Thank you.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI could pay for college with that kind of money. Or at least 1/2.
As a parent of an Onyx player, we were already paying close to what we are paying now. U16 and U17 are the most expensive years due to more travel. We will end up at about $7,400 this year (U16), all tickets are paid and travel costs already estimated. We ended up paying about $6,000, maybe $6,500 last year. that was with no ECNL.
U14, U15 and U18 should be less as they go to less showcases.
My point is, if you are on a team that travels anyway, the costs are going to be there. If you just stay local, with maybe one showcase, then it is going to be closer to what the Thorns is costing. It is really up to the family. Soccer isn't free, it is just a matter of deciding what value you are getting for what you are paying.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostECNL is great if your daughter is a top tier or even the middle of the pack. If your daughter is a reserve coming off the bench infrequently then it is tough to swallow. ECNL is expensive because of the travel. The competition you play is certainly far greater than what you would face in OR or FWRL. The college exposure is certainly significantly greater in ECNL than any other option.
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I have some familiarity with both ECNL and the Thorns and can say both have had their hiccups this year. But note, it is the first year for both, so that can be expected, at least locally. I expect many changes for both next year and that those changes will be for the better. I do expect the girls in Oregon to benefit from both of these programs, as will the parents. I do recommend that the parents ask lots of questions of coaches as to their view of their daughter. It's important that players and parents have a realistic view of the capabilities of their dd. We look through rose colored glasses which are not always accurate.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostActually the competition is pretty awful this year. Just check. Playing rcl in Washington is better competition than flying to Utah to play a team that can't score any goals. Or worse flying to play a team from Portland that isn't even the best in oregon.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYeah, those OYSA rec+ teams are extremely tough. Even better than the Thorns Academy, which we all know is the pinnacle of girls youth soccer nationwide.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThanks for bringing in your rancor to this thread Angry ECNL Poster. It's great that you have to take pot shots without looking accurately at your own program. You can't say that ECNL competition has been completely great, in fact more of it has been putrid (and I've spoken with ECNL parents who are pretty disappointed in it). But recall ECNL promoted itself as having this great competition. That was one of the "draws" given the cost. Fly to Orlando or Phoenix and play top teams, and I won't even mention Dallas where you got to meet and greet other teams. Those top teams were there, but playing other top teams. The Thorns didn't advertise that they would be out playing these great teams from across the country as a draw. In fact, they were pretty upfront about plaing FWRL and OYSA and let parents decide. ECNL is the group that false advertised. Bait an switch. So many ECNL parents get that. Too bad you don't.
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