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    #76
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Over 200 D1 coaches... U-15s heavily scouted. Most schools double dipped to watch the u16 vs. U17 YNT scrimmage on Thursday.

    You name the d1 school they have someone there right now.

    If you don't get that ECNL quadruples the exposure you get, I can't help you.

    Go on the socalsoccer.com website ECNL boards for the real scoop. Don't listen to the haters or the uninformed.
    But it doesn't help much if your dd isn't D1 material, which a number of the Portland ECNL girls aren't. Just like I'm sure Ron Tonkin will let you walk the floor of their Ferrari dealership, but what does it do for you? If you can't afford one, then it is pretty much akin to pizzing into the wind. Once again, the 15% who are ECNL worthy player really appreciate the other 85% making it affordable for them.

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      #77
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      My daughter is on this list...

      https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/sear...ea=commitments

      So I'm blessed and I'm done. She was seen at Surf Cup. ECNL got her more than half of the way there. I'd tell you more but there's way too many trolls on this site to give out personal info.

      So yeah, I could have paid triple whatever I paid for ECNL and I'd still be in the black. Maybe talk to people who have actually had their kids recruited by d1 schools or talk to the top 50 d1 coaches and ask them how ECNL fits in their recruiting plans?

      Do you enjoy being jealous and misinformed? I'm kind of done with you. Trying to help people but on this thread it may be a lost cause. Go back to hating and enjoy the obscurity and 200 dollar scholarship in d3.
      I'm not the person you are responding to, but my dd too is on the list and she never did ECNL. And she got offers over ECNL players. Perhaps one should look closer at the player than the league.

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        #78
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        My daughter is on this list...

        https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/sear...ea=commitments

        So I'm blessed and I'm done. She was seen at Surf Cup. ECNL got her more than half of the way there. I'd tell you more but there's way too many trolls on this site to give out personal info.

        So yeah, I could have paid triple whatever I paid for ECNL and I'd still be in the black. Maybe talk to people who have actually had their kids recruited by d1 schools or talk to the top 50 d1 coaches and ask them how ECNL fits in their recruiting plans?

        Do you enjoy being jealous and misinformed? I'm kind of done with you. Trying to help people but on this thread it may be a lost cause. Go back to hating and enjoy the obscurity and 200 dollar scholarship in d3.
        Wait. Wut? There are no oregon clubs on that list. Why are you posting here at all? I'm kind of done with you.

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          #79
          Day 2. A couple of wins and a lot of losses. Looks like CU 16 isn't the great team their parents make them out to be.

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            #80
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Day 2. A couple of wins and a lot of losses. Looks like CU 16 isn't the great team their parents make them out to be.
            They are the team we thought they were, games are much tougher when you leave OR and you aren't playing the Westside Timbers anymore

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              #81
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              They are the team we thought they were, games are much tougher when you leave OR and you aren't playing the Westside Timbers anymore
              Westside, heck a number of OYSA teams, would have done just as well.

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                #82
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Westside, heck a number of OYSA teams, would have done just as well.
                If you want to play ECNL competition then apply to Surf instead of posting what ifs

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  If you want to play ECNL competition then apply to Surf instead of posting what ifs
                  No what ifs.

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                    #84
                    Did Stealth win today ?

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                      #85
                      My perspective on the ECNL event.

                      Very well organized, all of our games started on time and I thought the officials were very experienced. There seemed to be a very positive vibe at the event and I saw coaches from all over the country. As my dd's team is in last place in our conference I was a little puzzled that we had to play the 2nd, 3rd and 4th place team in the SW conference. Those teams have a goal differential of +30, +26 and +6. The speed of play was just something I have never seen playing in Oregon. These teams had incredible athletes. We were proud of our dd and team this weekend. They stuck with the 2nd place team the whole game for a 1-0 loss and almost had the equalizer in the last 15 minutes. Other two games they got smoked. These girls stayed composed the whole weekend and overall I thought it was a positive experience for them.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        My perspective on the ECNL event.

                        Very well organized, all of our games started on time and I thought the officials were very experienced. There seemed to be a very positive vibe at the event and I saw coaches from all over the country. As my dd's team is in last place in our conference I was a little puzzled that we had to play the 2nd, 3rd and 4th place team in the SW conference. Those teams have a goal differential of +30, +26 and +6. The speed of play was just something I have never seen playing in Oregon. These teams had incredible athletes. We were proud of our dd and team this weekend. They stuck with the 2nd place team the whole game for a 1-0 loss and almost had the equalizer in the last 15 minutes. Other two games they got smoked. These girls stayed composed the whole weekend and overall I thought it was a positive experience for them.
                        Thanks for the good synopsis.
                        Speed of play is something that I've often see be the differentiation between teams in Oregon and elsewhere. I think it comes with the higher levels of competition teaching kids to make quicker decisions and execute better.
                        Even between 1st and 2nd division teams in Oregon there's a big difference and speed of play a key to good results.

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Thanks for the good synopsis.
                          Speed of play is something that I've often see be the differentiation between teams in Oregon and elsewhere. I think it comes with the higher levels of competition teaching kids to make quicker decisions and execute better.
                          Even between 1st and 2nd division teams in Oregon there's a big difference and speed of play a key to good results.
                          I recall a discussion about the speed of play last year when discussing the ECNL teams. In fact, I posted it because I knew it would be an eye opener for the Oregon teams. It's easy to play when the defense gives you time to receive the ball, look up, take a touch and decide what to do. It's quite a bit more difficult when the moment you receive the ball a defender is on top of you and every miss touch ends up in a turnover or a 50/50 ball that has you fighting like crazy to win. When playing the top ECNL teams, that is what you get. When playing teams in fifth, sixth, or lower place, you don't get that.

                          That's why coaches need to pick up their game and get players to practice at a much higher level. You can't practice at a slow speed and then go and play teams that play fast. Playing hard defense where you are constantly on top of players is tiring, that's why so few players like to do it unless they are forced to.

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            My perspective on the ECNL event.

                            Very well organized, all of our games started on time and I thought the officials were very experienced. There seemed to be a very positive vibe at the event and I saw coaches from all over the country. As my dd's team is in last place in our conference I was a little puzzled that we had to play the 2nd, 3rd and 4th place team in the SW conference. Those teams have a goal differential of +30, +26 and +6. The speed of play was just something I have never seen playing in Oregon. These teams had incredible athletes. We were proud of our dd and team this weekend. They stuck with the 2nd place team the whole game for a 1-0 loss and almost had the equalizer in the last 15 minutes. Other two games they got smoked. These girls stayed composed the whole weekend and overall I thought it was a positive experience for them.
                            I know which team your dd is on. I think that many girls on that team are going to play in college so this should serve as a real eye opener for them. I'm surprised that they were so overwhelmed by speed of play given that a number of them are going to college. However, they should now know what to expect in a few months and probably should use the remaining time to prepare. I know your team has a handful of players going D1 and I think they might be a bit concerned after this weekend.

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              My perspective on the ECNL event.

                              Very well organized, all of our games started on time and I thought the officials were very experienced. There seemed to be a very positive vibe at the event and I saw coaches from all over the country. As my dd's team is in last place in our conference I was a little puzzled that we had to play the 2nd, 3rd and 4th place team in the SW conference. Those teams have a goal differential of +30, +26 and +6. The speed of play was just something I have never seen playing in Oregon. These teams had incredible athletes. We were proud of our dd and team this weekend. They stuck with the 2nd place team the whole game for a 1-0 loss and almost had the equalizer in the last 15 minutes. Other two games they got smoked. These girls stayed composed the whole weekend and overall I thought it was a positive experience for them.
                              I completely agree about the event, well organized. We were not like you, most of the teams we played had goal differentials close to zero and were middle to bottom of the pack for their own divisions (whatever that means since I could not comment on soccer anywhere else). The games were fast, faster than we have seen so far with the exception of Crossfire Premier. I do not mean a girl or two, but the speed of the games were incredible. My dd has already talked to a coach since she has gotten hope (top 50 D1 program) he doesn't have the same negative feelings about our ECNL teams as posters on the board. First year, there will be adjustments and players will come and go, but if the teams can continue to be challenged and pushed like they were this weekend, then they will get a lot of positive things out of their experience. Playing at this speed of play helps the girls come home and realize what they need to put into their game.

                              And to speak to "low ranked teams" there were dozens of coaches at all three games, about 50% top tier programs, and 50% lower DI and other divisions. And there were 20 plus that were at two or more games. I have never seen anything like it.

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I recall a discussion about the speed of play last year when discussing the ECNL teams. In fact, I posted it because I knew it would be an eye opener for the Oregon teams. It's easy to play when the defense gives you time to receive the ball, look up, take a touch and decide what to do. It's quite a bit more difficult when the moment you receive the ball a defender is on top of you and every miss touch ends up in a turnover or a 50/50 ball that has you fighting like crazy to win. When playing the top ECNL teams, that is what you get. When playing teams in fifth, sixth, or lower place, you don't get that.

                                That's why coaches need to pick up their game and get players to practice at a much higher level. You can't practice at a slow speed and then go and play teams that play fast. Playing hard defense where you are constantly on top of players is tiring, that's why so few players like to do it unless they are forced to.
                                I know I will be called a liar, but we played those 4th, 5th, 6th place ECNL teams. Some divisions are deeper than ours because the games were what you described. Fast speed of play, and a real challenge. There are parts of the country where even the lower teams are good, they get to show their stuff a little more at these showcases since their divisions are so tight. When you have a division where 4 or 5 teams make a guaranteed bid into the championship league playoffs, then you know that it is a very tough line of for those teams every weekend.

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