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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    You mean "doesn't" mean full ride.
    No. My sentence was confusing. There are a couple of sports where being "on scholarship" means full ride and the scholarship cannot be split. Soccer isn't one of those sports. Those scholarships can be partial. Football scholarships cannot be. In football the player is either on scholarship or he's not.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Although it's nice that some people are posting Letters of Intent, keep in mind that this only means a commitment to attend a school, and NOT that much money is being given to the kid.

      I'm NOT trying to take away anything from the kids who are able to play on these teams--it is nice that they are good enough to make those teams--but be careful to think they are getting a full ride.
      Thanks for letting us know this! What would we do without the negativity? Your not trying to take anything away from the kids but you are doing a great job of it.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        No. My sentence was confusing. There are a couple of sports where being "on scholarship" means full ride and the scholarship cannot be split. Soccer isn't one of those sports. Those scholarships can be partial. Football scholarships cannot be. In football the player is either on scholarship or he's not.
        Thanks!

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Thanks!
          Actually Football Scholarships are more complicated than that

          NCAA D1 FBS 85 full scholarships anything below that level can split the scholarships up.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Thanks for letting us know this! What would we do without the negativity? Your not trying to take anything away from the kids but you are doing a great job of it.
            Right? What the heck is wrong with Oregon youth soccer parents. It is funny because you know we must know some of these people and yet who acts like that in person?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Although it's nice that some people are posting Letters of Intent, keep in mind that this only means a commitment to attend a school, and NOT that much money is being given to the kid.

              I'm NOT trying to take away anything from the kids who are able to play on these teams--it is nice that they are good enough to make those teams--but be careful to think they are getting a full ride.
              You just want to make sure everyone knows right? Like a public service announcement.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Although it's nice that some people are posting Letters of Intent, keep in mind that this only means a commitment to attend a school, and NOT that much money is being given to the kid.

                I'm NOT trying to take away anything from the kids who are able to play on these teams--it is nice that they are good enough to make those teams--but be careful to think they are getting a full ride.
                Thanks captain obvious! So glad you cleared that up.

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                  #23
                  Congratulations to all these players!

                  The kids are all fine. It's the parents that ruin it. At U11 I was told not to switch clubs because out current club had a high college placement rate. We would miss out if we left. A few years later chatting with a parent whose dàughter was playing D1 in the PAC 12. Her "scholarship" was $500 per term. Kids havung a good time. Good for her. But to imply that we need to consider scholarships at the younger ages is just crazy. Can't we just be honest?

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Congratulations to all these players!

                    The kids are all fine. It's the parents that ruin it. At U11 I was told not to switch clubs because out current club had a high college placement rate. We would miss out if we left. A few years later chatting with a parent whose dàughter was playing D1 in the PAC 12. Her "scholarship" was $500 per term. Kids havung a good time. Good for her. But to imply that we need to consider scholarships at the younger ages is just crazy. Can't we just be honest?
                    Bingo.

                    It's great that these kids are getting some money for school but keep it in perspective. The scholarship money these kids get is often very little and dont forget that they have to work at keeping the scholarship year after year.

                    If it makes you happy to throw rocks at the person bursting your parental fantasies, keep at it. This forum is perfect for that.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Bingo.

                      It's great that these kids are getting some money for school but keep it in perspective. The scholarship money these kids get is often very little and dont forget that they have to work at keeping the scholarship year after year.

                      If it makes you happy to throw rocks at the person bursting your parental fantasies, keep at it. This forum is perfect for that.
                      You can extrapolate that forward to the H.S. ages. So at best, 1/2 a roster at the top / premier level may get a scholarship looking at the numbers per club (using the CU / FCP numbers posted on here, the westside, eastside numbers were about 4 girls per team) and these girls are getting maybe a few thousand bucks a year (over estimation) to play.
                      For the most part, the 'good' schools are our local PAC-12 schools, there was one going to Cornell and a slew going to places like Idaho and Portland State. It seems like a lot of work, for what basically is the financial equivalent of a pell grant to go to (putting it politely), a rather mundane school academically.

                      Now granted, one girl was going to Cornell, but then the costs are magnified going to a school like that and I would have to assume she was also pretty gifted scholastically to get into Cornell.

                      What I'm getting at is that if one figures just how many local kids/girls (I have a dd) play competitive soccer in Oregon and maybe 30 play at the next level for a few hundred bucks cut in tuition at mediocre schools.

                      Then there's the next Alex Morgan going to play on the USWNT. There is what, maybe one or two girls a year that are close to that national team pool level here in Oregon? I saw that a woman made the pool recently for U20 (FCP) and someone posted about 2 U14's made the regional ODP 'all star team' (also both FCP) I know there are a few U16/17's from THUSC or some other misc. club(s). But that's it. Hell, drop the quality down to High school level. There are what, four divisions of H.S. soccer, figure 18 girls per roster so only about 72 girls will be state champions in any given year. With how many hundreds, no thousands of girls playing soccer?

                      Maybe we should all keep a little perspective. There's your reality check.

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                        #26
                        Nli

                        You can sign an NLI if it contains as little as 1 cent towards your books up to a full ride.

                        Unless you share the terms of your agreement it could cost you more in postage to return it than the help your getting.

                        Best to disclose.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You can extrapolate that forward to the H.S. ages. So at best, 1/2 a roster at the top / premier level may get a scholarship looking at the numbers per club (using the CU / FCP numbers posted on here, the westside, eastside numbers were about 4 girls per team) and these girls are getting maybe a few thousand bucks a year (over estimation) to play.
                          For the most part, the 'good' schools are our local PAC-12 schools, there was one going to Cornell and a slew going to places like Idaho and Portland State. It seems like a lot of work, for what basically is the financial equivalent of a pell grant to go to (putting it politely), a rather mundane school academically.

                          Now granted, one girl was going to Cornell, but then the costs are magnified going to a school like that and I would have to assume she was also pretty gifted scholastically to get into Cornell.

                          What I'm getting at is that if one figures just how many local kids/girls (I have a dd) play competitive soccer in Oregon and maybe 30 play at the next level for a few hundred bucks cut in tuition at mediocre schools.

                          Then there's the next Alex Morgan going to play on the USWNT. There is what, maybe one or two girls a year that are close to that national team pool level here in Oregon? I saw that a woman made the pool recently for U20 (FCP) and someone posted about 2 U14's made the regional ODP 'all star team' (also both FCP) I know there are a few U16/17's from THUSC or some other misc. club(s). But that's it. Hell, drop the quality down to High school level. There are what, four divisions of H.S. soccer, figure 18 girls per roster so only about 72 girls will be state champions in any given year. With how many hundreds, no thousands of girls playing soccer?

                          Maybe we should all keep a little perspective. There's your reality check.
                          Wait?! What?!!! My dd is not going to be the next Mia Hamm, get a full ride to Harvard or win the world cup? What am I going to do with all my time ?

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                            #28
                            Sorry no athletic aid at Cornell

                            http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/information/psa/index

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                              #29
                              What a fool you are! I can assure that a school is giving more assistance to any of the girls who are signing and I say that without any malice towards any of the girls.

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                                #30
                                need based

                                It's based on financial need. Nothing else.

                                So if the girl heading to Cornell has tremendous financial need then she will get assistance.

                                Her FAFSA will indicate her award. Not her soccer ability or academic ability.

                                This is the code of the IVY LEAGUE.

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