U15B WT-FC, A new powerhouse?

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;1373445]Very well written.

Good luck with that. Even if a parent does it is irrelevant. VG hasn't ever and it isn't likely because he is so awesome.

And we have another classic story how parents ruin club sports. Take heed TS gurus.

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Very well written.

I hope one of the parents who brought Victor on will have the courage to step up and address these points calmly and civilly.

Parents have responded, a couple of times. It is a long year of soccer. League is a time to develop, take some lumps, and improve. These boys want to win every time out, but the Wa teams are very strong. The focus is getting stronger through training, then show well at showcases, and make a run at state cup. Let these young men work hard and hold your assessment until after a larger body of work. Now that I've responded, maybe you can tell us why you care so much about this team?

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Parents have responded, a couple of times. It is a long year of soccer. League is a time to develop, take some lumps, and improve. These boys want to win every time out, but the Wa teams are very strong. The focus is getting stronger through training, then show well at showcases, and make a run at state cup. Let these young men work hard and hold your assessment until after a larger body of work. Now that I've responded, maybe you can tell us why you care so much about this team?

Same old non responses about its a long year and wait till later. How about you try to address the points raised or are you all afraid to talk about your coach and team? Sunny made a mistake and if you are part of this club you should care. If you are not part of this club you should know about what happens there.

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Same old non responses about its a long year and wait till later. How about you try to address the points raised or are you all afraid to talk about your coach and team? Sunny made a mistake and if you are part of this club you should care. If you are not part of this club you should know about what happens there.

I for one am not nearly as concerned with wins and losses as I am with player development. You, my sad little friend, are what is wrong with youth soccer. I would rather my kid be coached by a great trainer than a poor trainer, and great game tactician. Been there, done that. Left my DD at least a year behind in her skill set. Vancouver Timbers are notorious for being the worst club for player development. Good athletes, that win early, but no technical training at practices over a few years leads to underdeveloped athletes who either quite or move across the river for development. VG should run weekly skill/technical trainings for every age group across the board for the Timbers. Then maybe the club would be able to keep teams together at older ages.

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Parents have responded, a couple of times. It is a long year of soccer. League is a time to develop, take some lumps, and improve. These boys want to win every time out, but the Wa teams are very strong. The focus is getting stronger through training, then show well at showcases, and make a run at state cup. Let these young men work hard and hold your assessment until after a larger body of work. Now that I've responded, maybe you can tell us why you care so much about this team?

I would care, because I have seen and heard enough of Victor through the years, that he should not be involved in youth sports whatsoever, and crazy ass parents and WT allowed him to come back. I wish Victor the worst of luck and hope he fails in everything he does, so maybe finally, he will be booted out for good.

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I for one am not nearly as concerned with wins and losses as I am with player development. You, my sad little friend, are what is wrong with youth soccer. I would rather my kid be coached by a great trainer than a poor trainer, and great game tactician. Been there, done that. Left my DD at least a year behind in her skill set. Vancouver Timbers are notorious for being the worst club for player development. Good athletes, that win early, but no technical training at practices over a few years leads to underdeveloped athletes who either quite or move across the river for development. VG should run weekly skill/technical trainings for every age group across the board for the Timbers. Then maybe the club would be able to keep teams together at older ages.

By a great trainer but not a great person!! I do agree with the assessment on the Timbers. Very little to no skill training.

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I for one am not nearly as concerned with wins and losses as I am with player development. You, my sad little friend, are what is wrong with youth soccer. I would rather my kid be coached by a great trainer than a poor trainer, and great game tactician. Been there, done that. Left my DD at least a year behind in her skill set. Vancouver Timbers are notorious for being the worst club for player development. Good athletes, that win early, but no technical training at practices over a few years leads to underdeveloped athletes who either quite or move across the river for development. VG should run weekly skill/technical trainings for every age group across the board for the Timbers. Then maybe the club would be able to keep teams together at older ages.

Speak for your own DD......we constantly want vantucky players over here.
There is a reason why vantucky players move to PDX....they are better developed than others....that is why we want them all of the time.

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I for one am not nearly as concerned with wins and losses as I am with player development. You, my sad little friend, are what is wrong with youth soccer. I would rather my kid be coached by a great trainer than a poor trainer, and great game tactician. Been there, done that. Left my DD at least a year behind in her skill set. Vancouver Timbers are notorious for being the worst club for player development. Good athletes, that win early, but no technical training at practices over a few years leads to underdeveloped athletes who either quite or move across the river for development. VG should run weekly skill/technical trainings for every age group across the board for the Timbers. Then maybe the club would be able to keep teams together at older ages.

You are confusing training with coaching.

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I would care, because I have seen and heard enough of Victor through the years, that he should not be involved in youth sports whatsoever, and crazy ass parents and WT allowed him to come back. I wish Victor the worst of luck and hope he fails in everything he does, so maybe finally, he will be booted out for good.

How many more times can he be booted out of something? As long as there are rich and stupid parents around, Victor will be around.

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How many more times can he be booted out of something? As long as there are rich and stupid parents around, Victor will be around.

Agreed, but I can still root against him.

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You are confusing training with coaching.

I'm not confusing the two. I am stating I would favor a strong trainer over a strong coach. You obviously would favor wins and losses of player development.

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I'm not confusing the two. I am stating I would favor a strong trainer over a strong coach. You obviously would favor wins and losses of player development.

At WT_FC, take your wins when you can get them. There is no player development going on at that club...

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At WT_FC, take your wins when you can get them. There is no player development going on at that club...

Agree 100%. That is why we ,and all the other parents we have talked to over the past year, left WT. None of wanted to have to take our kids across the river, but they were not being developed technically. It's sad really. I just hope they can get the program unning better, with a focus on technical development rather than tactical development at U10 and U11.

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I'm not confusing the two. I am stating I would favor a strong trainer over a strong coach. You obviously would favor wins and losses of player development.

First, how do you OBJECTIVELY measure player development? You can argue your player is "one year behind" while others are "two years behind" or that your player is "so much better now with Victor" but that's just your opinion. It is more or less worthless because you have no frame of reference and no way to measure.

It's easy to measure coaching, if you use a W-L-D metric. Crude, but effective, and it's what every professional team in the world uses.

Second, why do you need your trainer to also be your coach? Don't you think its smarter to have two people who are good in what they do rather than settle for bad coaching?

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First, how do you OBJECTIVELY measure player development? You can argue your player is "one year behind" while others are "two years behind" or that your player is "so much better now with Victor" but that's just your opinion. It is more or less worthless because you have no frame of reference and no way to measure.

It's easy to measure coaching, if you use a W-L-D metric. Crude, but effective, and it's what every professional team in the world uses.

Second, why do you need your trainer to also be your coach? Don't you think its smarter to have two people who are good in what they do rather than settle for bad coaching?

I would love having both technical training and tactical coaching. I would prefer 2 days a week technical training and 1 tactical coaching session a week. I think this would be most appropriate up to say U15, at which time, if the technical training has been good, it should be almost all tactical trainings.

Just my opinion, I'm obviously no expert.