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    #46
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    While this may be the case at many schools it is not the case in every 6A school where many of the club coaches prowl the sidelines and 6+ club players form the core of many many many teams.

    You will see possession soccer played at a number of schools and until the "Split" is healed you will not see a club system capable of replacing the school season because the social aspect is too important to 99% of our players!
    Yes that is mostly what we have experienced. The high school spirit and support is so much better than club. How many go watch club games? So much more support at high school. To those that complain about their high school, why not work with your school to improve the soccer if you are not happy? Maybe if you had started in your community and worked with your neighbors, you would see the bigger picture.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Yes that is mostly what we have experienced. The high school spirit and support is so much better than club. How many go watch club games? So much more support at high school. To those that complain about their high school, why not work with your school to improve the soccer if you are not happy? Maybe if you had started in your community and worked with your neighbors, you would see the bigger picture.
      Oh my! We can't even get classroom sizes under control much less get a decent coaching program in place for soccer. Free market generally provides a much better product (not always, but usually), school spirit aside. But if your talking school spirit, sure, it's better if that's your main objective. Ra Ra Sis Boom Ba!

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        #48
        Get involved!

        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Oh my! We can't even get classroom sizes under control much less get a decent coaching program in place for soccer. Free market generally provides a much better product (not always, but usually), school spirit aside. But if your talking school spirit, sure, it's better if that's your main objective. Ra Ra Sis Boom Ba!
        There is no excuse for a 6A school in the major metro area's to have an unqualified Varsity coach for either sex.

        The money is great for a 3 1/2 month season so there are no excuses other than the lack of involvement from the parents!

        Nearly every Metro League and Three Rivers League team is already coached by a club coach and the quality of soccer is reflective of that club.

        If your school does not have a club coach then RECRUIT ONE! I can guarantee you that nearly every HS age club coach would jump at the chance to collect the extra money, coach some of their players and recruit new players to the club.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          There is no excuse for a 6A school in the major metro area's to have an unqualified Varsity coach for either sex.

          The money is great for a 3 1/2 month season so there are no excuses other than the lack of involvement from the parents!

          Nearly every Metro League and Three Rivers League team is already coached by a club coach and the quality of soccer is reflective of that club.

          If your school does not have a club coach then RECRUIT ONE! I can guarantee you that nearly every HS age club coach would jump at the chance to collect the extra money, coach some of their players and recruit new players to the club.
          Except there are OSAA rules against recruiting and coaching players off season. Rule of 2, most coaches follow this by coaching the opposite gender.

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            #50
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            There is no excuse for a 6A school in the major metro area's to have an unqualified Varsity coach for either sex.

            The money is great for a 3 1/2 month season so there are no excuses other than the lack of involvement from the parents!

            Nearly every Metro League and Three Rivers League team is already coached by a club coach and the quality of soccer is reflective of that club.

            If your school does not have a club coach then RECRUIT ONE! I can guarantee you that nearly every HS age club coach would jump at the chance to collect the extra money, coach some of their players and recruit new players to the club.
            Try telling our athletic director that. He has no interest in soccer and we are 6A school. We have a coach that has never, and I mean never coached club. There were plenty of quality club coaches that wanted the job but they went with a guy that has absolutely no experience and didn't play at any level to speak of. There's nothing the parents can do.

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              #51
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Try telling our athletic director that. He has no interest in soccer and we are 6A school. We have a coach that has never, and I mean never coached club. There were plenty of quality club coaches that wanted the job but they went with a guy that has absolutely no experience and didn't play at any level to speak of. There's nothing the parents can do.
              Tualatin?

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                #52
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Try telling our athletic director that. He has no interest in soccer and we are 6A school. We have a coach that has never, and I mean never coached club. There were plenty of quality club coaches that wanted the job but they went with a guy that has absolutely no experience and didn't play at any level to speak of. There's nothing the parents can do.
                Gee, you must be thinking west of Sherwood! The guy is CLUELESS! ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS!

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Try telling our athletic director that. He has no interest in soccer and we are 6A school. We have a coach that has never, and I mean never coached club. There were plenty of quality club coaches that wanted the job but they went with a guy that has absolutely no experience and didn't play at any level to speak of. There's nothing the parents can do.
                  You must be talking about Tualatin the only hope for them is the two varsity assistants. Because the head coach Jv and Jv assistant and freshman coach have never played the game! Maybe rec at best.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    You must be talking about Tualatin the only hope for them is the two varsity assistants. Because the head coach Jv and Jv assistant and freshman coach have never played the game! Maybe rec at best.
                    Haha everyone is thinking the same person that's too funny. That guys should be coaching rec kids. If there is no change in the future that program will go down in flames what a shame!

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Haha everyone is thinking the same person that's too funny. That guys should be coaching rec kids. If there is no change in the future that program will go down in flames what a shame!
                      Last time I checked it was the players that played the game. If you have a good core of club players then the coach shouldn't really matter that much. Club players aren't learning much in HS soccer anyway.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Last time I checked it was the players that played the game. If you have a good core of club players then the coach shouldn't really matter that much. Club players aren't learning much in HS soccer anyway.
                        Hold the phone are you telling me that my dearly beloved child will not be learning anything during club soccer? Most club coaches don't know what they're doing they just get more time and the girls get better because the speed of play in the players around them are a lot faster. The majority of all high school coaches are club coaches it just depends on which ones truly teach the game and hold kids accountable for the little mistakes and the little things that they have control over. Most club coaches and high school coaches never reprimand a kid for having a bad touch or turning the ball over 80% of the time. Think about it there's been other threads on this website with A license coaches who have no clue how to run an effective training session. The really good coaches are so far and few between that it makes the really bad ones look good. There are a handful of really really good coaches in the state that teach the game from the ground up and spend time on the little things but there are not enough of those coaches around to teach the game.

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                          #57
                          Parents have the POWER

                          If your Ad is short changing your soccer program by refusing to hire qualified coaches because he thinks they have to be teachers then you have to organize and work the process. The AD works for the Principal so start there with your request to up grade the position. He may have a policy to have the coaches be teachers which means you then have to go to the superintendent. If you do not get support from the superintendent then you go to the ELECTED school board as a vocal and ORGANIZED group that is requesting an upgrade in the quality of an important educational experience. If it's worth funding and presenting to the community as a school product then it should be the best product possible and they should hire the best person for the job!

                          Organized groups respectfully making rational arguments to ELECTED officials tend to get results.

                          If you have a crappy HS coach you only have yourselves to blame!

                          Signed
                          Been there done that

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            If your Ad is short changing your soccer program by refusing to hire qualified coaches because he thinks they have to be teachers then you have to organize and work the process. The AD works for the Principal so start there with your request to up grade the position. He may have a policy to have the coaches be teachers which means you then have to go to the superintendent. If you do not get support from the superintendent then you go to the ELECTED school board as a vocal and ORGANIZED group that is requesting an upgrade in the quality of an important educational experience. If it's worth funding and presenting to the community as a school product then it should be the best product possible and they should hire the best person for the job!

                            Organized groups respectfully making rational arguments to ELECTED officials tend to get results.

                            If you have a crappy HS coach you only have yourselves to blame!

                            Signed
                            Been there done that
                            and during all this enjoy watching your kid getting bounced down to JV2 and the new coach finding out what happened to the last one and your kid(s) never stepping on the pitch for a HS Varsity game.

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                              #59
                              Unless

                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              and during all this enjoy watching your kid getting bounced down to JV2 and the new coach finding out what happened to the last one and your kid(s) never stepping on the pitch for a HS Varsity game.
                              Unless you are the one that got coach bounced and you take over the rains and become head coach. Then you would be sure to make sure your kid(s) are happy at the expense of the community.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Unless you are the one that got coach bounced and you take over the rains and become head coach. Then you would be sure to make sure your kid(s) are happy at the expense of the community.
                                oh that's just wrong (but i'm not shocked)

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