Will the Vancouver Timbers ever Grow UP?

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I concur.

Me too. Wait, what are we agreeing about? I've lost track.

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It isnt a relegation....wash timbers is doing this on purpose....it's taken 3 years to complete the process to move to Oregon USYS system.

This is all mood point as boundaries are going away anyways. Affiliations will be based on MLS radius.

So you think soccer across the country will be based on 19 teams for all 50 states. That would be great for the 17 states with teams. I know there are a few more teams coming but that works for less than half of the US. This pipe dream is just that.

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It isnt a relegation....wash timbers is doing this on purpose....it's taken 3 years to complete the process to move to Oregon USYS system.

This is all mood point as boundaries are going away anyways. Affiliations will be based on MLS radius.

This won't fool anyone who can have a thought on their own.

My "mood point" is this. If this was the plan and was great in nature, I am quite certain that WT_FC celebrated this plan to it's board and, most importantly, to it's customers during try-outs. You know, something like this. "We know we are the only club in SW WA that can play in RCL, but we have told them we don't want that right anymore so we can play in the TA league. Now, all of you parents who are on our Red teams that want to play the best teams in the NW won't have to travel ALL the way to Seattle anymore, you can play incredible teams in the TA. You are welcome."

Give me a break. Just be honest about it, this is a colossal mess-up. You have opened the door for another club in SW WA to get this right which would signal the end to WT_FC as a "premier" club.

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This won't fool anyone who can have a thought on their own.

My "mood point" is this. If this was the plan and was great in nature, I am quite certain that WT_FC celebrated this plan to it's board and, most importantly, to it's customers during try-outs. You know, something like this. "We know we are the only club in SW WA that can play in RCL, but we have told them we don't want that right anymore so we can play in the TA league. Now, all of you parents who are on our Red teams that want to play the best teams in the NW won't have to travel ALL the way to Seattle anymore, you can play incredible teams in the TA. You are welcome."

Give me a break. Just be honest about it, this is a colossal mess-up. You have opened the door for another club in SW WA to get this right which would signal the end to WT_FC as a "premier" club.

C'mon man!!! WT_FC has never been known to be honest or deep thinkers with an inch of strategic thinking amongst the 4 DOCs or Exec Director.

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WT_FC Annual General Meeting is tonight at 6pm at Luke Jensen. I'm sure this is where they'll roll out their grand vision and plan for the (bleak) future...

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This won't fool anyone who can have a thought on their own.

My "mood point" is this. If this was the plan and was great in nature, I am quite certain that WT_FC celebrated this plan to it's board and, most importantly, to it's customers during try-outs. You know, something like this. "We know we are the only club in SW WA that can play in RCL, but we have told them we don't want that right anymore so we can play in the TA league. Now, all of you parents who are on our Red teams that want to play the best teams in the NW won't have to travel ALL the way to Seattle anymore, you can play incredible teams in the TA. You are welcome."

Give me a break. Just be honest about it, this is a colossal mess-up. You have opened the door for another club in SW WA to get this right which would signal the end to WT_FC as a "premier" club.

I'm happy we don't do RCL from U-10 thru U13....driving to seattle at a young age to play 60 minutes? Stupid.

When they have matured and the game becomes more important I think it's great to have that opportunity to do RCL.

Boys will always do RCL from U14 on anyways due to HS.

and you're right....it is mood point....top players will be leaving anyways from U14-U18 to the Timbers Academy.

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I'm happy we don't do RCL from U-10 thru U13....driving to seattle at a young age to play 60 minutes? Stupid.

When they have matured and the game becomes more important I think it's great to have that opportunity to do RCL.

Boys will always do RCL from U14 on anyways due to HS.

and you're right....it is mood point....top players will be leaving anyways from U14-U18 to the Timbers Academy.

Big change going forward is that WT_FC teams can't enter the RCL below U13 and when they do enter they will be placed in the lowest division. Fortunately you can move up 2 divisions per year in the RCL but still...

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Big change going forward is that WT_FC teams can't enter the RCL below U13 and when they do enter they will be placed in the lowest division. Fortunately you can move up 2 divisions per year in the RCL but still...

still better than burning kids and parents out.

with NWCL there is no need for RCL at younger ages. It's a smart move by ***C. Besides, they are invested into the PTFC and Thorns. It's great that they still have the option as the only RCL club in Clark County.

The reason they lost their voting rights was because they did not have any teams over the past 4 years in RCL at younger ages. ***C still has a great relationship with RCL and will continue to send boys teams there from U14 and on.

Next up is combining the OYSA and RCL....talks are under way and hopefully will be finalized prior to Fall of 2015. There will be a North and South League....both called RCL. That would be exciting for the boys and girls

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I heard the Sounders mens and women were going to put their name on the RCL Leagues....and that Crossfire is pissed off about that because they have their own academy and want nothing to do with Sounders.....

basically you will be looking at two leagues.....Sounders RCL North and Timbers/Thorns RCL South....it will be interesting how they structure it.

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I heard the Sounders mens and women were going to put their name on the RCL Leagues....and that Crossfire is pissed off about that because they have their own academy and want nothing to do with Sounders.....

basically you will be looking at two leagues.....Sounders RCL North and Timbers/Thorns RCL South....it will be interesting how they structure it.

If it wasn't for Royce pollard pulling out of the deal with the sounders a few years ago we could of had the chance of having a complex like starfire down here .

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still better than burning kids and parents out.

with NWCL there is no need for RCL at younger ages. It's a smart move by ***C. Besides, they are invested into the PTFC and Thorns. It's great that they still have the option as the only RCL club in Clark County.

The reason they lost their voting rights was because they did not have any teams over the past 4 years in RCL at younger ages. ***C still has a great relationship with RCL and will continue to send boys teams there from U14 and on.

Next up is combining the OYSA and RCL....talks are under way and hopefully will be finalized prior to Fall of 2015. There will be a North and South League....both called RCL. That would be exciting for the boys and girls

You've been spending too much time sitting on that bar stool at Autos listening to Sunny. There is no combined league in the works. WYS has enough problems of it's own, having lost over half its base to US Club Soccer, that it has lots of things to spend it's time and money on without wasting efforts on another state. What is much more likely to happen is that some of the bigger WA clubs like Crossfire, Seattle United, Washington Premier will jump ship and start their own US Club league so they can get away from the meddling of WYS and the Sounders.

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New Board...... Now what

So VT you have a new Board and the same challenges. What changes are you going to take to make any meaningful progress?

If you really are close to getting the loan for the Harmony turf shout it from the roof tops. If not give us the target date and set bench marks between now and then.

If you are going to eliminate parent coaches at the premier level let us know.

If you really are going to accelerate the coach training how about telling us what the curriculum is and publishing a schedule?

Transparency and communication is not only the key to a better informed membership but letting the rest of the soccer community know where you are headed builds a positive Brand Image of a professional organization that helps you attract more and better players AND coaches!

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So VT you have a new Board and the same challenges. What changes are you going to take to make any meaningful progress?

If you really are close to getting the loan for the Harmony turf shout it from the roof tops. If not give us the target date and set bench marks between now and then.

If you are going to eliminate parent coaches at the premier level let us know.

If you really are going to accelerate the coach training how about telling us what the curriculum is and publishing a schedule?

Transparency and communication is not only the key to a better informed membership but letting the rest of the soccer community know where you are headed builds a positive Brand Image of a professional organization that helps you attract more and better players AND coaches!

You are near genius levels. Volunteer for some committees and let's start taking advantage of your brilliance! But if you are not willing to volunteer... Well then... I'm sure the GM, board, or DOC's can put you to work. Step up.

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Reading through the VG and Harmony threads I am struck by the wishy washy club Administration and Board oversight.

Isn't there a group of parents willing to take on the problem and move the club to act in a more professional manner?

We need to clean house and start fresh.

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Step One ....Check

We need to clean house and start fresh.

It looks like the new Board understand that continuing to do the same thing over and over yet expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.

I sure hope they make sure the new GM is NOT a soccer guy but an EXECUTIVE and a FUND RAISER!