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    #91
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    That's funny!

    It's completely false.
    No way timbers are subsidizing a one girls team, let alone multiple age groups.

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      #92
      The NFL exploded in popularity and has made billions from shifting their marketing to women.

      I don't think that it's too far out to think the Timbers will subsidize in the same manner as they do with the boys side.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The NFL exploded in popularity and has made billions from shifting their marketing to women.

        I don't think that it's too far out to think the Timbers will subsidize in the same manner as they do with the boys side.
        Even if it's free, what good is an academy that has the same TA coaches as today and has no one to play against?

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          #94
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Even if it's free, what good is an academy that has the same TA coaches as today and has no one to play against?
          Same can be said for ECNL

          Same mediocre coaches as before.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Same can be said for ECNL

            Same mediocre coaches as before.
            Not same at all. Level of competition will be the best available for girls. Ecnl is better, no question.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Not same at all. Level of competition will be the best available for girls. Ecnl is better, no question.
              Not same at all? So tell us, what is different other than the competition? You don't have one coach that is new. And there is no new training for them. No new accountability. It's the same as before. And from what has been stated out of the Academy, the training methods that they will employ are different. And there is oversight and accountability from a third party. ECNL is the same coaches and the same training, just more frequent.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Not same at all. Level of competition will be the best available for girls. Ecnl is better, no question.
                Doesn't matter when it's the same bad coaches and the teams are getting blown out.

                I'd rather do less competition with a better coach.

                Besides, you idiots are talking about competition while your kid still can't hit a ball with their left foot. Sounds pretty smart to me morons. 10k a year isn't going to help that.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Doesn't matter when it's the same bad coaches and the teams are getting blown out.

                  I'd rather do less competition with a better coach.

                  Besides, you idiots are talking about competition while your kid still can't hit a ball with their left foot. Sounds pretty smart to me morons. 10k a year isn't going to help that.
                  Some coaches in our area don't get the credit they deserve for being good, because the spread out talent and lower level of soccer being played. Couldn't you make the argument that some of those "same mediocre coaches" are now working in the professional ranks with Timbers and Thorns? What, they woke up one day and were all of the sudden good to be at that level?

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Some coaches in our area don't get the credit they deserve for being good, because the spread out talent and lower level of soccer being played. Couldn't you make the argument that some of those "same mediocre coaches" are now working in the professional ranks with Timbers and Thorns? What, they woke up one day and were all of the sudden good to be at that level?
                    You can't say same coaches as a negative with the TA and then say the same coaches as a positive for ECNL. That's what it appears some people are saying.

                    Also, you don't seem to have issue with your dd not being able to hit the ball with her left foot. That's kind of funny but I watch a lot of kids at my dd's age level and many of them can't hit the ball very well with their off foot. It's pretty sad.

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                      Money is a powerful accountability tool

                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Not same at all? So tell us, what is different other than the competition? You don't have one coach that is new. And there is no new training for them. No new accountability. It's the same as before. And from what has been stated out of the Academy, the training methods that they will employ are different. And there is oversight and accountability from a third party. ECNL is the same coaches and the same training, just more frequent.
                      You may not appreciate the quality of all of the coaches for the ECNL clubs but they will be under tremendous pressure to up their game as the consumers are going to be paying for a specific product and expect results.

                      There is going to be pressure on each coach both professionally and businesswise to deliver a product that is noticeably different than what they have put out in the past. They are going to have 1/3 more practice time in which players and parents are not going to accept simplistic training.

                      I know that TA will be able to meet this challenge and we will have to see if FM is up to the challenge. If not he can appoint other more qualified coaches within OR Crossfire to preplace himself.

                      DK any of the FCP staff assigned but the same pressure both professionally and market wise will be there.

                      On the flip side until we see the number of teams, league competition and the coaching assignments for an Academy there is really nothing to compare now is there?

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                        Where did you read that?

                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        And from what has been stated out of the Academy, the training methods that they will employ are different. .
                        Please share the written correspondence about the Academy coaching & training.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Please share the written correspondence about the Academy coaching & training.
                          Didn't read it anywhere. It's being presented to WT teams

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            You can't say same coaches as a negative with the TA and then say the same coaches as a positive for ECNL. That's what it appears some people are saying.

                            Also, you don't seem to have issue with your dd not being able to hit the ball with her left foot. That's kind of funny but I watch a lot of kids at my dd's age level and many of them can't hit the ball very well with their off foot. It's pretty sad.
                            I did not include that in my response, but you are absolutely right that many kids boys and girls can't hit a ball with their left foot. It's sad how bad at it some are, or how much they shy away from it.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              That'd be very unusual if they don't treat the girls the same as the boys.
                              I think this is what everyone is banking on.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I did not include that in my response, but you are absolutely right that many kids boys and girls can't hit a ball with their left foot. It's sad how bad at it some are, or how much they shy away from it.
                                I have a younger boy and he works on it a lot. He isn't great with his left, but he's getting better at it as he really wants to be strong with both feet.

                                And yes, it's sad that some people get to U17 and still can't use their off foot with skill. I don't know what all college coaches look for, but I have heard that they do watch and see if the player can use both feet. Good defenders recognize it right away.

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