The TRUTH about ECNL

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Complete waste for her to be challenged S/

Truth #1- 85% of the female soccer players that want to play college soccer end up playing locally (within three states) of where they live.

this is a fact.....only the top 1% of athletes even leave for a big school. It is a complete waste of money to pay an extra $10-$12K so your daughter can come back home and end up calling UW or UP home. Most will play Div II and/or NAIA anyways

Oh yes there is zero benefit from playing against better competition for 3 or 4 years. Nope she will not get better or improve her game at all. Just stay home and kick the ball around the racquetball court and play in the OPL/OYSA league.

I think we should apply the same logic to all youth sports. Your DD should always play the Muni and never try the better courses. Don't bother to play on the traveling teams of any sport because if you are good the coaches will find you.....yep those coaches from one of the three neighboring sates will find you.....FACE PALM.

Some day jusssss maaaaaaybe after a few years of ECNL and a few high profile signings or better yet higher scholarship percentages AND fewer drop outs you will understand this is what your DD's competition for the top spots is doing.....oh hell you'll never admit your wrong. Enjoy those buggy whips!

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Here is another confirmation of the benefits of the ECNL format:

ECNL offer golden opportunity for recruiting
Article Written by J.R. Eskilson
Published: June 27, 2013

One of the major pulls of elite club soccer is college recruiting. It is the goal (and likely destination) for the vast majority of youth players that compete in the sport at the highest level in the United States.

Last week, ECNL, the female-only nation-wide club soccer league, held its marquee-scouting event in Colorado. According to the league, over 450 scouts were in attendances to watch the playoffs for the U15, U16, and U17 age groups, as well as the U18 National Finals.

With that many eyes staring at the fields, there is a lot of pressure on the players to attract that glint that will make them stand out from the herd and land that lucrative collegiate scholarship offer.

http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-...iting_aid28947

No one says ECNL can't lead you to a scholarship. But the teams need to be good and compete well to get those types of looks from colleges. I think that is what is in question when talent has been diluted as it seems to be here in Oregon. And it is unaffordable to a large portion of the talent to complicate things further. Good luck to all. Each family will need to decide if ROI is there with the Oregon options. I personally am not quite ready to get on board. If the teams do well, I may become a supporter. If we can figure out a way to channel all top talent to ECNL we may be on to something.

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No one says ECNL can't lead you to a scholarship. But the teams need to be good and compete well to get those types of looks from colleges. I think that is what is in question when talent has been diluted as it seems to be here in Oregon. And it is unaffordable to a large portion of the talent to complicate things further. Good luck to all. Each family will need to decide if ROI is there with the Oregon options. I personally am not quite ready to get on board. If the teams do well, I may become a supporter. If we can figure out a way to channel all top talent to ECNL we may be on to something.

Here is the best advice I can give someone on the fence. Have your DD tryout. If she is selected then ask for scholarship aid. If she is good enough there will be "some" help available.

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The best players want to play on the best teams playing the best competition. It isn't just about exposure and college recruitment. You're an idiot if you do this as an investment. You do this because your child is driven.

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No one says ECNL can't lead you to a scholarship. But the teams need to be good and compete well to get those types of looks from colleges. I think that is what is in question when talent has been diluted as it seems to be here in Oregon. And it is unaffordable to a large portion of the talent to complicate things further. Good luck to all. Each family will need to decide if ROI is there with the Oregon options. I personally am not quite ready to get on board. If the teams do well, I may become a supporter. If we can figure out a way to channel all top talent to ECNL we may be on to something.

I understand your apprehension on something new. How long are you willing to wait before you decide to be part of making the teams great? If you have questions, give one of the ECNL clubs a call.

Also from the article:

Recruiting in girls club soccer moves much quicker than its male counterparts, as top players enter high school with interest from college coaches already and a verbal commitment not too far off in the future.

For instance, Slammers’ standout center midfielder and U17 Women’s National Team member Natalie Jacobs, only 15 years old, gave her verbal commitment to Notre Dame earlier this year.

Others at the playoffs also had long ago made their commitment, and told TopDrawerSoccer.com that these games offered a chance to show their future college coaches what they are capable of against future collegiate athletes.

The coaches effusively gave praise to ECNL for providing this opportunity in a competitive setting.

“More importantly than college coaches, this is probably the best league in the world for girls soccer,” Moore said. “Just to be a part of this league – the best coaches will definitely want to see it.”

With hundred of college coaches flocking to the Showcases and playoffs, the ECNL has definitely made its mark on the collegiate recruiting system.

http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-...iting_aid28947

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Here is another confirmation of the benefits of the ECNL format:

ECNL offer golden opportunity for recruiting
Article Written by J.R. Eskilson
Published: June 27, 2013

One of the major pulls of elite club soccer is college recruiting. It is the goal (and likely destination) for the vast majority of youth players that compete in the sport at the highest level in the United States.

Last week, ECNL, the female-only nation-wide club soccer league, held its marquee-scouting event in Colorado. According to the league, over 450 scouts were in attendances to watch the playoffs for the U15, U16, and U17 age groups, as well as the U18 National Finals.

With that many eyes staring at the fields, there is a lot of pressure on the players to attract that glint that will make them stand out from the herd and land that lucrative collegiate scholarship offer.

http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-...iting_aid28947

That's not a confirmation. If it is then I can post an article about how many coaches were at Surf, which was about the same.

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Not defending the decision but the misinformation.

By spreading more misinformation. Brilliant.

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That's not a confirmation. If it is then I can post an article about how many coaches were at Surf, which was about the same.

And how many Oregon teams will be there in the super group? Plus that is just one tournament. ECNL gives you the same 5 to 8 times a year. There is no comparible alternative to the ECNL for exposure and experience.

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That's not a confirmation. If it is then I can post an article about how many coaches were at Surf, which was about the same.

Congratulations on having your team already accepted to Surf Cup every year. Way to go!

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Hate to break it to everyone, but if you truly want a full ride to college then focus on academics. outside of the top few players in any state the majority of female soccer players get a small scholarship for soccer and then the school makes up the rest of their scholarship based on GRADES!!!! they might pay 25% of a female soccer players tuition, then they typically help that athlete to find other scholarships to help cover the other 75%. Whatever they can't cover is up to the parents. Sorry to break the news, but this is pretty standard.

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Hate to break it to everyone, but if you truly want a full ride to college then focus on academics. outside of the top few players in any state the majority of female soccer players get a small scholarship for soccer and then the school makes up the rest of their scholarship based on GRADES!!!! they might pay 25% of a female soccer players tuition, then they typically help that athlete to find other scholarships to help cover the other 75%. Whatever they can't cover is up to the parents. Sorry to break the news, but this is pretty standard.

from someone with first hand experience I will say this is spot on. You can't lose focusing on academics.

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And how many Oregon teams will be there in the super group? Plus that is just one tournament. ECNL gives you the same 5 to 8 times a year. There is no comparible alternative to the ECNL for exposure and experience.

You're right. No ECNL team from Oregon is going to worthy enough for Surf so being a mediocre team will still get you into those tournaments.

And I notice that you don't address the issues associated with being on a bad ECNL team. I've spoken with coaches and they don't watch games where teams are overmatched. And they said they can't help but associate a bad team has bad players so they are biased against those players. So if you are a good player being on a bad ECNL team works against you.

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You are speaking to idiot coaches then

You're right. No ECNL team from Oregon is going to worthy enough for Surf so being a mediocre team will still get you into those tournaments.

And I notice that you don't address the issues associated with being on a bad ECNL team. I've spoken with coaches and they don't watch games where teams are overmatched. And they said they can't help but associate a bad team has bad players so they are biased against those players. So if you are a good player being on a bad ECNL team works against you.

Who ever you are talking to they are not coaches at top programs. Coaches know that they are recruiting PLAYERS not teams. If you have done your work before the showcase sending the DVD's and written material and the coach has a need for that position in that year they will come to watch regardless of the quality of the team because they also want to see how the players does against better competition.

Additionally an experienced coach can see the players skill and adjust for the quality of the team she plays on.

I call MALE BOVINE EXCREMENT on your claim to have talked to a REAL college coach about this subject.

BTW the coaches watch the slaughters too so if your DD happens to be on the other team and performs they have an opportunity to catch the eye of coaches too. Bottom line the more times you have a chance to be seen by coaches the more chances you as a player have to shine and those opportunities FAR exceed the number of opportunities that ANY Oregon girls team has EVER been given EVVVVVVERRRRRR.

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Who ever you are talking to they are not coaches at top programs. Coaches know that they are recruiting PLAYERS not teams. If you have done your work before the showcase sending the DVD's and written material and the coach has a need for that position in that year they will come to watch regardless of the quality of the team because they also want to see how the players does against better competition.

Additionally an experienced coach can see the players skill and adjust for the quality of the team she plays on.

I call MALE BOVINE EXCREMENT on your claim to have talked to a REAL college coach about this subject.

BTW the coaches watch the slaughters too so if your DD happens to be on the other team and performs they have an opportunity to catch the eye of coaches too. Bottom line the more times you have a chance to be seen by coaches the more chances you as a player have to shine and those opportunities FAR exceed the number of opportunities that ANY Oregon girls team has EVER been given EVVVVVVERRRRRR.

Thank you for telling us the obvious.

And yes I've spoken to coaches about it. Sorry if the truth hurts.

And coaches can't evaluate players at blowouts. They have told me they need to see evenly matched games to see how a player reacts to situations. Being outmanned does nothing for them. So pdx vs some of the low ECNL teams will give a proper venue for them. Pdx vs established teams will give them nothing to evaluate. Tell me which age group here in pdx is going to be decent next year?

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Thank you for telling us the obvious.

And yes I've spoken to coaches about it. Sorry if the truth hurts.

And coaches can't evaluate players at blowouts. They have told me they need to see evenly matched games to see how a player reacts to situations. Being outmanned does nothing for them. So pdx vs some of the low ECNL teams will give a proper venue for them. Pdx vs established teams will give them nothing to evaluate. Tell me which age group here in pdx is going to be decent next year?

So you're saying that college coaches at D1 schools want to see players on bad teams play against bad teams so that they are evenly matched to make an evaluation? They want to see the player play at a lower level to see if they can handle the higher D1 level? You are going to get a coach to get on a plane, fly to Portland and watch a specific game between two "evenly matched" Portland teams? That makes absolutely no sense.

Every bad team that my daughter's team has played, there has always been a few players that still stand out based upon their talent. A "bad" ECNL team doesn't mean every single player sucks. It is a matter of depth. If a skillful player can shine individually on a average team, they will get noticed. Typically there has already been communication between the school and player leading up to these events, as previously stated.

We'll take our chances with ECNL and you take your chances having a coach fly to Portland.