FC Portland and ECNL

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Hold on there fella.

You are stating things with no backup. Please show us that ECNL players, by mere virtue of them being on ECNL, get more diverese and better offers. You seem to think ECNL makes gold out of iron.

It may make you a better player. However, if your ECNL team sucks, which I suspect many of the PDX ones will, then you aren't going to show well to these recruiters and I'm not sure how much development will occur by being pushed back into your own defensive 1/3. I've seen my kid's teams beat other teams 5-0, 6-0, 10-0... and I don't think that did anything for the other team's development. I will not be surprised to see some of the PDX ECNL teams getting those types of beat downs.

I will agree that our 14's & 15's are going to struggle but I think our 16's and 17's will be competitive if they can find enough speed.

As for the type of offers you get I have first and experience with this subject and have seen the offers of my ECNL team mates which would not have been possible hiding out in our corner of the country with a trip to Vegas & Surf as the only exposure of lesser developed game skills.

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I will agree that our 14's & 15's are going to struggle but I think our 16's and 17's will be competitive if they can find enough speed.

As for the type of offers you get I have first and experience with this subject and have seen the offers of my ECNL team mates which would not have been possible hiding out in our corner of the country with a trip to Vegas & Surf as the only exposure of lesser developed game skills.

I guess then if my DD was playing ECNL, then she would be getting offers to Santa Clara and Stanford and FSU and Virginia rather than the one's she is getting.

And the 16s and 17s are going to be competitive? Please elaborate on why you think this. Please tell us the basis of this prediction.

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Check out FC Nova

Take a look at FC Nova's results so far this year. There are a number of 5-0, 7-0, 3-0, 6-1, and so on games. I even saw one that was 10-1. Every age group for them has suffered a number of beat downs. Some worse than others of course. How much development did they get out of those beat downs? Now if you can keep the match to a one goal differential, and you match up well, then playing top teams will only make you better. But being severly outmatched does nothing for you.

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Looking back

I guess then if my DD was playing ECNL, then she would be getting offers to Santa Clara and Stanford and FSU and Virginia rather than the one's she is getting.

And the 16s and 17s are going to be competitive? Please elaborate on why you think this. Please tell us the basis of this prediction.

The reason I think the older teams will be competitive is that the OR Crossfire 17's held their own against the WPFC & Crossfire teams in NWCL and that was with out the benefit of consolidation with Mercury who have 5 or 6 quality players. Similarly Onyx (15's) competed favorably without any additional talent from Xfire or outside. I know there is plenty of the talent at the 16 age at each club so it's "possible" to assemble a good team at that age also.

DK if the bulk of the 17's are up for spending $5K to continue as 18's but if they did a combine they would compete favorably. Not saying they would finish in the top half of the division just that history says they are not going to regularly get work 3 or 5 to zip.

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The reason I think the older teams will be competitive is that the OR Crossfire 17's held their own against the WPFC & Crossfire teams in NWCL and that was with out the benefit of consolidation with Mercury who have 5 or 6 quality players. Similarly Onyx (15's) competed favorably without any additional talent from Xfire or outside. I know there is plenty of the talent at the 16 age at each club so it's "possible" to assemble a good team at that age also.

DK if the bulk of the 17's are up for spending $5K to continue as 18's but if they did a combine they would compete favorably. Not saying they would finish in the top half of the division just that history says they are not going to regularly get work 3 or 5 to zip.

You mean they held their own against ECNL reserve teams and play ups. from younger teams.

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The reason I think the older teams will be competitive is that the OR Crossfire 17's held their own against the WPFC & Crossfire teams in NWCL and that was with out the benefit of consolidation with Mercury who have 5 or 6 quality players. Similarly Onyx (15's) competed favorably without any additional talent from Xfire or outside. I know there is plenty of the talent at the 16 age at each club so it's "possible" to assemble a good team at that age also.

DK if the bulk of the 17's are up for spending $5K to continue as 18's but if they did a combine they would compete favorably. Not saying they would finish in the top half of the division just that history says they are not going to regularly get work 3 or 5 to zip.

You lost me at Mercury having 6 quality players....

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Hold on there fella.

You are stating things with no backup. Please show us that ECNL players, by mere virtue of them being on ECNL, get more diverese and better offers. You seem to think ECNL makes gold out of iron.

It may make you a better player. However, if your ECNL team sucks, which I suspect many of the PDX ones will, then you aren't going to show well to these recruiters and I'm not sure how much development will occur by being pushed back into your own defensive 1/3. I've seen my kid's teams beat other teams 5-0, 6-0, 10-0... and I don't think that did anything for the other team's development. I will not be surprised to see some of the PDX ECNL teams getting those types of beat downs.

It's not by virtue. It is due to the type of players the ECNL draws. This shouldn't be hard to understand.

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Take a look at FC Nova's results so far this year. There are a number of 5-0, 7-0, 3-0, 6-1, and so on games. I even saw one that was 10-1. Every age group for them has suffered a number of beat downs. Some worse than others of course. How much development did they get out of those beat downs? Now if you can keep the match to a one goal differential, and you match up well, then playing top teams will only make you better. But being severly outmatched does nothing for you.

The FC Nova teams were routinely beaten 5,6,7-0 by local teams when they played in NWCL the past couple of years, so maybe, just maybe some of our ECNL teams will be competitive.

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You mean they held their own against ECNL reserve teams and play ups. from younger teams.

At 15s it was not their Reserves.

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The FC Nova teams were routinely beaten 5,6,7-0 by local teams when they played in NWCL the past couple of years, so maybe, just maybe some of our ECNL teams will be competitive.

Certainly wasn't the case for the 16s

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Take a look at FC Nova's results so far this year. There are a number of 5-0, 7-0, 3-0, 6-1, and so on games. I even saw one that was 10-1. Every age group for them has suffered a number of beat downs. Some worse than others of course. How much development did they get out of those beat downs? Now if you can keep the match to a one goal differential, and you match up well, then playing top teams will only make you better. But being severly outmatched does nothing for you.

I have seen regular club teams beating FC nova

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Or the 17's

At 15s it was not their Reserves.

Did the ECNL teams take the NWCL as serious as a league game? No, but they had personal pride on the line which is why the WA Crossfire played their regular team and rotation.

Crossfire Oregon or THUSC will need to add 3-4 quality players to every base team with a focus on getting faster.

FC will need to add 5-6 players for depth also with a focus on speed.

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Did the ECNL teams take the NWCL as serious as a league game? No, but they had personal pride on the line which is why the WA Crossfire played their regular team and rotation.

Crossfire Oregon or THUSC will need to add 3-4 quality players to every base team with a focus on getting faster.

FC will need to add 5-6 players for depth also with a focus on speed.

Do you think FC, Crossfire, and THUSC purposely look for slower player?

I am sure they try to get the best players available and speed is a factor.

We would all like to add 5-6 quality players with speed. While we are at it, I would love to add some size with the speed. Now why don't you tell us all something that is less obvious.

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Do you think FC, Crossfire, and THUSC purposely look for slower player?

I am sure they try to get the best players available and speed is a factor.

We would all like to add 5-6 quality players with speed. While we are at it, I would love to add some size with the speed. Now why don't you tell us all something that is less obvious.

I would like to add 15 Messi's and cut the rest. Yes, that is what I want. Except keep my DD on the team with the 15 Messi's.

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Do you think FC, Crossfire, and THUSC purposely look for slower player?

I am sure they try to get the best players available and speed is a factor.

We would all like to add 5-6 quality players with speed. While we are at it, I would love to add some size with the speed. Now why don't you tell us all something that is less obvious.

Skill?

Always getting overlooked around here.