ECNL and the truth

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I love how socialism has to be a part of every discussion. ECNL is expensive. Period. Soccer is expensive. Period. If someone doesn't pay full ride then they are being subsidized by someone else. Sorry, kids are expensive. You should know that going in. I'm tired of this crap of one family should play for free while everyone else pays extra to support them.

He needs ecnl because otherwise if it came down to the best kids, he can't buy his kids way on to a team.

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How does the coaching improve top to bottom as you say. It's the same coaches. You people are so delusional.

Yeah, that's one of those idiot salesman who will say anything to get you to do ecnl. Coaches will be the same old coaches and training will actually be worse considering how weak and diluted the teams will be. Next they ll say you get thorns coaching staff at trainings.....wait that's for the thorns academy...

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Great. That's fine. I'm not pushing ECNL on anyone. And I'm not justifying the cost. I'm just arguing against the request that the cost be subsidized for those who can't afford it. I wasn't given everything in life, I worked long and hard to achieve where I am. I'm not the offspring of a millionaire. My kids are. I didn't work hard so that I can support the slackers.

Not everyone without your millions is a slacker!

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Kids will migrate over regardless if they are on an ECNL team or not. Having ECNL will improve the coaching and training from top to bottom. EVEN IF your not on the ECNL squad. They will have plenty of kids to fill those gaps of the ones that go to ECNL. When it comes to girls soccer OPL is now the place to be. OYSA on the girls side is going to fade away.

How will it improve overall coaching for a club? Please give me some exact ways it will improve it. Are they bringing in a complete new staff on the girls side? From What I see it will be the same coaches at the younger age groups as they would have anyways. The top coaches should be taking the ENCL teams which only affects those few teams. Everything else remains the same.

I think your overestimating the effect a bit.

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How will it improve overall coaching for a club? Please give me some exact ways it will improve it. Are they bringing in a complete new staff on the girls side? From What I see it will be the same coaches at the younger age groups as they would have anyways. The top coaches should be taking the ENCL teams which only affects those few teams. Everything else remains the same.

I think your overestimating the effect a bit.

So what you're saying is that the best coaches will be allocated to ECNL and the remaining FCP/THUSC/CF teams will get the leftovers? That makes sense. Thanks.

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So what you're saying is that the best coaches will be allocated to ECNL and the remaining FCP/THUSC/CF teams will get the leftovers? That makes sense. Thanks.

No club in this area is blessed with an entire club full of stud coaches. Every club has their group of extremely good coaches. Those coaches tend to take multiple teams (usually 2-3 teams right now). I will be curious how many teams those coaches can continue to take and do a good job with if they are assigned a head coaching spot for ENCL. I am expecting ENCL teams to practice up to 4 times a week. Thats a lot of time dedicated to that ENCL team. That coach is going to e judged based on that team as well so their attention will be much more on that team than any other team they may be a part of. Without a huge influx of new quality coaches I'm not sure how the rest of their non-ENCL teams will improve their coaching? At best they will be the exact same in coaching as before.

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No club in this area is blessed with an entire club full of stud coaches. Every club has their group of extremely good coaches. Those coaches tend to take multiple teams (usually 2-3 teams right now). I will be curious how many teams those coaches can continue to take and do a good job with if they are assigned a head coaching spot for ENCL. I am expecting ENCL teams to practice up to 4 times a week. Thats a lot of time dedicated to that ENCL team. That coach is going to e judged based on that team as well so their attention will be much more on that team than any other team they may be a part of. Without a huge influx of new quality coaches I'm not sure how the rest of their non-ENCL teams will improve their coaching? At best they will be the exact same in coaching as before.

Just wait.... you'll see the influx.

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So what you're saying is that the best coaches will be allocated to ECNL and the remaining FCP/THUSC/CF teams will get the leftovers? That makes sense. Thanks.

Not exactly. The TA gets the leftovers. Guys like SD, GO, etc.

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This guy doesn't really want the best team.

Great. That's fine. I'm not pushing ECNL on anyone. And I'm not justifying the cost. I'm just arguing against the request that the cost be subsidized for those who can't afford it. I wasn't given everything in life, I worked long and hard to achieve where I am. I'm not the offspring of a millionaire. My kids are. I didn't work hard so that I can support the slackers.

Congratulations on your prosperity, first of all, and for sharing your status, political leanings, and tax bracket so eloquently. Super-classy. The reality is that you only want you and yours to be surrounded with those of like financial means in every situation. The best way to achieve this is to join an exclusive Country Club and never, ever leave those gates. For the rest of us, that would be ideal if you did that as well. The reality is that in life, and specifically here, the world game of soccer, the truly skilled and gifted players are going to come from all walks of life, and if you truly wanted your kid to play with the best, you would embrace that. You might find that those kids who do not have millionaire parents, like you, have an excellent work ethic and may, in fact, work long and hard to get to where you are...and might someday be your kids' boss. Oh, wait. That is what you are REALLY afraid of. You are hoping to beat them down with your really large, arrogant, self-entitled, checkbook to keep your kids in their overly-entitled bubble. Good luck with that. Here is hoping that the ECNL is truly a competitive showcase for the most talented kids in Oregon who work hard and EARN their spots.

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No club in this area is blessed with an entire club full of stud coaches. Every club has their group of extremely good coaches. Those coaches tend to take multiple teams (usually 2-3 teams right now). I will be curious how many teams those coaches can continue to take and do a good job with if they are assigned a head coaching spot for ENCL. I am expecting ENCL teams to practice up to 4 times a week. Thats a lot of time dedicated to that ENCL team. That coach is going to e judged based on that team as well so their attention will be much more on that team than any other team they may be a part of. Without a huge influx of new quality coaches I'm not sure how the rest of their non-ENCL teams will improve their coaching? At best they will be the exact same in coaching as before.

But doesn't WT_FC have Steve "Stud"ley? Or is he jumping ship back to LO to coach an ECNL team?

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But doesn't WT_FC have Steve "Stud"ley? Or is he jumping ship back to LO to coach an ECNL team?

Not sure how calling out 1 coach is really appropriate just because you clearly have an axe to grind.

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Congratulations on your prosperity, first of all, and for sharing your status, political leanings, and tax bracket so eloquently. Super-classy. The reality is that you only want you and yours to be surrounded with those of like financial means in every situation. The best way to achieve this is to join an exclusive Country Club and never, ever leave those gates. For the rest of us, that would be ideal if you did that as well. The reality is that in life, and specifically here, the world game of soccer, the truly skilled and gifted players are going to come from all walks of life, and if you truly wanted your kid to play with the best, you would embrace that. You might find that those kids who do not have millionaire parents, like you, have an excellent work ethic and may, in fact, work long and hard to get to where you are...and might someday be your kids' boss. Oh, wait. That is what you are REALLY afraid of. You are hoping to beat them down with your really large, arrogant, self-entitled, checkbook to keep your kids in their overly-entitled bubble. Good luck with that. Here is hoping that the ECNL is truly a competitive showcase for the most talented kids in Oregon who work hard and EARN their spots.

Great post. That has always been their fear.

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Not sure how calling out 1 coach is really appropriate just because you clearly have an axe to grind.

He's a big boy. I'm sure he can handle it.

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And I would think any boys team at one of these ECNL clubs would be getting out as fast as possible.

Inevitably the clubs top level admins will all be focused on ECNL. More likely than not the boys teams will just be kept around to fund the girls program.

Yeah! Just look at Crossfire(WA) or Washington Premier!!! I mean seriously, do they even have a boys program!
....er...wait a minute....
....um.....let me get back to you on that...
...nevermind....

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Yeah! Just look at Crossfire(WA) or Washington Premier!!! I mean seriously, do they even have a boys program!
....er...wait a minute....
....um.....let me get back to you on that...
...nevermind....

Yeah, lets not even start comparing Crossfire (WA) and WPFC with the portland clubs. the size and history are completely different.