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    Coaching Continuing Ed

    Hmmm. Dutch national team asst coach OR Mike Smith and John Madding of OYSA/Timbers??? You pick.

    https://twitter.com/OregonPremier/st...403200/photo/1

    #2
    LOL! Tough choice....

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Hmmm. Dutch national team asst coach OR Mike Smith and John Madding of OYSA/Timbers??? You pick.

      https://twitter.com/OregonPremier/st...403200/photo/1
      Compared to Aime Jacquet, Jurgen Klinsmann, Steve Sampson, April Heinrichs, John Ellinger and Tony DiCicco? Hoek is working with US Club...if you want to compare coaching resources than you have to put US Club head to head with USYS...just saying...

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Compared to Aime Jacquet, Jurgen Klinsmann, Steve Sampson, April Heinrichs, John Ellinger and Tony DiCicco? Hoek is working with US Club...if you want to compare coaching resources than you have to put US Club head to head with USYS...just saying...
        You're not very bright are you.... this is Hoek giving a presentation to OPL DOC's you fool!

        What are the Timbers providing (you're paying for this BTW) you beyond Mike Smith yammering away about... ?

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          #5
          Mike Smith & John Madding

          are respected for their coaching acumen about as much as the various DOC'in the greater PDX area get.

          little to none.

          MS and JM our first class GW's donkey's. Not professional soccer coaches.

          Contrasted by the local DOC's who either run their club without any oversight or they answer to the volunteer parent who is 'sitting' in as club president for a couple of years.

          Having anybody from outside this incestuous cesspool of mercenaries and OYSA suckup's give advice or direction on how to coach youth is refreshing.

          Sadly a flash in in the pan....

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            #6
            Real Coahing Development

            Reading the original post makes me laugh out loud! Nuuuthing says armature hour more than thinking these "association clinic's". Contrast that to WA Crossfire who EVERY year sends 4-6 coaches to the home club FC Inter Milan for 10 days of training.

            That folks is how a professional club is run and develops coaches.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              You're not very bright are you.... this is Hoek giving a presentation to OPL DOC's you fool!

              What are the Timbers providing (you're paying for this BTW) you beyond Mike Smith yammering away about... ?
              Giving a presentation under the employ of US Club. This has absolutely no connection to OPL. The closest you can get is to say this is connected to THUSC DOC being on the US Club board, so your question should be THUSC or OYSA.

              BtW I would suggest you are the dim bulb, since you can't seem to accept there may be two different solutions that work for different people. You are little, afraid, and frankly awfully sad.

              But not my problem. Move on, your opinion doesn't add value anymore.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Giving a presentation under the employ of US Club. This has absolutely no connection to OPL. The closest you can get is to say this is connected to THUSC DOC being on the US Club board, so your question should be THUSC or OYSA.

                BtW I would suggest you are the dim bulb, since you can't seem to accept there may be two different solutions that work for different people. You are little, afraid, and frankly awfully sad.

                But not my problem. Move on, your opinion doesn't add value anymore.
                Logic clearly fails you. Congratulations. The OPL is a sanctioned US Club league. At that, this absolutely has a connection to the OPL. Not to mention this was a seminar for OPL DOCs. Again, this has to do with the OPL. Even if you want to go as far as the DOC of THUSC being on both US Club board and the OPL board AGAIN makes this about the OPL.

                So your premise is completely flawed to the point of embarrassing.

                Now your attempt to make this about THUSC vs OYSA is ludicrous. The is about GW and the Timbers manipulating soccer. This is about the Timbers and the OPC who represents far more than THUSC.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Logic clearly fails you. Congratulations. The OPL is a sanctioned US Club league. At that, this absolutely has a connection to the OPL. Not to mention this was a seminar for OPL DOCs. Again, this has to do with the OPL. Even if you want to go as far as the DOC of THUSC being on both US Club board and the OPL board AGAIN makes this about the OPL.

                  So your premise is completely flawed to the point of embarrassing.

                  Now your attempt to make this about THUSC vs OYSA is ludicrous. The is about GW and the Timbers manipulating soccer. This is about the Timbers and the OPC who represents far more than THUSC.
                  So who attended other than OPL DOCs?

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                    #10
                    Does it matter? Licenses are worthless anyway. I know two A license coaches who are worse than the rec coaches that my kid played for.

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                      #11
                      'A' License

                      Is not easy to get.

                      In the united states most 'A' license coaches end up coaching rec kids, just they way it is in America.

                      If someone has no team coaching ability but just the ability to encourage your child and support them and tell them they are great tends to make you a 'better' coach than most in the eyes of the average american soccer parent.

                      Most in not all american parents have never played the game at any significant level or been exposed to high level soccer training.

                      Why do you think the nomadic private trainers are loved by the kids and parents in the area but couldn't coach their way out of a paper bag in team sports.

                      If you want find out who is great soccer coach is, leave this country.

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                        #12
                        I want to know the same thing...

                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        So who attended other than OPL DOCs?
                        If this was just a session attended by the DOC's, it doesn't fit my definition of coaching development. It is little more than a retreat paid for by OPL. The idea of coaching education is it helps the coaches on the field get better. My experience with OPL would say this was just a private session, but nice try attempting to make it look like something.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Is not easy to get.

                          In the united states most 'A' license coaches end up coaching rec kids, just they way it is in America.

                          If someone has no team coaching ability but just the ability to encourage your child and support them and tell them they are great tends to make you a 'better' coach than most in the eyes of the average american soccer parent.

                          Most in not all american parents have never played the game at any significant level or been exposed to high level soccer training.

                          Why do you think the nomadic private trainers are loved by the kids and parents in the area but couldn't coach their way out of a paper bag in team sports.

                          If you want find out who is great soccer coach is, leave this country.

                          A good lot of A license coaches are a joke in this area and you don't need to have much coaching experience to get it. Id choose the coach who cares about my kid instead of one who took a 5 day class from coaches who state, coaching license doesn't make you a good coach and all it shows it that you learned how USSF does things(which doesn't say much)

                          Board certification for a profession through schooling is 10x as hard. Why shouldn't we ask this from our soccer coaches?

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                            #14
                            Ignorant statements you look IGNORANT

                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            A good lot of A license coaches are a joke in this area and you don't need to have much coaching experience to get it. Id choose the coach who cares about my kid instead of one who took a 5 day class from coaches who state, coaching license doesn't make you a good coach and all it shows it that you learned how USSF does things(which doesn't say much)

                            Board certification for a profession through schooling is 10x as hard. Why shouldn't we ask this from our soccer coaches?
                            You have no clue the time in the profession required or the study and testing required to get an A license. I suggest you do some research because you are making a 100% fool out of yourself.

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                              #15
                              It's not easy to the the 'A' license

                              You must complete the National "D", "C" & "B" Course then you can apply to take the "A" course.

                              At the end of the day they have done it.

                              Go do it yourself and tell us how it easy and worthless it is.

                              BTW their are idiots with PHD's out in the world. But you can't take away the time and effort they put in to their Doctorate degree.

                              Also what qualifications/background/training/experience in soccer do you have that would even allow you to form an opinion about what a 'good' soccer coach is?

                              Do tell.

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