OPL and OYSA

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I know....there is already one like this.....

but I do have a good question....

With BSC and NEU committed to OYSA what does that leave for OPL? Can the OPL survive with FCPDX, THUSC and Lake Oswego Crossfire?

Forget which league is stronger, or who runs a better league....can OPL survive? can those clubs survive? I understand why my club wants to stay with OPL but can we survive? What does my club have in place if OPL falls? Because I'm confident my DOC doesn't have a plan...

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I know....there is already one like this.....

but I do have a good question....

With BSC and NEU committed to OYSA what does that leave for OPL? Can the OPL survive with FCPDX, THUSC and Lake Oswego Crossfire?

Forget which league is stronger, or who runs a better league....can OPL survive? can those clubs survive? I understand why my club wants to stay with OPL but can we survive? What does my club have in place if OPL falls? Because I'm confident my DOC doesn't have a plan...

Link to announcements from BSC and NEU??

Any club can survive if they have strong coaching, good facilities, and stable administration. Don't worry about FCP, THUSC or Crossfire.

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Link to announcements from BSC and NEU??

Any club can survive if they have strong coaching, good facilities, and stable administration. Don't worry about FCP, THUSC or Crossfire.

someone posted earlier that the boards of those clubs voted on it...we received an email from our coach yesterday that stated it also...here it is below.....copied and pasted

Subject: Timbers and Thorns-OYSA Leagues & Tournament Update
Reply-To: Mike Smith - Portland Timbers Youth Sporting Director

Hello Everyone,
Below is the most recent Timbers/Thorns League email that had been sent to the various clubs. However, as we wanted to expand the audience, we are sending once again. Hopefully you did not get this twice, but we are sorry for any inconvenience if you did. Thanks for your patience.
Mike Smith
************************************************** *****
Dear Presidents, Coaches & Parents,
Hopefully you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. I wanted to send you another positive weekly update from the Timbers & Thorns. What an incredible season and hats off to the Timbers and of course, our newly announced MLS Coach of the Year, Caleb Porter. Click here for the full article.
http://www.portlandtimbers.com/news/...mls-coach-year .
Well, we are getting closer to the Winter League registration deadline (December 9) and we have had many more clubs and teams signing up for our leagues, thank you! I am sure you heard the PA announcements and saw the ads on the Jumbotron screen for Timbers & Thorns leagues at the Western Conference final game.
Two more big competitive clubs have committed teams this week to the PTT Leagues. BSC Portland adds significant prowess to the league. They have had progressive expansion over the past couple of years into both Hood River and Newberg and are committing all their teams in the club to the Timbers & Thorns Leagues. In addition, Northeast United (NEU), another Portland Club who has done a great job with player development & carved their niche in NE Portland and beyond. They are committing the majority of their teams to the Timbers and Thorns Leagues.
For those of you that have teams in the Winter League, the deadline for registration is December 9. By Friday December 13, we will have the preliminary tentative bracket divisions and we will send these out via email for you to review. The final placements will be discussed and verified at the League Seeding meeting, which will be at the stadium at 1pm on Monday December 16. Mark the date in your calendars!
For those of you entering teams in the Spring League, we understand that many of your teams have to get additional player cards that the club did not budget for. To help ease this transition, we have decided that for every team from a club registered for the Timbers-OYSA Spring Leagues, we will return 10% of the league registration fee as a club credit. We hope that this helps teams and clubs make the best decisions for them. To qualify for this credit, we simply ask that you register your teams with OYSA on or before December 31, a week earlier than the regular Spring League deadline.
In other news, we are really enjoy discussing how best to move the game forward. In the coaching arena, we have now scheduled three National Coaching opportunities for coaches here in our territory for 2014. We will offer a US Soccer National C License, a US Soccer National Youth License as well as an NSCAA Advanced National Diploma around the MLS All-Star Game being hosted here in Portland. We also hope to offer another NSCAA course and also schedule an ‘A’ License renewal course here in Portland too and are awaiting confirmation from US Soccer on that.
To help develop our referees, we have also helped set up and market referee classes last week in Salem and Eugene. We will offer another opportunity to take the entry level referee class on the east side of Portland in the coming weeks. Please watch for more details on these additional classes at a later date. Clearly we need more referees to stay involved in the game and so please circulate this amusing video to the parents and coaches in your club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezZ2ZRfSsLY to provide a little perspective from the referee’s point of view.
Enjoy your week and get your teams signed up if you have not already. Please let us know how we can helping and supporting your youth club or association in any of the five key groups listed in the previous email.
Best wishes,
Mike
Mike Smith
Portland Timbers Youth Sporting Director
Portland Timbers
P: 503.553.5574
F: 503.553.5450
msmith@portlandtimbers.com
JELD-WEN Field | 1844 SW Morrison St | Portland, OR 97205

Season tickets are sold out. Sign up for the waiting list.
www.portlandtimbers.com

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someone posted earlier that the boards of those clubs voted on it...we received an email from our coach yesterday that stated it also...here it is below.....copied and pasted

Subject: Timbers and Thorns-OYSA Leagues & Tournament Update
Reply-To: Mike Smith - Portland Timbers Youth Sporting Director

Hello Everyone,
Below is the most recent Timbers/Thorns League email that had been sent to the various clubs. However, as we wanted to expand the audience, we are sending once again. Hopefully you did not get this twice, but we are sorry for any inconvenience if you did. Thanks for your patience.
Mike Smith
************************************************** *****
Dear Presidents, Coaches & Parents,
Hopefully you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. I wanted to send you another positive weekly update from the Timbers & Thorns. What an incredible season and hats off to the Timbers and of course, our newly announced MLS Coach of the Year, Caleb Porter. Click here for the full article.
http://www.portlandtimbers.com/news/...mls-coach-year .
Well, we are getting closer to the Winter League registration deadline (December 9) and we have had many more clubs and teams signing up for our leagues, thank you! I am sure you heard the PA announcements and saw the ads on the Jumbotron screen for Timbers & Thorns leagues at the Western Conference final game.
Two more big competitive clubs have committed teams this week to the PTT Leagues. BSC Portland adds significant prowess to the league. They have had progressive expansion over the past couple of years into both Hood River and Newberg and are committing all their teams in the club to the Timbers & Thorns Leagues. In addition, Northeast United (NEU), another Portland Club who has done a great job with player development & carved their niche in NE Portland and beyond. They are committing the majority of their teams to the Timbers and Thorns Leagues.
For those of you that have teams in the Winter League, the deadline for registration is December 9. By Friday December 13, we will have the preliminary tentative bracket divisions and we will send these out via email for you to review. The final placements will be discussed and verified at the League Seeding meeting, which will be at the stadium at 1pm on Monday December 16. Mark the date in your calendars!
For those of you entering teams in the Spring League, we understand that many of your teams have to get additional player cards that the club did not budget for. To help ease this transition, we have decided that for every team from a club registered for the Timbers-OYSA Spring Leagues, we will return 10% of the league registration fee as a club credit. We hope that this helps teams and clubs make the best decisions for them. To qualify for this credit, we simply ask that you register your teams with OYSA on or before December 31, a week earlier than the regular Spring League deadline.
In other news, we are really enjoy discussing how best to move the game forward. In the coaching arena, we have now scheduled three National Coaching opportunities for coaches here in our territory for 2014. We will offer a US Soccer National C License, a US Soccer National Youth License as well as an NSCAA Advanced National Diploma around the MLS All-Star Game being hosted here in Portland. We also hope to offer another NSCAA course and also schedule an ‘A’ License renewal course here in Portland too and are awaiting confirmation from US Soccer on that.
To help develop our referees, we have also helped set up and market referee classes last week in Salem and Eugene. We will offer another opportunity to take the entry level referee class on the east side of Portland in the coming weeks. Please watch for more details on these additional classes at a later date. Clearly we need more referees to stay involved in the game and so please circulate this amusing video to the parents and coaches in your club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezZ2ZRfSsLY to provide a little perspective from the referee’s point of view.
Enjoy your week and get your teams signed up if you have not already. Please let us know how we can helping and supporting your youth club or association in any of the five key groups listed in the previous email.
Best wishes,
Mike
Mike Smith
Portland Timbers Youth Sporting Director
Portland Timbers
P: 503.553.5574
F: 503.553.5450
msmith@portlandtimbers.com
JELD-WEN Field | 1844 SW Morrison St | Portland, OR 97205

Season tickets are sold out. Sign up for the waiting list.
www.portlandtimbers.com

Probably a good choice for BSC and NEU. They have a chance to be near the top in OYSA.

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Those 3 clubs will survive but the OPL will not. Those 3 will have to give in and join OYSA, or play each other over & over, or try to convince their teams (A, B & C) it's better to travel to Seattle, NorCal, etc. than to join OYSA and have basically the same ol' OPL league only it's called OYSA now. If your club isn't coming up with a Plan B, then you'd be smart to come up with one/some of your own.

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someone posted earlier that the boards of those clubs voted on it...we received an email from our coach yesterday that stated it also...here it is below.....copied and pasted

Subject: Timbers and Thorns-OYSA Leagues & Tournament Update
Reply-To: Mike Smith - Portland Timbers Youth Sporting Director

Hello Everyone,
Below is the most recent Timbers/Thorns League email that had been sent to the various clubs. However, as we wanted to expand the audience, we are sending once again. Hopefully you did not get this twice, but we are sorry for any inconvenience if you did. Thanks for your patience.
Mike Smith
************************************************** *****
Dear Presidents, Coaches & Parents,
Hopefully you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. I wanted to send you another positive weekly update from the Timbers & Thorns. What an incredible season and hats off to the Timbers and of course, our newly announced MLS Coach of the Year, Caleb Porter. Click here for the full article.
http://www.portlandtimbers.com/news/...mls-coach-year .
Well, we are getting closer to the Winter League registration deadline (December 9) and we have had many more clubs and teams signing up for our leagues, thank you! I am sure you heard the PA announcements and saw the ads on the Jumbotron screen for Timbers & Thorns leagues at the Western Conference final game.
Two more big competitive clubs have committed teams this week to the PTT Leagues. BSC Portland adds significant prowess to the league. They have had progressive expansion over the past couple of years into both Hood River and Newberg and are committing all their teams in the club to the Timbers & Thorns Leagues. In addition, Northeast United (NEU), another Portland Club who has done a great job with player development & carved their niche in NE Portland and beyond. They are committing the majority of their teams to the Timbers and Thorns Leagues.
For those of you that have teams in the Winter League, the deadline for registration is December 9. By Friday December 13, we will have the preliminary tentative bracket divisions and we will send these out via email for you to review. The final placements will be discussed and verified at the League Seeding meeting, which will be at the stadium at 1pm on Monday December 16. Mark the date in your calendars!
For those of you entering teams in the Spring League, we understand that many of your teams have to get additional player cards that the club did not budget for. To help ease this transition, we have decided that for every team from a club registered for the Timbers-OYSA Spring Leagues, we will return 10% of the league registration fee as a club credit. We hope that this helps teams and clubs make the best decisions for them. To qualify for this credit, we simply ask that you register your teams with OYSA on or before December 31, a week earlier than the regular Spring League deadline.
In other news, we are really enjoy discussing how best to move the game forward. In the coaching arena, we have now scheduled three National Coaching opportunities for coaches here in our territory for 2014. We will offer a US Soccer National C License, a US Soccer National Youth License as well as an NSCAA Advanced National Diploma around the MLS All-Star Game being hosted here in Portland. We also hope to offer another NSCAA course and also schedule an ‘A’ License renewal course here in Portland too and are awaiting confirmation from US Soccer on that.
To help develop our referees, we have also helped set up and market referee classes last week in Salem and Eugene. We will offer another opportunity to take the entry level referee class on the east side of Portland in the coming weeks. Please watch for more details on these additional classes at a later date. Clearly we need more referees to stay involved in the game and so please circulate this amusing video to the parents and coaches in your club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezZ2ZRfSsLY to provide a little perspective from the referee’s point of view.
Enjoy your week and get your teams signed up if you have not already. Please let us know how we can helping and supporting your youth club or association in any of the five key groups listed in the previous email.
Best wishes,
Mike
Mike Smith
Portland Timbers Youth Sporting Director
Portland Timbers
P: 503.553.5574
F: 503.553.5450
msmith@portlandtimbers.com
JELD-WEN Field | 1844 SW Morrison St | Portland, OR 97205

Season tickets are sold out. Sign up for the waiting list.
www.portlandtimbers.com

In all of my years in OPL I never received an email like this...an actual plan??? uh, OPL never had a plan out there.....they were about filling their pocketbooks and not advancing youth soccer.....$600K in the bank, no discounts for ODP? ***?
The only email I would receive would be the one just before fall league starts saying to clean up your garbage on the fields and no dogs .....

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Those 3 clubs will survive but the OPL will not. Those 3 will have to give in and join OYSA, or play each other over & over, or try to convince their teams (A, B & C) it's better to travel to Seattle, NorCal, etc. than to join OYSA and have basically the same ol' OPL league only it's called OYSA now. If your club isn't coming up with a Plan B, then you'd be smart to come up with one/some of your own.

I agree....OPL is dead.....the writing is on the wall....I sure hope our club decides to go OYSA route....I need to look at other options...I have two kids rolling with a third one year away...it may be time to start hunting....

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Those 3 clubs will survive but the OPL will not. Those 3 will have to give in and join OYSA, or play each other over & over, or try to convince their teams (A, B & C) it's better to travel to Seattle, NorCal, etc. than to join OYSA and have basically the same ol' OPL league only it's called OYSA now. If your club isn't coming up with a Plan B, then you'd be smart to come up with one/some of your own.

THUSC AND FCP.....are you listening?

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THUSC AND FCP.....are you listening?

Why do the TA clubs so badly want the OPL clubs to join them? Aren't non-Timbers clubs irrelevant or, at best, second tier in the new Timbers hierarchy? Or do you actually realize that a league without those clubs is second tier itself?

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Why do the TA clubs so badly want the OPL clubs to join them? Aren't non-Timbers clubs irrelevant or, at best, second tier in the new Timbers hierarchy? Or do you actually realize that a league without those clubs is second tier itself?

Take a deep breath...this may come as a shock to you, not everyone else has the same myopic view you do! OPL clubs and specifically the three remaining clubs have spent so much time on this and other forums trying to sell their party propaganda that somehow they are the better clubs, that there is no competition outside of their doors, and quite frankly that is BS.

The folks I have interacted with at OYSA want a state where soccer is united.

The idea of a timbers hierarchy and everyone else being second tier is again created by the OPL defenders, and it is interesting to note if there has ever been a hierarchy that shut others clubs on the outside, it was the one created by OPL.

It is time for the arrogance of OPL to be driven out of Oregon soccer. We are all stronger as a state if we all play under one roof.

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Take a deep breath...this may come as a shock to you, not everyone else has the same myopic view you do! OPL clubs and specifically the three remaining clubs have spent so much time on this and other forums trying to sell their party propaganda that somehow they are the better clubs, that there is no competition outside of their doors, and quite frankly that is BS.

The folks I have interacted with at OYSA want a state where soccer is united.

The idea of a timbers hierarchy and everyone else being second tier is again created by the OPL defenders, and it is interesting to note if there has ever been a hierarchy that shut others clubs on the outside, it was the one created by OPL.

It is time for the arrogance of OPL to be driven out of Oregon soccer. We are all stronger as a state if we all play under one roof.

Put down the bong fool and take a look at this blog. Thread after thread is about how the OPL is going to fold.

Arrogance? GW, EST and WST were instrumental in creating the OPL! They made it what it is today. Now these same clubs and people are yanking soccer in a different direction. Who are the arrogant ones?

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The fact is with BSC and NEU joining OYSA they don't even need Thusc, PDX, and Crossfire to be a competitive league. Those clubs would help add competition, but they do not need them. Its a sad truth.

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The fact is with BSC and NEU joining OYSA they don't even need Thusc, PDX, and Crossfire to be a competitive league. Those clubs would help add competition, but they do not need them. Its a sad truth.

Did BSC or NEU have any teams in the NPL? How can you say this with a straight face?

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Did BSC or NEU have any teams in the NPL? How can you say this with a straight face?

scrimmaging with THUSC FC & CROSSFIRE is still more competition.

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The fact is with BSC and NEU joining OYSA they don't even need Thusc, PDX, and Crossfire to be a competitive league. Those clubs would help add competition, but they do not need them. Its a sad truth.

Especially when the 2 or 3 premier level players at BSC and NEU migrate to the OPL clubs at tryouts. That will bring their teams down to Timbers level and even out the competition in OYSA.